Re: [AFMUG] Need new billing solution asap!!!

2015-12-03 Thread TJ Trout
Sterling, correct me if I'm wrong, but it's Plat about the most difficult system to setup, of all billing systems available on the wisp market? =) On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 10:55 PM, Brett A Mansfield < li...@silverlakeinternet.com> wrote: > For me it's more about the time it takes to do it. There a

Re: [AFMUG] Need new billing solution asap!!!

2015-12-03 Thread Brett A Mansfield
For me it's more about the time it takes to do it. There are aspects of the install I cannot figure out. I asked them for deployment support and I was told they don't offer it. Another guy told me he'd do it for more than $2k. My current system just double, triple, or quadruple charged my autop

Re: [AFMUG] Need new billing solution asap!!!

2015-12-03 Thread TJ Trout
Only quickly and easily if you are a experienced IT wizard, if your just a dumb RF hand it's a insurmountable task On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 10:41 PM, Sterling Jacobson wrote: > Platypus can be deployed easily and quickly. > > Just pay them for the services to set it up etc. > > They don't cost muc

Re: [AFMUG] Need new billing solution asap!!!

2015-12-03 Thread Sterling Jacobson
Platypus can be deployed easily and quickly. Just pay them for the services to set it up etc. They don't cost much to do that. A few hundred dollars and you are completely up and running. Doesn't cost too much for licensing monthly either. -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun.

[AFMUG] Need new billing solution asap!!!

2015-12-03 Thread Brett A Mansfield
I'm looking for a good billing solution that is cheap and I can have up in running immediately. I've had far too many issues with my current billing system. I need something turnkey and cheap. My WISP is a fairly small operation. I am not willing to pay per sub, especially if there is a minim

Re: [AFMUG] AF2 question

2015-12-03 Thread Jeremy
It would allow back-to-back frequency reuse. On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 8:28 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote: > What does the GPS do for a 2.4GHz point to point ? I have not played with > OS so I have no idea. Thanks in advance. >

Re: [AFMUG] AF2 question

2015-12-03 Thread Mathew Howard
It syncs them if you have multiple links. otherwise, I think about all it does is set the clock and location. On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 9:28 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote: > What does the GPS do for a 2.4GHz point to point ? I have not played with > OS so I have no idea. Thanks in advance. >

[AFMUG] AF2 question

2015-12-03 Thread Jaime Solorza
What does the GPS do for a 2.4GHz point to point ? I have not played with OS so I have no idea. Thanks in advance.

Re: [AFMUG] Can't legally jam phones? Require everyone to put them in a faraday cage with a lock

2015-12-03 Thread Jaime Solorza
When Mexican President visited a penitentiary earlier this year in Cd. Juarez, the jammers they used knocked service out on US side for two hours... The site was about 2 miles from Border!!! Chapelle should hire Mexico secret service to jam phones at show...lol On Dec 3, 2015 7:53 PM, "Jason McKe

Re: [AFMUG] Can't legally jam phones? Require everyone to put them in a faraday cage with a lock

2015-12-03 Thread Jason McKemie
I'm not sure how they're going to get people to do this. You could just claim that you don't have a phone on you. On Wed, Dec 2, 2015 at 7:14 PM, Eric Kuhnke wrote: > http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/how-dave-chappelle-is-creating-844886 > > > http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2014/10/i-let-y

Re: [AFMUG] what to do with 2.4 fsk?

2015-12-03 Thread Jaime Solorza
Very Taon of you On Dec 3, 2015 11:06 AM, "Sam Lambie" wrote: > I just donated 100 5.2 FSK Boards to a local artist to make a sculpture > with them. > > On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 9:38 AM, Sean Heskett wrote: > >> Start a wisp in Costa Rica >> >> ;-) >> >> >> On Wednesday, December 2, 2015, That One

Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa Lite

2015-12-03 Thread Jaime Solorza
Thanks On Dec 3, 2015 6:45 PM, "Jaime Fink" wrote: > Pretty pic Jaime! > > Cheers, > > The other Jaime > > On Dec 3, 2015, at 5:40 PM, Jaime Solorza > wrote: > > My first Mimosa install. Will be a two mile shot. All masts, clamps and > white tape provided by client. Once aligned I fed excess

Re: [AFMUG] Canopy 450i SM POE

2015-12-03 Thread Sean Heskett
Cool, thanks for the help George! I'm gonna give the planet one a try, I'll report back with the results. Hopefully cambium will chime in with a solution too. -Sean On Thursday, December 3, 2015, George Skorup wrote: > Anything 802.3at compliant should work just fine. Switch port, injector, >

Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa Lite

2015-12-03 Thread Jaime Fink
Pretty pic Jaime! Cheers, The other Jaime On Dec 3, 2015, at 5:40 PM, Jaime Solorza mailto:losguyswirel...@gmail.com>> wrote: My first Mimosa install. Will be a two mile shot. All masts, clamps and white tape provided by client. Once aligned I fed excess cable back and used ties plus th

Re: [AFMUG] Force 110

2015-12-03 Thread George Skorup
Yes. You cannot have single quotes in the device name. I tried that once and the radio acted really stupid. None of the config would display. For example, I changed it from "Bob's House" to "Bobs House" and it was sane again. Almost the same thing on Canopy, just a little bit smarter about it.

Re: [AFMUG] Force 110

2015-12-03 Thread Christopher Gray
I sometimes have this sort of experience if I just upgraded firmware and have the new [or old] files cached. I do a shift+f5 refresh before configuring if things look fishy. On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 7:31 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: > Have any of you seen where most of a Force 110's setting fields are

Re: [AFMUG] Force 110

2015-12-03 Thread Mike Hammett
It was something I had intentionally put into a field that the ePMP firmware didn't seem to like, so was persistent until a backup, edit, restore. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com - Orig

Re: [AFMUG] Force 110

2015-12-03 Thread Josh Luthman
Binary backups are your friend... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 8:29 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: > I think it was related to a single quote ' in some of the fields of the > config. I dumped the config, edited t

Re: [AFMUG] Force 110

2015-12-03 Thread Mike Hammett
I think it was related to a single quote ' in some of the fields of the config. I dumped the config, edited them out and now it seems to be fine. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com - Origi

Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA Members] Canopy 450i SM POE

2015-12-03 Thread George Skorup
Anything 802.3at compliant should work just fine. Switch port, injector, whatever. We've installed some Exalt ExtendAir G2 radios which are also 3at compliant. Nice low power consumption. The OEM injector is a Phihong POE36U-1AT-R. I'm not sure if the -R means reverse polarity though. Could b

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP SNR on SM

2015-12-03 Thread Josh Luthman
Awesome, thanks! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 8:13 PM, George Skorup wrote: > I've found it to be fairly accurate. Not like UBNT's -95 noise floor. > That's totally worthless. > > > On 12/3/2015 7:09 PM, J

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP SNR on SM

2015-12-03 Thread George Skorup
I've found it to be fairly accurate. Not like UBNT's -95 noise floor. That's totally worthless. On 12/3/2015 7:09 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: Does anyone know if the SNR is worthwhile information or is it based off 802.11 noise? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St

[AFMUG] ePMP SNR on SM

2015-12-03 Thread Josh Luthman
Does anyone know if the SNR is worthwhile information or is it based off 802.11 noise? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373

Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA Members] Canopy 450i SM POE

2015-12-03 Thread Sean Heskett
so based on what George said this will work? http://planetechusa.com/ieee-802-3at-gigabit-high-power-over-ethernet-injector-mid-span.html On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 5:15 PM, George Skorup wrote: > It's 3at on the input and 3af on the secondary port output. You might be > able to get away with a 3af

Re: [AFMUG] Force 110

2015-12-03 Thread Josh Luthman
Never had a problem, but keep in mind I use one PC to update from shipped firmware to latest and then slap on a template. Then I use the laptop in the truck to do everything else on site. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Dec

Re: [AFMUG] UBNT - 3 sectors in one - is it out yet?

2015-12-03 Thread Gino Villarini
the specs are in the Rocket Prism AP datasheet On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 5:02 PM, Paul McCall wrote: > Looking to break some 120 sector coverage APs into smaller chunks, and > recall this looked like a good option. > > > > Don’t see it on their website… probably not a good sign. Anybody have a > s

Re: [AFMUG] Spam:*******, Re: Cybermonday

2015-12-03 Thread Gino Villarini
ye, you have to be ready for it, we have the process mostly automated using formstack + cudasign + zappier to bring it all together (backend wise) On Wed, Dec 2, 2015 at 8:58 AM, Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc < t...@franklinisp.net> wrote: > Gino, > > > > We ran ads on Facebook as we

Re: [AFMUG] Force 110

2015-12-03 Thread Mathew Howard
I saw something like that happen, but it went back to normal after I reloaded the interface... or maybe I had to reboot it, I don't remember for sure. On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 6:31 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: > Have any of you seen where most of a Force 110's setting fields are blank > when you login

[AFMUG] Force 110

2015-12-03 Thread Mike Hammett
Have any of you seen where most of a Force 110's setting fields are blank when you login and when you go to save it after entering everything, it wants to reboot to the 192.168.0.2 address? That's clearly not what I have entered, but that's what it wants to use. - Mike Hammett Intelli

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP: Integrated Radio VS Force 180

2015-12-03 Thread George Skorup
It's 25dBi. If you need a couple more dB to make the link work, walk away, or use a connectorized and a 2' dish which of course many customers won't want. On 12/3/2015 5:37 PM, Paul McCall wrote: Better dB than the KP dish? *From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman

Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA Members] Canopy 450i SM POE

2015-12-03 Thread George Skorup
It's 3at on the input and 3af on the secondary port output. You might be able to get away with a 3af supply for the input which is 15W if you're not using the second output, but then again, the 450i 5GHz SM itself uses >14W, IIRC, so it'd be close. On 12/3/2015 3:59 PM, Sean Heskett wrote: hi

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP: Integrated Radio VS Force 180

2015-12-03 Thread Paul McCall
Better dB than the KP dish? From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2015 6:36 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP: Integrated Radio VS Force 180 Wow seriously you need to pick one up...or just pick up Force200. Josh Luthman Office:

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP: Integrated Radio VS Force 180

2015-12-03 Thread Josh Luthman
Wow seriously you need to pick one up...or just pick up Force200. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 6:33 PM, Paul McCall wrote: > nope > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthma

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP: Integrated Radio VS Force 180

2015-12-03 Thread Paul McCall
nope From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2015 5:59 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP: Integrated Radio VS Force 180 You haven't used any Force110, Paul? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Sui

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP: Integrated Radio VS Force 180

2015-12-03 Thread Josh Luthman
You haven't used any Force110, Paul? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 5:43 PM, Paul McCall wrote: > Hmmm… my only point of reference is the original Force product which was > definitely not easy. > > > > Can y

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP: Integrated Radio VS Force 180

2015-12-03 Thread Chuck McCown
Possibly. From: Paul McCall Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2015 3:43 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP: Integrated Radio VS Force 180 Hmmm… my only point of reference is the original Force product which was definitely not easy. Can you sneak a couple more dB out of a Beehive Supe

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP: Integrated Radio VS Force 180

2015-12-03 Thread Paul McCall
Hmmm… my only point of reference is the original Force product which was definitely not easy. Can you sneak a couple more dB out of a Beehive Superdish is a good question From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2015 5:23 PM To: af@afmug.com S

Re: [AFMUG] Solar site bill of materials

2015-12-03 Thread Chuck McCown
$150 per load watt From: TJ Trout Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2015 3:35 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Solar site bill of materials Does anyone have an example bill of materials for a small solar site with like three radios?

[AFMUG] Solar site bill of materials

2015-12-03 Thread TJ Trout
Does anyone have an example bill of materials for a small solar site with like three radios?

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP: Integrated Radio VS Force 180

2015-12-03 Thread Chuck McCown
No need to say sorry, I agree. That is the way I would do it too. From: Josh Luthman Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2015 3:21 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP: Integrated Radio VS Force 180 Force 200. Way easier than reflectors. Sorry :( Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct:

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP: Integrated Radio VS Force 180

2015-12-03 Thread Mathew Howard
Well, I wouldn't buy it... using a Force 200 (or 110) is cheaper, easier and smaller than using a separate reflector, so it just doesn't make sense to me. On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 4:14 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: > Yes, and the real question is, would someone buy my product or the Cambium > 200? Is i

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP: Integrated Radio VS Force 180

2015-12-03 Thread Josh Luthman
Force 200. Way easier than reflectors. Sorry :( Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Dec 3, 2015 5:14 PM, "Chuck McCown" wrote: > Yes, and the real question is, would someone buy my product or the Cambium > 200? Is it worth doing. >

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP: Integrated Radio VS Force 180

2015-12-03 Thread Chuck McCown
Yes, and the real question is, would someone buy my product or the Cambium 200? Is it worth doing. From: Mathew Howard Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2015 3:03 PM To: af Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP: Integrated Radio VS Force 180 You would have to make a completely new holder, wouldn't you? On T

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP: Integrated Radio VS Force 180

2015-12-03 Thread Mathew Howard
You would have to make a completely new holder, wouldn't you? On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 4:01 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: > I can make it work, but I have yet to test with one. > > *From:* Jeff Broadwick - Lists > *Sent:* Thursday, December 03, 2015 2:26 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG]

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP: Integrated Radio VS Force 180

2015-12-03 Thread Chuck McCown
I can make it work, but I have yet to test with one. From: Jeff Broadwick - Lists Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2015 2:26 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP: Integrated Radio VS Force 180 No, it mounts sideways (thus the 180 name). Likely won't work with existing reflectors. Jeff

Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA Members] Canopy 450i SM POE

2015-12-03 Thread Sean Heskett
hi ken, this is for the 5Ghz 450i integrated SM regular canopy POE doesn't work, nor does epmp. -sean On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 2:42 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: > Which specific variant of 450i SM? > > I’m pretty sure I read that at least for the 900 MHz version, it could be > powered from a standard

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP: Integrated Radio VS Force 180

2015-12-03 Thread Josh Luthman
It's greater gain, definitely more range. Also a more vertical spread and less horizontal, which means you'll pick up less noise across the horizon (and more vertically but not many towers are stacked :) Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 4537

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP: Integrated Radio VS Force 180

2015-12-03 Thread Jeff Broadwick - Lists
Hey, it worked in my head! :-) Jeff Broadwick ConVergence Technologies, Inc. 312-205-2519 Office 574-220-7826 Cell jbroadw...@converge-tech.com > On Dec 3, 2015, at 4:27 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: > > Dude 180* would mean it's upside down, not sideways! LOL! > > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP: Integrated Radio VS Force 180

2015-12-03 Thread Jeff Broadwick - Lists
You are supposed to get greater distance with the 180 than the past integrated SM because of their new floating antenna design. Has anyone tested that out? Jeff Broadwick ConVergence Technologies, Inc. 312-205-2519 Office 574-220-7826 Cell jbroadw...@converge-tech.com > On Dec 3, 2015, at 4:37

Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA Members] Canopy 450i SM POE

2015-12-03 Thread Mathew Howard
The 900mhz 450i SM does use a standard Canopy PoE, but I'm pretty sure that isn't true of the 5ghz SM. On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 3:42 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: > Which specific variant of 450i SM? > > I’m pretty sure I read that at least for the 900 MHz version, it could be > powered from a standard 29

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP: Integrated Radio VS Force 180

2015-12-03 Thread Jeff Broadwick - Lists
Supposed to be available some time after Dec. 15. Jeff Broadwick ConVergence Technologies, Inc. 312-205-2519 Office 574-220-7826 Cell jbroadw...@converge-tech.com > On Dec 3, 2015, at 4:37 PM, Mathew Howard wrote: > > Why not just use Force 110s instead of reflectors? aside from the fact that

Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA Members] Canopy 450i SM POE

2015-12-03 Thread Ken Hohhof
Which specific variant of 450i SM? I’m pretty sure I read that at least for the 900 MHz version, it could be powered from a standard 29.5V Canopy POE. Which obviously is important if you are swapping out existing FSK customers. This may not be true for the 5 GHz variant, I don’t know. Obvious

Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA Members] Canopy 450i SM POE

2015-12-03 Thread Josh Luthman
Use an 802.3at (maybe af) POE? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 4:32 PM, Sean Heskett wrote: > seriously?!?! > > the only way to power an new 450i SM is with a $100 POE!!! that's > ridiculous especially when

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP: Integrated Radio VS Force 180

2015-12-03 Thread Mathew Howard
Why not just use Force 110s instead of reflectors? aside from the fact that you can't actually get 110s right now... On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 3:32 PM, Paul McCall wrote: > Oh wow…maybe I am missing something. > > > > If the KP dish with standard SM does SM dB + 9 dB, and the Force 180 (no > re

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP: Integrated Radio VS Force 180

2015-12-03 Thread Josh Luthman
I think they're expecting you to use Force180 for nearby customers and Force200 for farther customers... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 4:32 PM, Paul McCall wrote: > Oh wow…maybe I am missing something.

Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA Members] Canopy 450i SM POE

2015-12-03 Thread Mathew Howard
That'd be the $35 option that Mark listed... which apparently isn't available yet. On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 3:32 PM, Sean Heskett wrote: > seriously?!?! > > the only way to power an new 450i SM is with a $100 POE!!! that's > ridiculous especially when an ePMP or UBNT CPE is less than $100 TOTAL!!

Re: [AFMUG] Spam:******, cambium 3.6 450

2015-12-03 Thread Ty @ Internet Communications Inc
What's wrong with them? We are doing lots of deployments. Price? Tyson Burris, President Internet Communications Inc. 739 Commerce Dr. Franklin, IN 46131 317-738-0320 Daytime # 317-412-1540 Cell/Direct # Online: www.surfici.net Forgive the brevity, the typos and my fat fingers! > On

Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA Members] Canopy 450i SM POE

2015-12-03 Thread Sean Heskett
seriously?!?! the only way to power an new 450i SM is with a $100 POE!!! that's ridiculous especially when an ePMP or UBNT CPE is less than $100 TOTAL!!! come on cambium...there has to be a better/cheeper option. -sean On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 2:24 PM, Super WISP wrote: > Here are the power s

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP: Integrated Radio VS Force 180

2015-12-03 Thread Paul McCall
Oh wow…maybe I am missing something. If the KP dish with standard SM does SM dB + 9 dB, and the Force 180 (no reflector) does standard SM + 3db, did we just lose 6dB of gain (NET) if we can’t use reflectors? Paul From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Thursd

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP: Integrated Radio VS Force 180

2015-12-03 Thread Josh Luthman
Dude 180* would mean it's upside down, not sideways! LOL! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 4:26 PM, Jeff Broadwick - Lists wrote: > No, it mounts sideways (thus the 180 name). Likely won't work with > existin

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP: Integrated Radio VS Force 180

2015-12-03 Thread Jeff Broadwick - Lists
No, it mounts sideways (thus the 180 name). Likely won't work with existing reflectors. Jeff Broadwick ConVergence Technologies, Inc. 312-205-2519 Office 574-220-7826 Cell jbroadw...@converge-tech.com > On Dec 3, 2015, at 4:24 PM, Paul McCall wrote: > > Does the Force180 have the same form fa

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP: Integrated Radio VS Force 180

2015-12-03 Thread Josh Luthman
It's turned 90*. I don't know if KP tested the reflector with it, but I would safely assume it won't illuminate as well as previous. It uses the same holder but will also use a new one that doesn't suck. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP: Integrated Radio VS Force 180

2015-12-03 Thread Mathew Howard
No, it's roughly the same size, but it's rotated 90 degrees. I doubt it would work with any of the existing reflectors. On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 3:24 PM, Paul McCall wrote: > Does the Force180 have the same form factor as the previous integrated > unit? Does it use the same KP performance reflec

Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA Members] Canopy 450i SM POE

2015-12-03 Thread Super WISP
Here are the power supply options. Pricing is MSRP. N65L001B C65L002B N00L034A $80 $380 $35 56 VDC, 60W supply Enhanced AC+DC Power Injector 56 VDC, 30W supply (available soon) N65L003A N65L004AN65L005A $20 $20 $20 US Line Cord Fig 8 (IEC-60320 Type C7) UK Line Cord

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP: Integrated Radio VS Force 180

2015-12-03 Thread Paul McCall
Does the Force180 have the same form factor as the previous integrated unit? Does it use the same KP performance reflector? Same holder, etc.? From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of David Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2015 5:01 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP: Integr

Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA Members] Canopy 450i SM POE

2015-12-03 Thread Mathew Howard
Doesn't the 5ghz 450i need 48v? They're supposed to be 802.3at compliant, so there's gotta be something cheaper than $80 out there. On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 3:12 PM, Sean Heskett wrote: > thats what i thought! > > It didn't power the SM that i tried it on > > On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 2:09 PM, Josh L

Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA Members] Canopy 450i SM POE

2015-12-03 Thread Sean Heskett
thats what i thought! It didn't power the SM that i tried it on On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 2:09 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: > Can't you use the Epmp POE? > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > On Dec 3, 2015 4:06 PM, "Sean Heskett"

[AFMUG] cambium 3.6 450

2015-12-03 Thread Justin Aldridge
Anyone interested in purchasing access points and subscriber modules.

Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA Members] Canopy 450i SM POE

2015-12-03 Thread Josh Luthman
Can't you use the Epmp POE? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Dec 3, 2015 4:06 PM, "Sean Heskett" wrote: > what is the part number for the POE to use with the SMs? > > our vendor is telling us to use the PTP650 POE adapter (which wo

[AFMUG] Canopy 450i SM POE

2015-12-03 Thread Sean Heskett
what is the part number for the POE to use with the SMs? our vendor is telling us to use the PTP650 POE adapter (which works) but it's (MSRP) $80 + $20 for the USA AC cord. something ain't right!?!? this is what were were told to use: N65L001B PTP650 Spare AC Power Injector (Old P/N N65L

[AFMUG] UBNT - 3 sectors in one - is it out yet?

2015-12-03 Thread Paul McCall
Looking to break some 120 sector coverage APs into smaller chunks, and recall this looked like a good option. Don't see it on their website... probably not a good sign. Anybody have a spec sheet at least? Paul Paul McCall, Pres. PDMNet / Florida Broadband 658 Old Dixie Highway Vero Beach, FL

Re: [AFMUG] 450i and Syncinjectors

2015-12-03 Thread Forrest Christian (List Account)
I didn't because it varies depending on the exact type of cable, install methods, etc etc etc. On Dec 3, 2015 11:02 AM, "Josh Luthman" wrote: > If you have longer cable runs you want rev I. I don't think Forrest > specified the lengths... > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552

Re: [AFMUG] 450i and Syncinjectors

2015-12-03 Thread Forrest Christian (List Account)
Yes, separate injectors for both would be needed. I hate the meanwell SD series as it often shuts down when briefly overloaded, such as during power on inrush loads, use the rsd instead. On Dec 3, 2015 10:46 AM, "Sam Lambie" wrote: > I assume that I will need a separate SyncInjector for the 4

Re: [AFMUG] 450i and Syncinjectors

2015-12-03 Thread Forrest Christian (List Account)
All revision h and later syncinjectors will handle 48V which is needed for the 450i. At 48V and longer cable runs, there is an issue where the 450i gets two pulses each second from the syncinjector due to an interaction between the nice, sharp sync pulse edge, a long cable, and the radio. This in

Re: [AFMUG] 200 SSD

2015-12-03 Thread Adam Moffett
Thanks! On 12/3/2015 1:19 PM, Matt Mangriotis wrote: The current model numbers are 200SSH, and 600SSH. We are still producing both of these products. (The “H” became a thing in 2011, when we split from the mothership) Matt *From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Ken Hohhof *S

Re: [AFMUG] 450i and Syncinjectors

2015-12-03 Thread Sam Lambie
Hijacker On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 11:59 AM, George Skorup wrote: > All 450i radios (except the 900SM) is 802.3at compliant. Then I guess the > question is, will the CTM port do sync-over-power in 3at mode? My guess is > no. You'll have to do the pin swapping that Cambium recommends for the > CMM4

Re: [AFMUG] 450i and Syncinjectors

2015-12-03 Thread George Skorup
All 450i radios (except the 900SM) is 802.3at compliant. Then I guess the question is, will the CTM port do sync-over-power in 3at mode? My guess is no. You'll have to do the pin swapping that Cambium recommends for the CMM4. Then tell your CTM that the port is 320/430 mode. But you won't get g

Re: [AFMUG] Expeto

2015-12-03 Thread Patrick Leary
It is not related in any way to Sprint. That assumption shows what I mean about the misleading emails – they make it appear they are part of other efforts/alliances/partnerships, etc. with companies they mention in their blasts, such as Sprint and Telrad. Patrick Leary, Telrad 727-501-3735 Fro

Re: [AFMUG] 450i and Syncinjectors

2015-12-03 Thread Sam Lambie
Yes, a Meanwell PSU works just fine. Can't wait to hang the AP On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 11:14 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote: > I’m thinking more along the lines that my first test site for 450i 900 MHz > will be at a tower where I already have a CTM-2 master + slave and if it > works out it will be replaci

Re: [AFMUG] 200 SSD

2015-12-03 Thread Matt Mangriotis
The current model numbers are 200SSH, and 600SSH. We are still producing both of these products. (The “H” became a thing in 2011, when we split from the mothership) Matt From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2015 11:50 AM To: af@afmug.com Su

Re: [AFMUG] 450i and Syncinjectors

2015-12-03 Thread Ken Hohhof
I’m thinking more along the lines that my first test site for 450i 900 MHz will be at a tower where I already have a CTM-2 master + slave and if it works out it will be replacing a 900 FSK sector that is currently powered from the CTM-2. So I was kind of hijacking your thread. From: Sam Lambie

Re: [AFMUG] 450i and Syncinjectors

2015-12-03 Thread Sam Lambie
Would be nice if that did sync on all modes. But I already have a fair amount of PF gear at this site. And I like it. On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 11:06 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote: > H, what about a Last Mile Gear CTM-2? > > It has 5 different modes. A is for 29.5V Cambium, B is for 56V Cambium > 320 a

Re: [AFMUG] 450i and Syncinjectors

2015-12-03 Thread Ken Hohhof
H, what about a Last Mile Gear CTM-2? It has 5 different modes. A is for 29.5V Cambium, B is for 56V Cambium 320 and 430, and then there are 3 modes C/D/E for various forms of 802.3at. Should I assume one of these will power a 450i AP? What about timing, the documentation is not clear wh

Re: [AFMUG] what to do with 2.4 fsk?

2015-12-03 Thread Sam Lambie
I just donated 100 5.2 FSK Boards to a local artist to make a sculpture with them. On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 9:38 AM, Sean Heskett wrote: > Start a wisp in Costa Rica > > ;-) > > > On Wednesday, December 2, 2015, That One Guy /sarcasm < > thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> 320, 450 3ghz, or epm

Re: [AFMUG] 450i and Syncinjectors

2015-12-03 Thread Sam Lambie
I am at less than 100' On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 11:02 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: > If you have longer cable runs you want rev I. I don't think Forrest > specified the lengths... > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > On Dec 3,

Re: [AFMUG] 450i and Syncinjectors

2015-12-03 Thread Sam Lambie
Forrest, do you have any input on the cable lengths? On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 11:04 AM, Sam Lambie wrote: > I am at less than 100' > > > On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 11:02 AM, Josh Luthman > wrote: > >> If you have longer cable runs you want rev I. I don't think Forrest >> specified the lengths... >>

Re: [AFMUG] 450i and Syncinjectors

2015-12-03 Thread Josh Luthman
If you have longer cable runs you want rev I. I don't think Forrest specified the lengths... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Dec 3, 2015 12:42 PM, "Josh Baird" wrote: > The SyncInjector can take up to ~57V (ignore the label). Yo

Re: [AFMUG] 200 SSD

2015-12-03 Thread Ken Hohhof
FWIW, I have an overstock list from Mark Chamerlik at WAV showing 3 in stock in Canada. From: Jeff Broadwick - Lists Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2015 11:35 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 200 SSD The only SSD part on their price list is the 600SSD. Jeff Broadwick ConVergence Techn

Re: [AFMUG] 450i and Syncinjectors

2015-12-03 Thread Sam Lambie
I assume that I will need a separate SyncInjector for the 450i then as I have 450's in the mix as well. Would a Meanwell SD 120-48 PSU Work? On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 10:42 AM, Josh Baird wrote: > The SyncInjector can take up to ~57V (ignore the label). You will need to > power it with 48V to powe

Re: [AFMUG] 450i and Syncinjectors

2015-12-03 Thread Josh Baird
The SyncInjector can take up to ~57V (ignore the label). You will need to power it with 48V to power the 450i. There are problems with cable distance on SyncInjectors prior to H1 (I beileve). Depending on your cable distance, you may or may not see an issue from what I understand. Josh On Thu,

[AFMUG] 450i and Syncinjectors

2015-12-03 Thread Sam Lambie
After looking at some of the earlier posts, I can't really determine if I can use the 450i AP on a gigabit syncinjector. It appears that it want a 48vdc power supply. What is the best way to set this up? Or will it actually accept the 29 vdc power supply on the SyncInjector? Sam -- -- *Sam Lamb

Re: [AFMUG] 200 SSD

2015-12-03 Thread Jeff Broadwick - Lists
The only SSD part on their price list is the 600SSD. Jeff Broadwick ConVergence Technologies, Inc. 312-205-2519 Office 574-220-7826 Cell jbroadw...@converge-tech.com > On Dec 3, 2015, at 12:23 PM, Adam Moffett wrote: > > Is the Cambium 200SSD (DC Surge Protector for CMM4) still a thing? > > We

[AFMUG] 200 SSD

2015-12-03 Thread Adam Moffett
Is the Cambium 200SSD (DC Surge Protector for CMM4) still a thing? We had a vendor tell us they don't exist anymore.

Re: [AFMUG] what to do with 2.4 fsk?

2015-12-03 Thread Sean Heskett
Start a wisp in Costa Rica ;-) On Wednesday, December 2, 2015, That One Guy /sarcasm < thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote: > 320, 450 3ghz, or epmp 5ghz depending on the site > > Ive thought about moving it to small sites for 2 mile coverage for a few > customers, but the epmp 5ghz has the same p

Re: [AFMUG] PTP800 11GHz bands

2015-12-03 Thread Jon Langeler
You can but you already know you have to license each link. If your the only one around it would be real easy to maximize how many links are off a tower. Jon Langeler Michwave Technologies, Inc. > On Dec 3, 2015, at 9:58 AM, Chuck McCown wrote: > > I wonder what the chance of getting caught

Re: [AFMUG] PTP800 11GHz bands

2015-12-03 Thread Jaime Solorza
Just because you have Altairs as door stops? Ducking On Dec 3, 2015 7:59 AM, "Chuck McCown" wrote: > I wonder what the chance of getting caught reusing your own 18 Ghz pair > multiple times within a 5 mile radius would be not that anyone would > ever actually try that > > -Original

Re: [AFMUG] Win 10

2015-12-03 Thread Bill Prince
WUPN has a switch to control whether updates are shared locally on your LAN (probably a good thing), or whether they are shared over the WAN (probably not so good a thing). bp On 12/3/2015 7:15 AM, Stefan Englhardt wrote: Dont forget to disable the Windows Update Peer Networking. If not MS

Re: [AFMUG] Win 10

2015-12-03 Thread Ken Hohhof
> Windows Update Peer Networking Is that abbreviated WUPN? As in if you disable it, you’ll get a WUPN? From: Stefan Englhardt Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2015 9:15 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Win 10 They have done a lot of optimizations. There is a tool included that shows s

Re: [AFMUG] Win 10

2015-12-03 Thread Josh Reynolds
Which can be a good thing, as it allows a house or business to actually download system updates from a device on the LAN that already has them, potentially saving large amounts of bandwidth On Dec 3, 2015 9:15 AM, "Stefan Englhardt" wrote: > They have done a lot of optimizations. > > > > There is

Re: [AFMUG] Win 10

2015-12-03 Thread Stefan Englhardt
They have done a lot of optimizations. There is a tool included that shows starttimes of services at systemstart and offer to disable automatic start. Win 8/10 use less memory than Win7. So it is an improvement for sure. Dont forget to disable the Windows Update Peer Networking. If not

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