[AFMUG] [political] [utah]

2016-03-22 Thread Josh Reynolds
Chuck, So I'm watching the polling right now.. it's *very* early, only 3% (R) and 11% (D) ballots counted. [R] So far It's Cruz 58.8%, Kasich 22.0%, Trump 19.2%. [D] So far it's Sanders 74.8%, Clinton 24.1%. Since you're over there in beautiful Utah, I'm interested in hearing your (and others)

Re: [AFMUG] Fw: OT Trump in Utah

2016-03-22 Thread Josh Reynolds
National Review was created as a platform for Republicans to communicate national issues. Before we go any further, I'm not discrediting the validity of the source, simply pointing that out. So I read the article, and I'll agree... I don't think Goldwater was a racist either. That said, the

Re: [AFMUG] Fw: OT Trump in Utah

2016-03-22 Thread Josh Reynolds
Teddy Roosevelt. Started as a Republican. When he saw the butchering Taft did to the country, he started his own "Progressive Party" because there was no way he would get the Republican nomination... after all, they put him there (as VP) to basically get rid of him. His party platform wanted: a

Re: [AFMUG] Fw: OT Trump in Utah

2016-03-22 Thread Cameron Crum
Here is a decent article on the myth... http://www.nationalreview.com/article/386257/myth-republican-racism-mona-charen On Tue, Mar 22, 2016 at 11:57 PM, Cameron Crum wrote: > The party swapping is a myth...please tell me who all the people were who > swapped? It is a lie

Re: [AFMUG] Fw: OT Trump in Utah

2016-03-22 Thread Cameron Crum
The party swapping is a myth...please tell me who all the people were who swapped? It is a lie perpetuated by the left to win favor with the minorities whose votes they so desperately want. On Tue, Mar 22, 2016 at 7:19 PM, Eric Kuhnke wrote: > If Trump wins the election

Re: [AFMUG] AC Speed Options

2016-03-22 Thread Jason McKemie
Rory - What are you charging for your 100 or 200mbps packages? On Tue, Mar 22, 2016 at 10:29 PM, Rory Conaway wrote: > We are offering speeds up to 200Mbps with the Mimosa A5 but you have to > make sure your entire backend is built to deliver it. To do that , we are >

Re: [AFMUG] AC Speed Options

2016-03-22 Thread Rory Conaway
We are offering speeds up to 200Mbps with the Mimosa A5 but you have to make sure your entire backend is built to deliver it. To do that , we are expecting the A5-360 14’s to be within about ½ mile on average and 40 customers. We have tested out to 1.5 miles with the C5’s, but modulation

Re: [AFMUG] PowerDNS vs Bind for Resolver

2016-03-22 Thread Eric Kuhnke
one of the problems of a NUC (or a similar thing from Asus, MSI, other taiwanese vendors) is that many of them use 19VDC input and their own 120VAC brick power supplies. It's not like you can just feed a couple dozen of them with 12VDC on 12AWG stranded wire. On Tue, Mar 22, 2016 at 8:18 PM,

Re: [AFMUG] PowerDNS vs Bind for Resolver

2016-03-22 Thread Josh Reynolds
Depends on the hardware configuration of the VM stack, but a nuc based systems would, for sure, have better physical redundancy. Similar to a chassis based system, minus the chassis itself being a potential failure point. The would still be layers of inefficiencies, but as with anything there are

Re: [AFMUG] AC Speed Options

2016-03-22 Thread Darin Steffl
XL is using the new Mimosa A5 hardware for those speeds, not the Ubiquiti AC. I would be confident offering those speeds with the new Mimosa gear if you have great signals and keep distance low. On Tue, Mar 22, 2016 at 9:56 PM, Cassidy B. Larson wrote: > So we’re looking at

Re: [AFMUG] PowerDNS vs Bind for Resolver

2016-03-22 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
Why not virtual machines? Granted there is some overhead for the hypervisor but better use of the platform and simply full disaster recovery. On Mar 22, 2016 9:34 PM, "Josh Reynolds" wrote: > Small footprint, can fit many in 2u. Low power draw, high performance. > They do

Re: [AFMUG] Fw: OT Trump in Utah

2016-03-22 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
Anybody who thinks Romney is driving that train is mad, the deal was made with the devil here. I put as much credence into what a party did or didn't do a long time ago as I do any argument about slavery and its impact today. Not all that relevant. On Mar 22, 2016 8:40 PM, "Josh Reynolds"

[AFMUG] AC Speed Options

2016-03-22 Thread Cassidy B. Larson
So we’re looking at adding some new AC-only rates to our pricing and wondering what ya’ll are doing. We normally have a three-level hierarchical policer that lets us do a commit and a burst rate and a burst bucket (MB). We also usually have the upload close to the same commit as the download,

Re: [AFMUG] PowerDNS vs Bind for Resolver

2016-03-22 Thread Josh Reynolds
Small footprint, can fit many in 2u. Low power draw, high performance. They do dissipate quite a bit of heat though. They would make good compute nodes. On Mar 22, 2016 9:21 PM, "Ken Hohhof" wrote: > Those NUC thingies are really cute, but the latest ones seem very very >

Re: [AFMUG] PowerDNS vs Bind for Resolver

2016-03-22 Thread Ken Hohhof
Those NUC thingies are really cute, but the latest ones seem very very pricey. What am I missing? From: Eric Kuhnke Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2016 8:45 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] PowerDNS vs Bind for Resolver Power is how expensive? At one of the largest carrier hotels/biggest

Re: [AFMUG] PowerDNS vs Bind for Resolver

2016-03-22 Thread Mike Hammett
In Cermak there are many places you can't get more power, so there's the lost opportunity cost. I can't imagine that Pis are better than a virtualized system, but I've never used them. Proxmox would be good for those types of light weight loads. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing

Re: [AFMUG] PowerDNS vs Bind for Resolver

2016-03-22 Thread Eric Kuhnke
Power is how expensive? At one of the largest carrier hotels/biggest IX points in north america, I've calculated the cost of power to be around 23 cents/kWh... That's with the building providing multiply redundant 2 megawatt generators, diverse city power feeds, and taking into account the

Re: [AFMUG] Fw: OT Trump in Utah

2016-03-22 Thread Josh Reynolds
No, you're simply not understanding what I'm saying. It's not a single issue or a handful - the entire parties strategies, platforms, and beliefs did a complete flip from one to the other. You can disagree if you want but you'd be ignoring many many personal documents, public voting records,

Re: [AFMUG] PowerDNS vs Bind for Resolver

2016-03-22 Thread Graham McIntire
I haven't had any of them die on me from SD card write failure yet, though I've been worried about it. I keep spares of everything in case of failure, but they're cheap enough you could set up a huge VRRP cluster or something to eliminate any down time. Power is expensive at the building with our

Re: [AFMUG] Fw: OT Trump in Utah

2016-03-22 Thread Steve D
We already are... http://brickingitforcanada.com/ https://youtu.be/QFfUSxPUXKA -Steve D On Tue, Mar 22, 2016 at 5:36 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote: > Made of maple syrup and hockey pucks, ey? And we'll make em pay for it! > On Mar 22, 2016 7:35 PM, "Ken Hohhof"

Re: [AFMUG] Fw: OT Trump in Utah

2016-03-22 Thread Josh Reynolds
Made of maple syrup and hockey pucks, ey? And we'll make em pay for it! On Mar 22, 2016 7:35 PM, "Ken Hohhof" wrote: > How about: if Trump wins the election, Canada will build a wall? > > *From:* Eric Kuhnke > *Sent:* Tuesday, March 22, 2016 7:19 PM >

Re: [AFMUG] Fw: OT Trump in Utah

2016-03-22 Thread Ken Hohhof
How about: if Trump wins the election, Canada will build a wall? From: Eric Kuhnke Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2016 7:19 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fw: OT Trump in Utah If Trump wins the election I'm moving to Canada! oh wait, I'm already Canadian. please disregard On Tue,

Re: [AFMUG] Fw: OT Trump in Utah

2016-03-22 Thread Ken Hohhof
WGN afternoon drivetime radio was discussing this today, how Molenbeek has an “unassimilated” Muslim immigrant community where this guy lived for 4 months a block from where he grew up, and the community protected him rather than giving him up. They compared it to Chicago black and Latino

Re: [AFMUG] Fw: OT Trump in Utah

2016-03-22 Thread Eric Kuhnke
If Trump wins the election I'm moving to Canada! oh wait, I'm already Canadian. please disregard On Tue, Mar 22, 2016 at 3:06 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote: > Millions being spent by Republicans that don't want Trumpwe are just > amused observers watching you guys

Re: [AFMUG] SFPs on Tower Radios

2016-03-22 Thread Eric Kuhnke
Finally! It's not like an SFP cage and associated electronics are so much more expensive than a 1000BaseT port. At least not on a $3000 to $6000 radio pair. For those who still want to use copper I'm sure they can import and sell a vast quantity of copper SFPs. On Tue, Mar 22, 2016 at 2:15

Re: [AFMUG] Fw: OT Trump in Utah

2016-03-22 Thread Josh Reynolds
It's not at all, do the research. The parties did a 180deg flip. It's not my fault if this fucks up somebody's worldview, I'm just the messenger. On Mar 22, 2016 5:55 PM, "Jay Weekley" wrote: > Convenient revisionism. > > Josh Reynolds wrote: > >> >> No, those would

Re: [AFMUG] Fw: OT Trump in Utah

2016-03-22 Thread Jaime Solorza
I mean like these multi site attacks...not the guys stabbing someone or rockets fired from outsideyes Israeli defense is very good...maybe my wording was wrong. On Mar 22, 2016 5:29 PM, "Lewis Bergman" wrote: > Your kidding right? Nothing planned? > I think bringing

Re: [AFMUG] Fw: OT Trump in Utah

2016-03-22 Thread Lewis Bergman
Your kidding right? Nothing planned? I think bringing up Israel is a great point right now. No people or nation have been more under the gun and at the tip of the spear. They do an excellent job of security. They also don't care whom they offend while they do it. Last time I was there (decades

Re: [AFMUG] Fw: OT Trump in Utah

2016-03-22 Thread Jaime Solorza
Well some terrorist acts have occurred there in buses and streets but nothing planned like these attacks. On Mar 22, 2016 5:04 PM, "Chuck McCown" wrote: > One of them was also hurt or almost hurt in the Boston bombing. He is > from my local area. > Need to pray for the Belgians

Re: [AFMUG] Fw: OT Trump in Utah

2016-03-22 Thread Chuck McCown
One of them was also hurt or almost hurt in the Boston bombing. He is from my local area. Need to pray for the Belgians too. And for the leaders of the EU to get a bit more inventive in solutions. How come this never happens in Israel? From: Jaime Solorza Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2016

Re: [AFMUG] Fw: OT Trump in Utah

2016-03-22 Thread Jaime Solorza
Apparently three Mormon elders and US military family on mission hurt in bombings... will pray for them... On Mar 22, 2016 4:58 PM, "Jaime Solorza" wrote: > Cool > On Mar 22, 2016 4:57 PM, "Chuck McCown" wrote: > >> Yeah, the CIA has a “men who stare

Re: [AFMUG] Fw: OT Trump in Utah

2016-03-22 Thread Chuck McCown
Yeah, the CIA has a “men who stare at goats” division that will help with that. From: Jaime Solorza Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2016 4:55 PM To: Animal Farm Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fw: OT Trump in Utah Through a medium? On Mar 22, 2016 4:52 PM, "Chuck McCown" wrote: Cruz is

Re: [AFMUG] Fw: OT Trump in Utah

2016-03-22 Thread Jaime Solorza
Through a medium? On Mar 22, 2016 4:52 PM, "Chuck McCown" wrote: > Cruz is doing it too: > > "We need to empower law enforcement to patrol and secure Muslim > neighborhoods before they become radicalized," Cruz said in a statement > Tuesday morning. > How exactly can you prevent

Re: [AFMUG] Fw: OT Trump in Utah

2016-03-22 Thread Jay Weekley
Convenient revisionism. Josh Reynolds wrote: No, those would be the modern day Republican party based on politics of the time. On Mar 22, 2016 5:30 PM, "Chuck McCown" > wrote: So were all the early KKK guys democrats? -Original

Re: [AFMUG] Fw: OT Trump in Utah

2016-03-22 Thread Chuck McCown
Ghettos. Make ‘em wear a crescent ‘n star on their clothes. Then the real ‘mericans can spot them right away. Watch to see if they look shifty or twitchy. From: Chuck McCown Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2016 4:52 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fw: OT Trump in Utah Cruz is doing it

Re: [AFMUG] Fw: OT Trump in Utah

2016-03-22 Thread Chuck McCown
Cruz is doing it too: "We need to empower law enforcement to patrol and secure Muslim neighborhoods before they become radicalized," Cruz said in a statement Tuesday morning. How exactly can you prevent anyone from becoming radicalized with LEA patrols? That is likely to push someone over

Re: [AFMUG] Fw: OT Trump in Utah

2016-03-22 Thread Jaime Solorza
Ted Cruzado as welltold ya!!! On Mar 22, 2016 4:46 PM, "Chuck McCown" wrote: > “Trump also called into Fox Business Network's Mornings with Maria > Bartiromo saying that the US must have surveillance of Muslims in this > country, particularly at mosques.” > > > Deploy the

Re: [AFMUG] Fw: OT Trump in Utah

2016-03-22 Thread Chuck McCown
I have heard more reasoned discourse from toothless drunken rednecks sitting in lawn chairs shooting holes in the rusting car body in their front yard. From: Chuck McCown Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2016 4:45 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fw: OT Trump in Utah “Trump also called into

Re: [AFMUG] Fw: OT Trump in Utah

2016-03-22 Thread Josh Reynolds
No, those would be the modern day Republican party based on politics of the time. On Mar 22, 2016 5:30 PM, "Chuck McCown" wrote: > So were all the early KKK guys democrats? > > -Original Message- From: Josh Reynolds > Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2016 4:28 PM > To:

Re: [AFMUG] Fw: OT Trump in Utah

2016-03-22 Thread Jaime Solorza
Yes..you are correct.. Whigs and all...but many right wingers call it thatappreciate that many on this list actually didn't fall asleep in history or government classes... On Mar 22, 2016 4:28 PM, "Josh Reynolds" wrote: > KIND of... > > Lincoln actually would have been

Re: [AFMUG] Fw: OT Trump in Utah

2016-03-22 Thread Chuck McCown
So were all the early KKK guys democrats? -Original Message- From: Josh Reynolds Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2016 4:28 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fw: OT Trump in Utah KIND of... Lincoln actually would have been more of a Democrat. The parties actually swapped platforms.

Re: [AFMUG] Fw: OT Trump in Utah

2016-03-22 Thread Josh Reynolds
KIND of... Lincoln actually would have been more of a Democrat. The parties actually swapped platforms. http://www.livescience.com/34241-democratic-republican-parties-switch-platforms.html On Tue, Mar 22, 2016 at 5:06 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote: > Millions being spent

Re: [AFMUG] Fw: OT Trump in Utah

2016-03-22 Thread Jaime Solorza
Millions being spent by Republicans that don't want Trumpwe are just amused observers watching you guys destroy Lincoln's party by now he is spinning in his grave at centrifuge speed. On Mar 22, 2016 4:03 PM, "Jaime Solorza" wrote: > Wow...an honest

Re: [AFMUG] Fw: OT Trump in Utah

2016-03-22 Thread Jaime Solorza
Wow...an honest observer...kudos On Mar 22, 2016 3:13 PM, "Sean Heskett" wrote: > um those ads with trump's wife were paid for by the romney super pac that > is trying to stop trump...not the left, unless you go too far right that > you swing all the way around to the left lol.

Re: [AFMUG] Fw: OT Trump in Utah

2016-03-22 Thread Ken Hohhof
His previous wife is a lefty. From: Lewis Bergman Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2016 4:38 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fw: OT Trump in Utah I changed my mind after that photo. I vote for her. On Tue, Mar 22, 2016, 10:28 AM Mark Radabaugh wrote: Well it does show

Re: [AFMUG] Fw: OT Trump in Utah

2016-03-22 Thread Lewis Bergman
I changed my mind after that photo. I vote for her. On Tue, Mar 22, 2016, 10:28 AM Mark Radabaugh wrote: > Well it does show *most* of the left side. > > Mark > > On Mar 22, 2016, at 12:36 PM, Jeremy wrote: > > ^ That add hardly appears to have been put

Re: [AFMUG] SFPs on Tower Radios

2016-03-22 Thread Josh Reynolds
YAY! :) On Tue, Mar 22, 2016 at 4:15 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: > > > > > - > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > > >

Re: [AFMUG] Cacti Users poll

2016-03-22 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
man, that cacti ez, its a beautiful thing, I havent seen detailed graphs like this on our equipment in a long long time. On Tue, Mar 22, 2016 at 1:22 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote: > There is a thread on NANOG right now about mrtg/cacti. > > Answer? Observium :P > > On Tue, Mar

Re: [AFMUG] SFPs on Tower Radios

2016-03-22 Thread Mike Hammett
- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Mike Hammett" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2016 12:44:58 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SFPs on Tower Radios

Re: [AFMUG] Fw: OT Trump in Utah

2016-03-22 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
Figurehead On Tue, Mar 22, 2016 at 4:13 PM, Sean Heskett wrote: > um those ads with trump's wife were paid for by the romney super pac that > is trying to stop trump...not the left, unless you go too far right that > you swing all the way around to the left lol. > > On Tue, Mar

Re: [AFMUG] Fw: OT Trump in Utah

2016-03-22 Thread Sean Heskett
um those ads with trump's wife were paid for by the romney super pac that is trying to stop trump...not the left, unless you go too far right that you swing all the way around to the left lol. On Tue, Mar 22, 2016 at 9:43 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm < thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote: > I do like

Re: [AFMUG] Cacti Users poll

2016-03-22 Thread Josh Reynolds
There is a thread on NANOG right now about mrtg/cacti. Answer? Observium :P On Tue, Mar 22, 2016 at 1:06 PM, George Skorup wrote: > I just install it on CentOS via yum. I forget what repo it's in, maybe > EPEL. I do that to get the required dependencies. And then remove the

Re: [AFMUG] Cacti Users poll

2016-03-22 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
cactiEZ gave me fits sometime back so i never messed with it again. Its installed now, and even has network weathermap. Thanks! On Tue, Mar 22, 2016 at 11:17 AM, Eric Muehleisen wrote: > CactiEZ. Couldn't be easier. http://cactiez.cactiusers.org/ > > On Tue, Mar 22, 2016 at

Re: [AFMUG] Fw: OT Trump in Utah

2016-03-22 Thread Mark Radabaugh
Well it does show *most* of the left side. Mark > On Mar 22, 2016, at 12:36 PM, Jeremy wrote: > > ^ That add hardly appears to have been put out 'by the left'. > > On Tue, Mar 22, 2016 at 10:28 AM, Jeremy >

Re: [AFMUG] Fw: OT Trump in Utah

2016-03-22 Thread Jay Weekley
Ok. I get it now. I read it differently. That One Guy /sarcasm wrote: I dont think so. The left believes the mormons are a bunch of bible thumping inbred child molesting hicks who can be bought with a nude picture On Tue, Mar 22, 2016 at 10:53 AM, Jay Weekley

Re: [AFMUG] Cacti Users poll

2016-03-22 Thread Steve
Don't use it for logging we use splunk. So I couldn't comment on how it handles logging. I look at it purely as a graphing program alternative to cacti. All the extra features are just a bonus. - Original Message - From: "Mike Hammett" To: af@afmug.com Sent:

Re: [AFMUG] Fw: OT Trump in Utah

2016-03-22 Thread Jeremy
http://www.aol.com/article/2016/03/21/anti-donald-trump-ads-criticize-melania-trump-for-nude-photos-in/21331400/ On Tue, Mar 22, 2016 at 10:26 AM, Jaime Solorza wrote: > I think Chuck likes weather girls as well > > http://youtu.be/kEOkeAI2wgE > > Jaime Solorza >

Re: [AFMUG] Fw: OT Trump in Utah

2016-03-22 Thread Jaime Solorza
I think Chuck likes weather girls as well http://youtu.be/kEOkeAI2wgE Jaime Solorza Wireless Systems Architect 915-861-1390 On Tue, Mar 22, 2016 at 10:16 AM, Chuck McCown wrote: > Or are you saying we like Trump because of his wife? > I am not familiar with the anti Trump

Re: [AFMUG] subcontractor as a service requirements

2016-03-22 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
No, not me. Though I am occasionally a subcontractor to the company looking into this. We are contracting a company for infrastructure (project based) work rather than rehiring exiting staff. He is considering offering installations as a service as a component of his structure. Neither one of us

Re: [AFMUG] Cacti Users poll

2016-03-22 Thread Eric Muehleisen
CactiEZ. Couldn't be easier. http://cactiez.cactiusers.org/ On Tue, Mar 22, 2016 at 10:49 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm < thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote: > IT would be exceptionally valuable if there were a base vm with a wizard > based initial setup provided with it. Every time ive gone to set up

Re: [AFMUG] Fw: OT Trump in Utah

2016-03-22 Thread Chuck McCown
You have it wrong, Mormons love nude women... From: That One Guy /sarcasm Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2016 9:43 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fw: OT Trump in Utah I do like the insult the anti trump movement perpetrated on the mormons with the ad featuring his wife nude. Pandering at

Re: [AFMUG] Cacti Users poll

2016-03-22 Thread Mike Hammett
Not all of the rest. You have to setup the syslog, configuration tracking, etc. Basically, you need to configure everything beyond what the old time stuff does. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message

Re: [AFMUG] Cacti Users poll

2016-03-22 Thread Steve
LibreNMS - all support is already there for most devices. Just in the ip/hostname and the snmp community and boom it does the rest. - Original Message - From: "Mathew Howard" To: "af" Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2016 12:02:31 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG]

Re: [AFMUG] subcontractor as a service requirements

2016-03-22 Thread Doug Hass
You're not really describing a subcontractor/contractor service, but more of a temp agency/temp employee service. If what you envision is starting a company to provide these services to other businesses, that's something different, but I what you're describing seems a bit different. On Tue, Mar

Re: [AFMUG] Fw: OT Trump in Utah

2016-03-22 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
I dont think so. The left believes the mormons are a bunch of bible thumping inbred child molesting hicks who can be bought with a nude picture On Tue, Mar 22, 2016 at 10:53 AM, Jay Weekley wrote: > Did auto correct get you Steve? > > That One Guy /sarcasm wrote: > >>

Re: [AFMUG] Cacti Users poll

2016-03-22 Thread Mathew Howard
That's been my problem too... On Tue, Mar 22, 2016 at 10:49 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm < thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote: > IT would be exceptionally valuable if there were a base vm with a wizard > based initial setup provided with it. Every time ive gone to set up cacti, > i screwed something

Re: [AFMUG] subcontractor as a service requirements

2016-03-22 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
Can you detail that out further, Doug? On Tue, Mar 22, 2016 at 10:58 AM, Doug Hass wrote: > Setting aside the technical requirements of the position, the "SaaS" that > you're describing wouldn't eliminate the question of whose employee it is. > Most likely, this person is

Re: [AFMUG] subcontractor as a service requirements

2016-03-22 Thread Doug Hass
Setting aside the technical requirements of the position, the "SaaS" that you're describing wouldn't eliminate the question of whose employee it is. Most likely, this person is your employee (as well as the service organization's employee) for most purposes. On Tue, Mar 22, 2016 at 10:50 AM, That

Re: [AFMUG] Cacti Users poll

2016-03-22 Thread Steve
LibreNMS here as well. Its just much better than Observium in a lot of ways for our industry. Plus they are working on their new 2.0 interface. - Original Message - From: "Mike Hammett" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2016 11:50:21 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG]

Re: [AFMUG] Cacti Users poll

2016-03-22 Thread Steve
We use Cacti and will continue to use it. Its a good "second opinion". - Original Message - From: "SmarterBroadband" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2016 11:45:39 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cacti Users poll To what? What do you use Mike?

Re: [AFMUG] Fw: OT Trump in Utah

2016-03-22 Thread Jay Weekley
Did auto correct get you Steve? That One Guy /sarcasm wrote: I do like the insult the anti trump movement perpetrated on the mormons with the ad featuring his wife nude. Pandering at its finest, shows the left views mormons as one step above an amoeba in terms of intellect. On Tue, Mar 22,

Re: [AFMUG] subcontractor as a service requirements

2016-03-22 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
crickets? On Fri, Mar 18, 2016 at 12:15 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm < thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote: > The subcontractor question comes up quite often. > > If an organization offered a subcontractor service (eliminates the > question of whether its your employee are not, the subcontractor is >

Re: [AFMUG] Cacti Users poll

2016-03-22 Thread Mike Hammett
NetXMS and LibreNMS in different environments. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "SmarterBroadband" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2016

Re: [AFMUG] Cacti Users poll

2016-03-22 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
IT would be exceptionally valuable if there were a base vm with a wizard based initial setup provided with it. Every time ive gone to set up cacti, i screwed something up or some other task took priority, or i got drunk. On Tue, Mar 22, 2016 at 10:45 AM, SmarterBroadband <

Re: [AFMUG] Test

2016-03-22 Thread Mathew Howard
I'm amazed at your ability to reply to an email you didn't get :P On Tue, Mar 22, 2016 at 10:37 AM, Faisal Imtiaz wrote: > Nope... Did not get the email ... > > LOL ! > > > Faisal Imtiaz > Snappy Internet & Telecom > > - Original Message - > > From: "Dan

Re: [AFMUG] Test

2016-03-22 Thread Mike Hammett
He's just that good... - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Mathew Howard" To: "af" Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2016 10:40:57 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG]

Re: [AFMUG] Cacti Users poll

2016-03-22 Thread SmarterBroadband
To what? What do you use Mike? From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2016 6:04 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cacti Users poll Cacti is old, time to move on... - Mike Hammett Intelligent

Re: [AFMUG] Cacti Users poll

2016-03-22 Thread SmarterBroadband
Kentik Has anyone used this? From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2016 6:31 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cacti Users poll I'm very progressive when it comes to tech. Just because something does and has worked doesn't

Re: [AFMUG] Fw: OT Trump in Utah

2016-03-22 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
I do like the insult the anti trump movement perpetrated on the mormons with the ad featuring his wife nude. Pandering at its finest, shows the left views mormons as one step above an amoeba in terms of intellect. On Tue, Mar 22, 2016 at 10:40 AM, Jeremy wrote: > You

Re: [AFMUG] Fw: OT Trump in Utah

2016-03-22 Thread Jeremy
You could always vote for Bernie. ;) On Tue, Mar 22, 2016 at 9:27 AM, Steve wrote: > Well you guys get to vote for a career criminal / pathological liar or a > sociopath narcissist. > > God have mercy on us all. > > - Original Message - > From: "Darren Shea"

Re: [AFMUG] Test

2016-03-22 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
Nope... Did not get the email ... LOL ! Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet & Telecom - Original Message - > From: "Dan Petermann" > To: af@afmug.com > Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2016 11:16:21 AM > Subject: [AFMUG] Test > Just checking, I haven’t received any mail since

Re: [AFMUG] Fw: OT Trump in Utah

2016-03-22 Thread Steve
Well you guys get to vote for a career criminal / pathological liar or a sociopath narcissist. God have mercy on us all. - Original Message - From: "Darren Shea" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2016 11:19:48 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fw: OT Trump in Utah

Re: [AFMUG] Fw: OT Trump in Utah

2016-03-22 Thread Darren Shea
We need a "None of the Above" option - if that's the winner, not a single one of the candidates who appeared on the ballot for that race are eligible to run in the follow-up election. -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jay Weekley Sent: Tuesday, March

Re: [AFMUG] Test

2016-03-22 Thread Jeremy
working On Tue, Mar 22, 2016 at 9:16 AM, Dan Petermann wrote: > Just checking, I haven’t received any mail since this yesterday.

Re: [AFMUG] Test

2016-03-22 Thread Josh Luthman
Blah Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Mar 22, 2016 at 11:16 AM, Dan Petermann wrote: > Just checking, I haven’t received any mail since this yesterday.

[AFMUG] Test

2016-03-22 Thread Dan Petermann
Just checking, I haven’t received any mail since this yesterday.

Re: [AFMUG] Brussels

2016-03-22 Thread Stefan Englhardt
These are the decisions in life … I came to school bus a bit later one day in my youth. Just arrived short after a van was accidentialy driven straight through the pupils wating there. Von: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] Im Auftrag von Lewis Bergman Gesendet: Dienstag, 22. März 2016

Re: [AFMUG] Brussels

2016-03-22 Thread Lewis Bergman
He was supposed to leave The Hague yesterday but they stayed an extra day, not that he would have been near the attacks. I don't think he said if they were still going, which I think they should. On Tue, Mar 22, 2016 at 8:45 AM Jaime Solorza wrote: > WowGod bless

Re: [AFMUG] reasonably priced cable tester

2016-03-22 Thread Josh Reynolds
Those mapping tools are incredibly valuable. Love them. Excellent tool for data/TV coax work as well. On Mar 22, 2016 9:24 AM, "Faisal Imtiaz" wrote: > How about something like this... > > > >

Re: [AFMUG] reasonably priced cable tester

2016-03-22 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
How about something like this... http://www.ebay.com/itm/From-USA-NF388-Network-Ethernet-LAN-Phone-Tester-Tool-Tracker-USB-Coaxial-Cable-/181992179101?hash=item2a5f94459d:g:MrsAAOSwpRRWmIw6 Regards. Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet & Telecom 7266 SW 48 Street Miami, FL 33155 Tel: 305 663

Re: [AFMUG] Brussels

2016-03-22 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
Happy to hear that your son is safe. Thank the Lord for his blessings. Our deepest sorrow, condolences and prayers for those affected and their families. These acts of violence are senseless acts by any measure. Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet & Telecom > From: "Lewis Bergman"

Re: [AFMUG] Fw: OT Trump in Utah

2016-03-22 Thread Jay Weekley
Could we be the non vocal majority or are we just the relative few that think we're in for a long four years at least? If I am interviewing candidates for a job and don't like any of the candidates I reopen the process and get more applications. To bad we can't do that in politics. Chuck

Re: [AFMUG] reasonably priced cable tester

2016-03-22 Thread Bill Prince
That's what I've used for quite a few years. Has been reliable, and provides all the functionality I need for a reasonable price. bp On 3/22/2016 6:52 AM, Jaime Solorza wrote: Test Um was one I had that walked away from on a project. Gives you distance of run

Re: [AFMUG] reasonably priced cable tester

2016-03-22 Thread Jaime Solorza
Test Um was one I had that walked away from on a project. Gives you distance of run and shorts... kit with 8 remote plugs was under 500.00 On Mar 19, 2016 12:56 PM, "Rory Conaway" wrote: > What is the recommendation for an inexpensive cable tester that can give >

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium Support for LibreNMS

2016-03-22 Thread Steve
Forgot to mention limited support for CMM 3.x and 4.x. We need to add all the network info, but it does graph the GPS stats. More will be coming. Also some devices graph CRC errors, jitter, data rate, modulation mode, SSR, temperature and other indicators we thought would be useful to

Re: [AFMUG] reasonably priced cable tester

2016-03-22 Thread Paul McCall
The Pocket Ethernet looks very cool. They shipped for a little bit then stopped? A couple of my guys need new testers and am so tired of the cheap ones that work only for a short time Paul From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2016 8:39 AM

Re: [AFMUG] Cacti Users poll

2016-03-22 Thread Bill Prince
Water is older. I still drink water. bp On 3/22/2016 6:06 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: So is TCP/IP Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mar 22, 2016 9:04 AM, "Mike Hammett"

[AFMUG] Cambium Support for LibreNMS

2016-03-22 Thread Steve
On a side note - anyone have any Cambium contacts on the list I can talk to about getting permission to use their logo? We've added our first pass at detection and graphing for these series of devices. (Pretty much only the devices we had access to immediately) PMP100 (AP and SM) PMP450(AP

Re: [AFMUG] Brussels

2016-03-22 Thread Chuck McCown
Whew! From: Lewis Bergman Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2016 7:27 AM To: Animal Farm Subject: [AFMUG] Brussels My son was in Amsterdam this week and had planned to visit Brussels. My wife talked to them this morning and they hadn't left to head that way yet. Timing.

Re: [AFMUG] Fw: OT Trump in Utah

2016-03-22 Thread Chuck McCown
AMEN! From: Lewis Bergman Again, it is hard to believe that the field, both sides, is the best this country can do.

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