Re: [AFMUG] Convert Andrew Dragonwave dishes to N

It wouldn't be disruptive :P On Fri, Jul 1, 2016 at 11:18 PM, Eric Kuhnke wrote: > IMHO it should be neither N or SMA or anything else, it should be direct > to waveguide... What is wrong with the mechanical robustness of mounting a > radio directly on a dish (cylindrical

Re: [AFMUG] Convert Andrew Dragonwave dishes to N

IMHO it should be neither N or SMA or anything else, it should be direct to waveguide... What is wrong with the mechanical robustness of mounting a radio directly on a dish (cylindrical waveguide + 4 bolt REMEC)? Or the way a Dragonwave radio mounts with the four clips? On Fri, Jul 1, 2016 at

Re: [AFMUG] Convert Andrew Dragonwave dishes to N

It seems to me that something along the lines of what the RF elements horn antennas have could work... On Jul 1, 2016 10:27 PM, "George Skorup" wrote: > If they figure out how to put a waveguide interface on their > interchangeable/reversible diplexer design, they may have

Re: [AFMUG] Convert Andrew Dragonwave dishes to N

If they figure out how to put a waveguide interface on their interchangeable/reversible diplexer design, they may have something. But until then, it ain't waveguide, so I ain't buyin it. That simple. On 7/1/2016 10:13 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: The connectors may very well be designed such they

Re: [AFMUG] Convert Andrew Dragonwave dishes to N

The connectors may very well be designed such they will work at that frequency, but the care that is taken when terminating cables with them and the quality of the cable is every bit as important. UBNT ain’t exactly known for high end stuff. (Sorry Chuck M). I am sure that if it is critical

Re: [AFMUG] Convert Andrew Dragonwave dishes to N

It is just damned hard to use cables at 11 GHz and up. On test gear where you are trying to optimize and tune waveguide components, my $1200 huber shuner cable is not even that reliable. You wiggle it and things that should not move move on the screen. I hate using cables when I am above 6

Re: [AFMUG] Convert Andrew Dragonwave dishes to N

They are part of the base kit... On Jul 1, 2016 9:44 PM, "Chuck McCown" wrote: > It will be interesting to see what “low” means when it comes to a fully > tested and guaranteed 18 GHz cable. Perhaps they will supply the cables > too. Perhaps advances in N connectors are

Re: [AFMUG] Convert Andrew Dragonwave dishes to N

It will be interesting to see what “low” means when it comes to a fully tested and guaranteed 18 GHz cable. Perhaps they will supply the cables too. Perhaps advances in N connectors are something I am oblivious to. From: Josh Reynolds Sent: Friday, July 01, 2016 8:38 PM To: af@afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] Convert Andrew Dragonwave dishes to N

No doubt that the mechanical robustness is better. Weatherproofing can be done to SMA. From: Mike Hammett Sent: Friday, July 01, 2016 8:41 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Convert Andrew Dragonwave dishes to N UBNT said that they went with N for its increased mechanical robustness

Re: [AFMUG] Convert Andrew Dragonwave dishes to N

You just said the same thing I did 2 days ago. I asked if I could post a screenshot of the response, but havent been given a go ahead on this yet. If my understanding is correct, there's about 15 people working on this radio. 12 of which came from Motorola. On Jul 1, 2016 9:41 PM, "Mike Hammett"

Re: [AFMUG] Convert Andrew Dragonwave dishes to N

UBNT said that they went with N for its increased mechanical robustness and weatherproofing. Were they having issues with that at SMA? Why go cabled over waveguide at all anyway? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP -

Re: [AFMUG] Convert Andrew Dragonwave dishes to N

Right, and so do the people you're talking about - keep it in mind they've already tested these. I brought up this exact issue by the way, when they (idiot customer) fuck up a connector and buy one from BillyBobs HAM shop and wonder why it doesn't work. I was told the cost on these was low, and

Re: [AFMUG] Convert Andrew Dragonwave dishes to N

Here is the thing, you buy a radio that has 11 or 18 GHz appearing on an N connector. Then you purchase a cable from your favorite cable place. Connect the two and wonder why you are having problems. If you get a cable that actually has connectors rated for the frequency if they did not

Re: [AFMUG] Convert Andrew Dragonwave dishes to N

Let me clarify something, I'm not taking about comparing N to SMA, I'm talking about verifying these high quality N connectors are suitable for use in low to medium cost licensed backhaul links. On Jul 1, 2016 9:12 PM, wrote: > I'm saying the same thing. Take the connector designed for it, thrown

Re: [AFMUG] Convert Andrew Dragonwave dishes to N

I'm saying the same thing. Take the connector designed for it, thrown your opinion in the trash, and post the results. Repeat the test. Have someone else repeat the test. Scientific method. On Jul 1, 2016 9:10 PM, "Chuck McCown" wrote: > Type N connectors are not in common use

Re: [AFMUG] 100 Foot Towers and Less

https://www.tessco.com/selector/tower/ - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Robert Haas" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2016 4:51:54 PM

Re: [AFMUG] Convert Andrew Dragonwave dishes to N

So, nothing personal by this... but if the connector is designed for it (and has several versions by other manufacturers to boot), has been used (and is still used) on testing equipment... I'm probably more inclined to take their word for it over yours. On Jul 1, 2016 7:58 PM, "Chuck McCown"

Re: [AFMUG] Cogent

Location does make a big difference. I would in no way use them for a single upstream. For one, Cogent doesn't have the entire IPv6 Internet. They are great in a mix, especially if you have a route management platform or take only customer routes. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing

Re: [AFMUG] Convert Andrew Dragonwave dishes to N

IMHO, 6 GHz is the upper limit. From: Peter Kranz Sent: Friday, July 01, 2016 5:22 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Convert Andrew Dragonwave dishes to N “Originally, the connector was designed to carry signals at frequencies up to 1 GHz in military applications, but today's common

Re: [AFMUG] Cogent

I would never use them. Ever. I have a upstream issue with them on my Centurlylink circuit. Those 2 idiots have been arguing on that peer agreement for 6 months now. Craig Schmaderer Cell 402-380-1245 Skywave Wireless, Inc. On Fri, Jul 1, 2016 at 6:29 PM -0500, "That One Guy /sarcasm"

Re: [AFMUG] Cogent

our upstream dumped them On Fri, Jul 1, 2016 at 6:22 PM, Eric Kuhnke wrote: > Expect that significant chunks of the internet might be unreachable for > large periods of time due to Cogent's occasional peering disputes with > other large tier-1/2 ISPs. > > > > On Fri, Jul

Re: [AFMUG] 100 Foot Towers and Less

20', maybe 30' if bracketed to the side of a house. Really not what it's intended to do. Also varies greatly with wind loading, a 40' 55G with some VHF/UHF whip antennas on top is going to be very different than if you were to try putting several 2' dishes on top. On Fri, Jul 1, 2016 at 3:48 PM,

Re: [AFMUG] Cogent

Expect that significant chunks of the internet might be unreachable for large periods of time due to Cogent's occasional peering disputes with other large tier-1/2 ISPs. On Fri, Jul 1, 2016 at 3:52 PM, Jason McKemie < j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> wrote: > Does anyone have experience with

Re: [AFMUG] Convert Andrew Dragonwave dishes to N

“Originally, the connector was designed to carry signals at frequencies up to 1 GHz in military applications, but today's common Type N easily handles frequencies up to 11 GHz. More recent precision enhancements to the design by Julius Botka at Hewlett

Re: [AFMUG] Cogent

Service changes take forever. Sales runs everything. 14% of our routes have a best hop to them, others to HE. (Telia added soon) On Jul 1, 2016 5:52 PM, "Jason McKemie" wrote: > Does anyone have experience with Cogent as a primary upstream? Good, bad, > ugly? I

Re: [AFMUG] 100 Foot Towers and Less

Yeah, I've climbed some 25Gs that I probably shouldn't have... On Friday, July 1, 2016, Sean Heskett wrote: > as always "it depends" the ROHN manual will have the exact specs. > > I wouldn't go above 30 feet without guy wires, the system is designed to > be a loaded spring

Re: [AFMUG] 100 Foot Towers and Less

as always "it depends" the ROHN manual will have the exact specs. I wouldn't go above 30 feet without guy wires, the system is designed to be a loaded spring which is what gives it strength. if you are putting up a 4' dish, i'd want guy wires even at 30 feet, if you are putting an SM up you

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[AFMUG] Cogent

Does anyone have experience with Cogent as a primary upstream? Good, bad, ugly? I assume the service location makes some difference as well. -Jason

Re: [AFMUG] 100 Foot Towers and Less

How tall can you take a 45 or 55 without guy wires? On Friday, July 1, 2016, Eric Kuhnke wrote: > How about Rohn 45G, 55G or 65G pieces from www.3starinc.com ? They also > sell the full Rohn kits that come with everything. If you want something > stronger/shorter than a

Re: [AFMUG] 100 Foot Towers and Less

How about Rohn 45G, 55G or 65G pieces from www.3starinc.com ? They also sell the full Rohn kits that come with everything. If you want something stronger/shorter than a normal design (like a 90' 65G with heavier than usual guying, for big dishes) you can easily see the individual component pieces

Re: [AFMUG] New generator almost ready!

There is a piece of flex. The iron pipe makes a 180 after the regulator back to the rail and then comes up on the left to a shutoff, a union and the flex to the carb. Seems like it had to be a lot of work to get that regulator in there, but perhaps the plumber wanted to keep it out of the

Re: [AFMUG] FS: Epmp 2.4 connectorized radios, panels

I think 2 gps and 20 non gps. Bunch of it elite panels Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Jul 1, 2016 4:09 PM, "Colin Stanners" wrote: > How many radios? Are they the GPS-sync/gigabit version or the >

Re: [AFMUG] FS: Epmp 2.4 connectorized radios, panels

How many radios? Are they the GPS-sync/gigabit version or the unsync/100mbit version? On Fri, Jul 1, 2016 at 3:06 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: > Whatever you think is fair > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy,

Re: [AFMUG] FS: Epmp 2.4 connectorized radios, panels

Whatever you think is fair Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Jul 1, 2016 3:17 PM, "Colin Stanners" wrote: > Switching over to Skypilot right? > > We may be interested in the radios, please email offlist with

Re: [AFMUG] FS: Epmp 2.4 connectorized radios, panels

Switching over to Skypilot right? We may be interested in the radios, please email offlist with number and what you're looking for. On Jul 1, 2016 2:02 PM, "Josh Luthman" wrote: > Looking to get rid of these things. Please let me know if you're at all > interested!

[AFMUG] FS: Epmp 2.4 connectorized radios, panels

Looking to get rid of these things. Please let me know if you're at all interested! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373

Re: [AFMUG] 100 Foot Towers and Less

Nello in Ft Wayne... Eric Rogers www.pdsconnect.me (317) 831-3000 x200 From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2016 3:09 PM To: memb...@wispa.org; af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] 100 Foot Towers and Less

Re: [AFMUG] Graduated $/'

Yeah, that is fairly middle of nowhere. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "SmarterBroadband" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Friday, July 1, 2016 1:40:44 PM

Re: [AFMUG] Small Outdoor Plastic Case

I've used this for that sort of thing in the past: http://www.alliedelec.com/bud-industries-nbf-32010/70148200/?mkwid=sabYU23qn=30980760979=CjwKEAjwqdi7BRCL6Zmjk5-rsTwSJABmrVab3asXbbP5r2Z90ODFKArGjjxxTMcuOcuJQdVdts9behoCOI3w_wcB Or you could buy a 6x6x4 NEMA box from somewhere like Home Depot or

Re: [AFMUG] Graduated $/'

Private building, Rural, Grass Valley CA. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Friday, July 01, 2016 11:37 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Graduated $/' What market? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions

Re: [AFMUG] Graduated $/'

What market? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "SmarterBroadband" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Friday, July 1, 2016 12:20:55 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Graduated

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP 2.6.2 - (was 2.5.5)

Naaah… It’s FRIDAY!☺ From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Craig Schmaderer Sent: Friday, July 1, 2016 1:51 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP 2.6.2 - (was 2.5.5) Josh I think you hit a nerve…. ☺ From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Paul McCall

Re: [AFMUG] New generator almost ready!

Vibration. Our Generac included a short flexible hose. You are allowed one 90 degree elbow out of the input on the frame rail to allow the line to run parallel. That elbow should immediately connect to the flex section. I've seen it done both ways. The ones with rigid piping all the way (like

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP 2.6.2 - (was 2.5.5)

Josh I think you hit a nerve…. ☺ From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Paul McCall Sent: Friday, July 1, 2016 12:48 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP 2.6.2 - (was 2.5.5) Again, for us, it happens when we had ANY DNS server addresses in there (all of which DO respond

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP 2.6.2 - (was 2.5.5)

Again, for us, it happens when we had ANY DNS server addresses in there (all of which DO respond normally) Hadn’t noticed it on APs , but we stopped after the 2nd tower when the SMs acted up From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Friday, July 1, 2016 11:17 AM

Re: [AFMUG] Graduated $/'

Last one we did was Monthly rent for each Panel and/or ≤ 24” Dish Antenna shall be $50.00. Monthly rent for each > 24” Dish Antenna shall be $100.00. Minimum Monthly rent shall be $400.00. This was written a few years back. Adam From: Af

Re: [AFMUG] Small Outdoor Plastic Case

Found I had one of these hiding in store room. http://www.wlanparts.com/enclosures/wlanparts-enctel-enclosure-9x6x3-inch-outdoor-1-port-gray/ Its a bit big though. This is kind of a one off project. On Fri, Jul 1, 2016 at 9:46 AM, wrote: > Give me the dimensions you need.

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP 2.6.2 - (was 2.5.5)

On SMs only or on APs too? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Paul McCall" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Friday, July 1, 2016 10:15:23 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP 2.6.2

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP 2.6.2 - (was 2.5.5)

>From what Dan posted it said the bug happens when the DNS server doesn't respond. Are you finding something different? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Jul 1, 2016 at 11:15 AM, Paul McCall wrote: > No,

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP 2.6.2 - (was 2.5.5)

No, we do our own DNS (always have). But, even though the DNS is accessible and working perfectly, the SM craps out (no local Ethernet data works) when we put our DNS numbers in the SM. Take them out and the SM works fine. The RF interface works fine either way. I was just stating that

Re: [AFMUG] Small Outdoor Plastic Case

Give me the dimensions you need. -Original Message- From: Matt Sent: Friday, July 1, 2016 8:18 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Small Outdoor Plastic Case Looking for a 'neat looking' small plastic outdoor case. I need to replace a Canopy 600SS with a case that can hold

[AFMUG] Small Outdoor Plastic Case

Looking for a 'neat looking' small plastic outdoor case. I need to replace a Canopy 600SS with a case that can hold small surge arrestor and small 2 port mikrotik like maybe a map. Its basically because the cat5 run is too long and I need to split it. I do not want it any larger then possible.

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