Re: [AFMUG] old competition

2016-05-24 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
more is better cheaper On Tue, May 24, 2016 at 5:03 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: > They didn't change their name to Rise? > > -Original Message- From: Travis Johnson Sent: Tuesday, May 24, > 2016 3:57 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] old competition > Hey... > > It's always fun to see a f

Re: [AFMUG] old competition

2016-05-24 Thread Lewis Bergman
The greater joy is knowing they still think spending big money on yellow page ads will ever pay back. I got left out ad could not tll the difference. We received 8 complaints about not being there and when I asked how they found us they all said "web search". Huhmaybe that is why we aren't in t

Re: [AFMUG] OT Texas board of education vote is critical for conservatives – and US schools

2016-05-24 Thread Josh Reynolds
This is the fascinating thing to me, is that somehow Trump isn't "status quo". Of course he is, he's used to be political. He's used to operating in and with the political spectrum, local and federal governments, etc. He's just not been a "politician" so he's been allowed to "get away with more" at

Re: [AFMUG] old competition

2016-05-24 Thread Chuck McCown
What’s a yellow page From: Lewis Bergman Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 4:04 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] old competition The greater joy is knowing they still think spending big money on yellow page ads will ever pay back. I got left out ad could not tll the difference. We recei

Re: [AFMUG] old competition

2016-05-24 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
no one sells internet less, maybe its a psyop to make people subconsciously think its so good they dont have to even sell it that it sells itself On Tue, May 24, 2016 at 5:04 PM, Lewis Bergman wrote: > The greater joy is knowing they still think spending big money on yellow > page ads will ever

Re: [AFMUG] old competition

2016-05-24 Thread Lewis Bergman
I didn't see a typo but there is a major grammatical error. "No one sells internet less". I assume they meant " for less" instead of selling less internet than anyone. Where is Al Gore when you need him to invent new ways to sell the internet. On Tue, May 24, 2016 at 5:04 PM Lewis Bergman wrote:

Re: [AFMUG] old competition

2016-05-24 Thread Chuck McCown
Look at the pricing and the speed. From: Lewis Bergman Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 4:06 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] old competition I didn't see a typo but there is a major grammatical error. "No one sells internet less". I assume they meant " for less" instead of selling less

Re: [AFMUG] old competition

2016-05-24 Thread Josh Reynolds
LOL I see that now :) I was looking for spelling errors! On Tue, May 24, 2016 at 5:06 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: > Look at the pricing and the speed. > > *From:* Lewis Bergman > *Sent:* Tuesday, May 24, 2016 4:06 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] old competition > > I didn't see a t

Re: [AFMUG] old competition

2016-05-24 Thread Josh Reynolds
LOL I see that now :) I was looking for spelling errors! On Tue, May 24, 2016 at 5:06 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: > Look at the pricing and the speed. > > *From:* Lewis Bergman > *Sent:* Tuesday, May 24, 2016 4:06 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] old competition > > I didn't see a t

Re: [AFMUG] OT Texas board of education vote is critical for conservatives – and US schools

2016-05-24 Thread Lewis Bergman
Wow...now I have to work on getting that image out of my head...thanks Josh. Besides that, not saying it is a valid point, just what I hear people saying.I haven't heard anyone say they like Trump, approve of what he has been saying, and still voted for him. They just are more sickened by everyone

Re: [AFMUG] old competition

2016-05-24 Thread Lewis Bergman
I see nothing wrong with the speed and pricing. You get more, you pay less right? besides, Everyone knows internet is used on a bell curve so the bookends are always lower than the middle. On Tue, May 24, 2016 at 5:09 PM Josh Reynolds wrote: > LOL I see that now :) I was looking for spelling err

Re: [AFMUG] old competition

2016-05-24 Thread Bill Prince
One that was left too close to the urinal. bp On 5/24/2016 3:06 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: What’s a yellow page

Re: [AFMUG] old competition

2016-05-24 Thread Travis Johnson
This is their "satellite" group that now resells Rise internet. They kept the Big Dog name even after selling the WISP to JAB/Rise. Travis On 5/24/2016 4:03 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: They didn't change their name to Rise? -Original Message- From: Travis Johnson Sent: Tuesday, May 24,

Re: [AFMUG] OT Texas board of education vote is critical for conservatives – and US schools

2016-05-24 Thread Josh Reynolds
Another thing that gets me is how the GOP is actually "supporting" him, or at least trying to create the public appearance of it. Like, are you kidding me? You guys hated this guy's guts. You said all kinds of bad crap about him as both a person and as a presidential candidate, and now you "support

Re: [AFMUG] old competition

2016-05-24 Thread Chuck McCown
The pricing gaffe (if it was a gaffe) seems that why would anyone anyone take rural residential when you get residential for less price and more speed. -Original Message- From: Travis Johnson Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 4:14 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] old competition Th

Re: [AFMUG] OT MS Access alternatives

2016-05-24 Thread SmarterBroadband
That is $12 per seat? Yes, 5 PC but I think only one login? · One license covers 5 phones, 5 tablets, & 5 PCs or Macs per user From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 8:48 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT MS Acces

Re: [AFMUG] old competition

2016-05-24 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
we are looking at a LOS low hanging fruit plan with more speed for less money, but figure that will cause a stink On Tue, May 24, 2016 at 5:19 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: > The pricing gaffe (if it was a gaffe) seems that why would anyone anyone > take rural residential when you get residential for

Re: [AFMUG] OT MS Access alternatives

2016-05-24 Thread Chuck McCown
No, $12/month total for 5 seats. They say 5 computers. One would hope concurrent logins. From: SmarterBroadband Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 4:20 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT MS Access alternatives That is $12 per seat? Yes, 5 PC but I think only one login? · O

Re: [AFMUG] OT MS Access alternatives

2016-05-24 Thread Mike Hammett
"per user" - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Chuck McCown" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 5:23:57 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT MS Access alternatives No, $12/month

Re: [AFMUG] OT MS Access alternatives

2016-05-24 Thread Chuck McCown
Damn these rose colored glasses... From: Mike Hammett Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 4:25 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT MS Access alternatives "per user" - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP ---

Re: [AFMUG] OT MS Access alternatives

2016-05-24 Thread Bill Prince
Last time I got this, it was $99 (total) for 5 seats for a year. Plus you could add/remove seats at will. IOW, if someone got a new laptop, you could remove that "seat", and add another one. bp On 5/24/2016 3:23 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: No, $12/month total for 5 seats. They say 5 computers.

Re: [AFMUG] OT MS Access alternatives

2016-05-24 Thread SmarterBroadband
The home version covers 5 seats and is only $99 a year….. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 3:24 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT MS Access alternatives No, $12/month total for 5 seats. They say 5 computers. One would

Re: [AFMUG] OT MS Access alternatives

2016-05-24 Thread Chuck McCown
Does that mean concurrent logins? That is pretty important in my application. From: SmarterBroadband Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 4:31 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT MS Access alternatives The home version covers 5 seats and is only $99 a year….. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@a

Re: [AFMUG] OT MS Access alternatives

2016-05-24 Thread SmarterBroadband
I think the home version covers 5 different Users. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of SmarterBroadband Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 3:32 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT MS Access alternatives The home version covers 5 seats and is only $99 a year….. From: Af

Re: [AFMUG] OT Texas board of education vote is critical for conservatives – and US schools

2016-05-24 Thread Rory Conaway
The generation as a whole is not producing the same percentage of scientists or engineers as in the past. Even Mexico is producing more engineers then we are. Ask any of the manufacturers, Ubiquiti, Mimosa, etc… if they can find enough experienced engineers. Rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@

Re: [AFMUG] OT MS Access alternatives

2016-05-24 Thread SmarterBroadband
Home, maybe. Looks like it. I’m just reading the web page. This is interesting for people who need occasional access. https://products.office.com/en-us/office-online/documents-spreadsheets-presentations-office-online Get started with Office Online now No install required. Choose your

Re: [AFMUG] OT Texas board of education vote is critical for conservatives – and US schools

2016-05-24 Thread Ken Hohhof
Watch out for the ones who got their degree at Costco. From: Lewis Bergman Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 4:24 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG]OT Texas board of education vote is critical for conservatives – and US schools I would have to take exception to the whole "the younger generatio

Re: [AFMUG] old competition

2016-05-24 Thread Ken Hohhof
Al Gore, inventor of the AlGorithm. From: Lewis Bergman Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 5:06 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] old competition I didn't see a typo but there is a major grammatical error. "No one sells internet less". I assume they meant " for less" instead of selling less i

Re: [AFMUG] OT Texas board of education vote is critical for conservatives – and US schools

2016-05-24 Thread Jaime Solorza
I don't believe the core belief claim holds true...they say one thing and practice another... many are hypocrites...they knocked Trump and now in bed with him?...in an effort to save face and party they are going to support someone who honestly is not good for USA. I am not a Republican, I wouldn'

Re: [AFMUG] OT Texas board of education vote is critical for conservatives – and US schools

2016-05-24 Thread Jaime Solorza
Trump sued bank to get out of $40M debt after housing crash http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/trump-sued-bank-40m-debt-housing-crash-article-1.2648758 It took 4 years to pay off a debt from my company... it was tough but I didn't declare bankruptcy...I guess I am stupid at business and un-

Re: [AFMUG] OT Texas board of education vote is critical for conservatives – and US schools

2016-05-24 Thread Bill Prince
But look at the size of it. It's HUUUGE! bp On 5/24/2016 4:06 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: Watch out for the ones who got their degree at Costco.

Re: [AFMUG] OT Texas board of education vote is critical for conservatives – and US schools

2016-05-24 Thread Lewis Bergman
Republicans and dems are all the same. Everything is negotiable and willing to be traded in order to get or keep power. And of course power is equivalent to money. Read the book the list is named after. The only exception is when you have a dictator like NK or Cuba where you just kill people who d

Re: [AFMUG] old competition

2016-05-24 Thread Jason McKemie
Are we sure this is a mistake? I've seen companies charge more for rural service than suburban / urban. The "no one sells internet less" is an error though (I hope so for their sake anyhow). On Tuesday, May 24, 2016, Chuck McCown wrote: > The pricing gaffe (if it was a gaffe) seems that why woul

Re: [AFMUG] CMM4 Question

2016-05-24 Thread Gino Villarini
Netonix On Tue, May 24, 2016 at 3:41 PM, Craig Schmaderer wrote: > Crap, I didn’t realize that it doesn’t do 1gb but I do remember that being > talked about a while back, I guess I will go back to a ctm2 or maybe call > forest and look at a sync pipe. > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.

[AFMUG] WTB: Packetflux Generator Controller

2016-05-24 Thread Gino Villarini
Anyone has units for sale?

Re: [AFMUG] OT Texas board of education vote is critical for conservatives – and US schools

2016-05-24 Thread Jason McKemie
True. If we could only get rid of these damn political parties... On Tuesday, May 24, 2016, Lewis Bergman wrote: > Republicans and dems are all the same. Everything is negotiable and > willing to be traded in order to get or keep power. And of course power is > equivalent to money. Read the boo

Re: [AFMUG] WTB: Packetflux Generator Controller

2016-05-24 Thread George Skorup
Did Forrest discontinue it!? On 5/24/2016 6:57 PM, Gino Villarini wrote: Anyone has units for sale?

Re: [AFMUG] WTB: Packetflux Generator Controller

2016-05-24 Thread Gino Villarini
yes On Tue, May 24, 2016 at 8:23 PM, George Skorup wrote: > Did Forrest discontinue it!? > > On 5/24/2016 6:57 PM, Gino Villarini wrote: > >> Anyone has units for sale? >> > >

[AFMUG] SM Isolation Question

2016-05-24 Thread Gerard Dupont III
On our fiber network I use port isolation and mac forced forwarding(not available in MikroTik) to accomplish layer2 isolation but still allow client to client unicast traffic. Proxy arp is as close to MACFF as you can get in MikroTik. I think you should be able to use option 2 if you use a differe

Re: [AFMUG] WTB: Packetflux Generator Controller

2016-05-24 Thread Gerard Dupont III
I have one sitting on my desk that's still in the bag/box. Pre ordered it and never did anything with it once it came in. Give me whatever you think is fair and I'll get it shipped tomorrow. Gerard On Tuesday, May 24, 2016, Gino Villarini wrote: > yes > > On Tue, May 24, 2016 at 8:23 PM, George

Re: [AFMUG] WTB: Packetflux Generator Controller

2016-05-24 Thread George Skorup
Ah man. That thing is awesome. I have one. We're probably going to change up our double transfer switch setup at the office. My design wasn't going to work the way I wanted it to. So I might not need the PacketFlux controller. Let me check with the boss and see if he's cool selling you this on

Re: [AFMUG] OT Texas board of education vote is critical for conservatives – and US schools

2016-05-24 Thread Jaime Solorza
I read it as Freshman Candide by VoltaireThe Prince by Machiavelli... works of Payne, Rousseau and Adam Smith...frosh and sophomore years...wish my school hadn't closed down.. ended up at Riverside High School...very different.. some of the books I read at a Jesuit school were banned at Riv

Re: [AFMUG] OT MS Access alternatives

2016-05-24 Thread Cameron Crum
Maybe SQLServer Express? It's free. I guess it depends on what you are doing with database. On Tue, May 24, 2016 at 5:41 PM, SmarterBroadband < li...@smarterbroadband.com> wrote: > Home, maybe. Looks like it. I’m just reading the web page. > > > > This is interesting for people who need occasio

Re: [AFMUG] WTB: Packetflux Generator Controller

2016-05-24 Thread Forrest Christian (List Account)
Sort of. We sold a total of around 80 (over a few years). There were some manufacturability issues which needed to be dealt with (why there's 80 instead of 100 - not a good yield). Fixing those with the current design isn't really practical. Reordering and making just a few more of the exis

Re: [AFMUG] Is Mfi dead?

2016-05-24 Thread Sterling Jacobson
Who knows. They say it’s not. But they need to move on it soon if they want to stay relevant in the IoT market. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Eric Kuhnke Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 3:36 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Is Mfi dead? I think ubnt management has i

Re: [AFMUG] Is Mfi dead?

2016-05-24 Thread Josh Reynolds
They said it was dead. They are working on a similar product line I think On May 24, 2016 8:49 PM, "Sterling Jacobson" wrote: > Who knows. > > > > They say it’s not. > > > > But they need to move on it soon if they want to stay relevant in the IoT > market. > > > > > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:af-b

Re: [AFMUG] Is Mfi dead?

2016-05-24 Thread Sterling Jacobson
Oh, ok, I must have missed that announcement. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Reynolds Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 8:01 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Is Mfi dead? They said it was dead. They are working on a similar product line I think On May 24, 2016 8:49 PM

[AFMUG] ipv4 vs ipv6 FIB size

2016-05-24 Thread Eric Kuhnke
I've been running a script for the last few months which grabs the current size of the ipv4 and ipv6 FIBs for a full routing table, once a day, and writes it to an RRA. here's the results: http://imgur.com/a/iJfPT That chart with the green is actually drawing both v4 and v6 on the same chart. T

Re: [AFMUG] ipv4 vs ipv6 FIB size

2016-05-24 Thread Sterling Jacobson
To wit? Not sure if this gives credence to my frustration with the whole IPv6 ‘transition’ and lack of IPv4, or if it means IPv6 is somehow more optimal. I’m thinking the former. And I’m thinking it’s the CDN/content providers fault. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Eric Kuh

Re: [AFMUG] ipv4 vs ipv6 FIB size

2016-05-24 Thread Cassidy B. Larson
For further historical graphs: v4: http://tinyurl.com/y9hf6qs v6: http://tinyurl.com/jj83yy2 > On May 24, 2016, at 10:16 PM, Eric Kuhnke wrote: > > I've been running a script for the last few months which grabs the current > size of the ipv4 and ipv6 FIBs for a full routing table, once a da

Re: [AFMUG] ipv4 vs ipv6 FIB size

2016-05-24 Thread Eric Kuhnke
Let's see if we can get afrinic to release all that unused /8 space and encourage everyone to advertise it as individual /22 to /24 pieces! *cringe* On May 24, 2016 9:27 PM, "Sterling Jacobson" wrote: > To wit? > > > > Not sure if this gives credence to my frustration with the whole IPv6 > ‘tran

[AFMUG] OT Texan Who Posted Extreme Views Loses Runoff for State Education Post

2016-05-24 Thread Jaime Solorza
I am relieved Texan Who Posted Extreme Views Loses Runoff for State Education Post http://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/25/us/texan-who-posted-extreme-views-loses-runoff-for-state-education-post.html

Re: [AFMUG] OT Texas board of education vote is critical for conservatives – and US schools

2016-05-24 Thread Forrest Christian (List Account)
If there's anything that this election cycle gives me hope about, it's that it is painfully obvious that the american people are finally fed up with politics as usual. On Tue, May 24, 2016 at 6:05 PM, Jason McKemie < j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> wrote: > True. If we could only get rid of t

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