Re: [AFMUG] Tales from the Towers - Chapter 59 Posted

2016-04-26 Thread Josh Reynolds
I've got to be honest... It's been awhile since you weren't going on a rant about the FCC or did something that was IMO really objective and at least somewhat technical... ... But this one is really well done Rory. Informative and entertaining with little to no spin. Very well done. On Apr 26,

[AFMUG] Tales from the Towers - Chapter 59 Posted

2016-04-26 Thread Rory Conaway
http://muniwireless.com/2016/04/26/migration-isnt-just-for-birds/ Rory Conaway * Triad Wireless * CEO 4226 S. 37th Street * Phoenix * AZ 85040 602-426-0542 r...@triadwireless.net www.triadwireless.net "I wish I could play little

Re: [AFMUG] How would you address this?

2016-04-26 Thread Glen Waldrop
Agreed. From: Ken Hohhof Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2016 3:40 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] How would you address this? I think I would also make it clear that you are giving him a discount, not getting a subsidy from some government program to make up the difference. From: Rory

Re: [AFMUG] How would you address this?

2016-04-26 Thread Ken Hohhof
I think I would also make it clear that you are giving him a discount, not getting a subsidy from some government program to make up the difference. From: Rory Conaway Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2016 3:29 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] How would you address this? If he has no other

Re: [AFMUG] How would you address this?

2016-04-26 Thread Rory Conaway
If he has no other option, then you can do what you want. This program seems to be specific to CenturyLink. We just tell the customer they have to sign a contract and there is an NDA clause in it. Rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jerry Head Sent: Tuesday, April 26,

Re: [AFMUG] How would you address this?

2016-04-26 Thread Glen Waldrop
aaarrgh From: Josh Luthman Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2016 2:06 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] How would you address this? Hope he's doing OK. Reminds me of Monty Python - perhaps he died while writing it! Personally I'd have a hard time justifying $9.95 for any kind

[AFMUG] Sierra Components?

2016-04-26 Thread Glen Waldrop
Anyone ever order from them? Hit a snag, wondering if they’re always condescending pricks or if I just happened to get lucky.

Re: [AFMUG] mikrotik question

2016-04-26 Thread David
HOLY SNIKEYS>>> I did not know they would do that. We have 10+ on a campus and everyone of them are either in a basement or attic. They only have 3 physical devices plugged into them. 1 epmp,2 MT-Cap devices So far been a year to date none have failed yet? Now watch all will fail at once since

Re: [AFMUG] How would you address this?

2016-04-26 Thread Jerry Head
Appreciate the thoughts. I think we are going to offer a 66% discount on installation along with a 40% discount on our monthly rate. No DSL available at his address. On 4/26/2016 2:17 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: When the BTOP funded middle mile fiber project came through, local news reports led

Re: [AFMUG] How would you address this?

2016-04-26 Thread David
Myself, A veteran. I do believe in giving credit where credit is due. It sounds like all he is asking for is if there is an available discounted rate program that your company may offer. The install is one but he is possibly looking for the low end package that has a better monthly rate. We

Re: [AFMUG] How would you address this?

2016-04-26 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
yeah, all that caused was more wind, one of our customers told me On Tue, Apr 26, 2016 at 2:17 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: > When the BTOP funded middle mile fiber project came through, local news > reports led many people to believe this would lead to everyone along the > route

Re: [AFMUG] How would you address this?

2016-04-26 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
dsl to our customer base is never reliable over about 300k. Id say ten bucks a month for 300k is fair. On Tue, Apr 26, 2016 at 2:06 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: > Hope he's doing OK. Reminds me of Monty Python - perhaps he died while > writing it! > > Personally I'd

Re: [AFMUG] How would you address this?

2016-04-26 Thread Ken Hohhof
When the BTOP funded middle mile fiber project came through, local news reports led many people to believe this would lead to everyone along the route getting free Internet from the government. Oh yeah, when the wind farm went in, some people thought that meant free electricity. From: Josh

Re: [AFMUG] How would you address this?

2016-04-26 Thread Rory Conaway
We got hit with this a few weeks ago. They get internet for $9.95 per month for 1.5Mbps with DSL. We match this. Rory -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jerry Head Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2016 12:03 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] How would

Re: [AFMUG] How would you address this?

2016-04-26 Thread Josh Luthman
Hope he's doing OK. Reminds me of Monty Python - perhaps he died while writing it! Personally I'd have a hard time justifying $9.95 for any kind of unlimited service. If he can get DSL at that price, have at it. If it's not available, maybe we can help. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340

[AFMUG] How would you address this?

2016-04-26 Thread Jerry Head
This is a copy/paste of an inquiry submission we received on our website. What is this guy asking for? Discounted service possibly? As a WISP we certainly don't feed from the public trough, are we "required" to do some kind of discounted service here? Having said all that I would mention that

Re: [AFMUG] mikrotik question

2016-04-26 Thread Ty Featherling
Exactly like that. -Ty -Ty On Tue, Apr 26, 2016 at 11:55 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote: > Like transporting the Tribbles to the Klingon ship? > > *From:* Ty Featherling > *Sent:* Tuesday, April 26, 2016 10:49 AM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG]

Re: [AFMUG] Updated Winbox for Mac

2016-04-26 Thread Joshaven Mailing Lists
Good thinking I didn’t mean to have the local… I have the site running on my local computer and use that domain to test before pushing to the live site… whoops! http://joshaven.com/resources/tools/winbox-for-mac/ Sincerely, Joshaven Potter Google Hangouts: j...@g2wireless.co Cell & SMS:

Re: [AFMUG] mikrotik question

2016-04-26 Thread Ken Hohhof
Like transporting the Tribbles to the Klingon ship? From: Ty Featherling Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2016 10:49 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mikrotik question I thought that was just me! I packaged it up and sent it to my competition. -Ty -Ty On Tue, Apr 26, 2016 at 10:48 AM,

Re: [AFMUG] anybody using ignitenet spark/sunfire/skyfire?

2016-04-26 Thread Mathew Howard
They haven't actually announced anything in 60ghz PTMP yet, have they? I know there was some talk about a future product, but 60ghz is only PTP at this point... unless I missed something. On Tue, Apr 26, 2016 at 8:32 AM, Josh Reynolds wrote: > Companies can make more than

Re: [AFMUG] Updated Winbox for Mac

2016-04-26 Thread Jon Bruce
I think you meant to leave the local. out of the URL. On 4/26/2016 11:13 AM, Joshaven Mailing Lists wrote: I finally got around to releasing version 3.4 of Winbox for Mac for any of you who need it... http://local.joshaven.com/resources/tools/winbox-for-mac/ Sincerely, Joshaven Potter

Re: [AFMUG] mikrotik question

2016-04-26 Thread Ty Featherling
I thought that was just me! I packaged it up and sent it to my competition. -Ty -Ty On Tue, Apr 26, 2016 at 10:48 AM, Chris Wright wrote: > Mine started oozing green slime and attempted to perform a blood sacrifice > to Gozer on my junior techs! > > > > Chris Wright > >

Re: [AFMUG] mikrotik question

2016-04-26 Thread Chris Wright
Mine started oozing green slime and attempted to perform a blood sacrifice to Gozer on my junior techs! Chris Wright Network Administrator Velociter Wireless 209-838-1221 x115 From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2016 7:42 AM To: af@afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] Closest AF24 Paths

2016-04-26 Thread Jeremy
The number that I have heard tossed around is 8 degrees. On Tue, Apr 26, 2016 at 8:42 AM, Nate Burke wrote: > Same tower leg stacked. > > On 4/26/2016 9:33 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: > > On the same tower leg stacked or 10 feet apart? > > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 >

Re: [AFMUG] Updated Winbox for Mac

2016-04-26 Thread Ty Featherling
That's too bad. Enjoy Aruba, though! Also, the link didn't work until I removed the local. subdomain. -Ty -Ty On Tue, Apr 26, 2016 at 10:23 AM, Joshaven Mailing Lists < lis...@joshaven.com> wrote: > Sadly no. I was in Texas last week and I am back home (Michigan) now for > 2 weeks… then off

Re: [AFMUG] Updated Winbox for Mac

2016-04-26 Thread Joshaven Mailing Lists
Sadly no. I was in Texas last week and I am back home (Michigan) now for 2 weeks… then off to Aruba. No time. ;( I’m gonna try to make it to more events soon though so maybe next time. When I found out that I was going to be driving past the MUM just a bit too early I was sad… I hear it’s

Re: [AFMUG] Updated Winbox for Mac

2016-04-26 Thread Ty Featherling
Awesome, thank you very much. Gonna be at the MUM? I'll buy you a beer. -Ty -Ty On Tue, Apr 26, 2016 at 10:13 AM, Joshaven Mailing Lists < lis...@joshaven.com> wrote: > I finally got around to releasing version 3.4 of Winbox for Mac for any of > you who need it... >

[AFMUG] Updated Winbox for Mac

2016-04-26 Thread Joshaven Mailing Lists
I finally got around to releasing version 3.4 of Winbox for Mac for any of you who need it... http://local.joshaven.com/resources/tools/winbox-for-mac/ Sincerely, Joshaven Potter Google Hangouts: j...@g2wireless.co Cell & SMS:

Re: [AFMUG] Closest AF24 Paths

2016-04-26 Thread Jaime Solorza
It is not as tight as you thinkI had to relocate Bridgewave 80ghz radios that were 5 ft apart and use wall to shield it from hearing each other. On Apr 26, 2016 8:28 AM, "Nate Burke" wrote: > With as Tight as the beams on the AF24 are, and how sensitive alignment > is,

Re: [AFMUG] Closest AF24 Paths

2016-04-26 Thread Nate Burke
Same tower leg stacked. On 4/26/2016 9:33 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: On the same tower leg stacked or 10 feet apart? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Apr 26, 2016 at 10:28 AM, Nate Burke

Re: [AFMUG] mikrotik question

2016-04-26 Thread Josh Luthman
Mine failed while sitting in a controlled office. They simply don't turn on or power on. I use them as cable holders so no one trips over my test cables. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Apr 26, 2016 at 10:39 AM, Dennis

Re: [AFMUG] mikrotik question

2016-04-26 Thread Dennis Burgess
We stopped selling them, just way to many issues, not working, ports burn out, failures, etc. www.linktechs.net – 314-735-0270 x103 – dmburg...@linktechs.net -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Adam Moffett Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2016 9:33 AM To:

Re: [AFMUG] mikrotik question

2016-04-26 Thread Adam Moffett
Well I've never bought a Tough Switch so for my own education I would like to know what's wrong with them. On 4/25/2016 3:20 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote: *grabs a bucket of popcorn* I can list quite a few things wrong with them if you'd really like to know. On Mon, Apr 25, 2016 at 1:22 PM,

Re: [AFMUG] Closest AF24 Paths

2016-04-26 Thread Josh Luthman
On the same tower leg stacked or 10 feet apart? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Apr 26, 2016 at 10:28 AM, Nate Burke wrote: > With as Tight as the beams on the AF24 are, and how sensitive alignment >

[AFMUG] Closest AF24 Paths

2016-04-26 Thread Nate Burke
With as Tight as the beams on the AF24 are, and how sensitive alignment is, how close of azimuths can you have on 2 paths (real world experience)? Is 5 degrees too little? Spec sheet says <3.5degree beam width. So it should work?

Re: [AFMUG] anybody using ignitenet spark/sunfire/skyfire?

2016-04-26 Thread Stefan Englhardt
The do 5GHz, too. Got a small SP-AC750. Just works. Their APs look smart and Cloud-Service looks decent. But we’re just like to see these 60GHz Products. Nobody has stock for the PTPs here. If we could do 60GHz PTMP within a km around towers and push 1GB HDX to nearby customers I have to

Re: [AFMUG] anybody using ignitenet spark/sunfire/skyfire?

2016-04-26 Thread Bill Prince
So far. It would require something extra to allow it to work over a sector. Possibly beam forming? bp On 4/26/2016 6:31 AM, Eric Muehleisen wrote: I thought the 60ghz was PTP only? On Mon, Apr 25, 2016 at 10:37 PM, Joe Novak

Re: [AFMUG] anybody using ignitenet spark/sunfire/skyfire?

2016-04-26 Thread Josh Reynolds
Companies can make more than 1 product you know :P On Apr 26, 2016 8:31 AM, "Eric Muehleisen" wrote: > I thought the 60ghz was PTP only? > > On Mon, Apr 25, 2016 at 10:37 PM, Joe Novak wrote: > >> Would love to hear about them. Very interested in the ptmp

Re: [AFMUG] anybody using ignitenet spark/sunfire/skyfire?

2016-04-26 Thread Eric Muehleisen
I thought the 60ghz was PTP only? On Mon, Apr 25, 2016 at 10:37 PM, Joe Novak wrote: > Would love to hear about them. Very interested in the ptmp 60ghz.. it is > suppose to have 5ghz fail over built in. It's got me curious. > On Apr 25, 2016 3:12 PM, "Josh Reynolds"

Re: [AFMUG] mikrotik question

2016-04-26 Thread David
Ya know me! Im always looking for a giant stir for the pot:) On 04/25/2016 01:40 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: Are you trolling or just insane?! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Apr 25, 2016 at 2:22 PM, David

Re: [AFMUG] Licensed spectrum for utility companies

2016-04-26 Thread Jerry Head
Second paragraph under "substantial service" https://wireless2.fcc.gov/UlsEntry/attachments/attachmentViewRD.jsp;ATTACHMENTS=c3vsXfYWpfTN7PLvH3DjhTjW1PxLsxh4QWNht2Qr19RQSDrnZp7K!69931718!-248951168?applType=search=1971335529=18622404=applAttach On 4/25/2016 4:55 PM, Jesse DuPont wrote: Are you

Re: [AFMUG] mikrotik question

2016-04-26 Thread Rhys Cuff (Latrobe I.T)
" I can list quite a few things wrong with them if you'd really like to know" I would :-) -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Reynolds Sent: Tuesday, 26 April 2016 5:20 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mikrotik question *grabs a bucket