Re: [AFMUG] How the cell companies do nat?

2016-09-24 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 9/24/16 9:11 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: CGNAT\NAT444 and IPv6. All of my cell-enabled devices have an IPv6 address. That effectively means the IPv4 NAT problem doesn't exist for content like Google, Youtube, Facebook, etc. on those devices. ~Seth

[AFMUG] Netduma?

2016-09-24 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
What is this? My brother in lawish has this, he paid 200 bucks for a rb915g with this on it. The only benefit I see is it somehow minimizes his replication for gaming. If I was running on the 512 k management connection at my house I'm guessing this thing would think Jesus had an o face. Funny thin

Re: [AFMUG] Small PC for remote Troubleshooting

2016-09-24 Thread Jaime Solorza
Mondo rad On Sep 24, 2016 7:23 PM, "Adam Moffett" wrote: > Wow, that's rad. > and I haven't said anything was rad in about 20 years, so that really > says something. > > > -- Original Message -- > From: "TJ Trout" > To: af@afmug.com > Sent: 9/24/2016 5:27:58 PM > Subject: Re: [AFMUG

Re: [AFMUG] How the cell companies do nat?

2016-09-24 Thread Josh Reynolds
CGNAT ftw. On Sat, Sep 24, 2016 at 11:11 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: > CGNAT\NAT444 and IPv6. > > > > - > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > > >

Re: [AFMUG] How the cell companies do nat?

2016-09-24 Thread Mike Hammett
CGNAT\NAT444 and IPv6. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "TJ Trout" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Saturday, September 24, 2016 11:07:07 PM Subject: [AFMUG] How the cell companies do nat?

Re: [AFMUG] 900 MHz PMP450i :: Any real numbers?

2016-09-24 Thread Colin Stanners
Some SCADA systems run at like 115kbaud with -103db receive sensitivity in a 1mhz channel... that will survive a lot. On Sat, Sep 24, 2016 at 10:17 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote: > Depends on the system.. SCADA type radios have no problem with trees... > > On Sep 24, 2016 7:22 PM, "Adam Moffett" wro

[AFMUG] How the cell companies do nat?

2016-09-24 Thread TJ Trout
With all of the problems that we face as wisps with doing scaled nat behind a public IP ( Google capcha, PlayStation, blocks etc ) How are the cell companies (Verizon att etc) able to do nat on cellular handsets without having the same problems?

Re: [AFMUG] Krebs is back

2016-09-24 Thread Mike Hammett
Clear your DNS cache? Akamai was hosting it for free and they just couldn't justify hosting it for free anymore with a 620+ gb/s sustained (TCP from what I remember) attack. It's somewhere in Google now is all I know. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet

Re: [AFMUG] 900 MHz PMP450i :: Any real numbers?

2016-09-24 Thread Jaime Solorza
Depends on the system.. SCADA type radios have no problem with trees... On Sep 24, 2016 7:22 PM, "Adam Moffett" wrote: > Might be worth a shot I guess. Depends how strong your 900 is coming in. > > Attenuation is attenuation though...whether it's LTE or something else. > If the path literally

Re: [AFMUG] Krebs is back

2016-09-24 Thread Ken Hohhof
Still down for me. Maybe IP address changed and my DNS is stale? So is the story that Akamai/Cloudflare evicted his site after 600+ Gbps DDoS and Google offered to host it? From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Saturday, September 24, 2016 9:03 PM To: a

[AFMUG] Krebs is back

2016-09-24 Thread Mike Hammett
Krebs is back online via Google. http://krebsonsecurity.com/ - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP

Re: [AFMUG] Small PC for remote Troubleshooting

2016-09-24 Thread Adam Moffett
Wow, that's rad. and I haven't said anything was rad in about 20 years, so that really says something. -- Original Message -- From: "TJ Trout" To: af@afmug.com Sent: 9/24/2016 5:27:58 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Small PC for remote Troubleshooting http://www.tronsmart.com/products/t

Re: [AFMUG] 900 MHz PMP450i :: Any real numbers?

2016-09-24 Thread Adam Moffett
Might be worth a shot I guess. Depends how strong your 900 is coming in. Attenuation is attenuation though...whether it's LTE or something else. If the path literally passes through a mile of trees then I'm surprised even 900 works. -- Original Message -- From: "George Skorup" To

Re: [AFMUG] Throttling bandwidth over a gig

2016-09-24 Thread Jon Auer
I'm using Ciena 3930s as CPE for our customers with 10G ports and, for those that have subrate services, using them for shaping/policing. It's a switch targetted at carrier ethernet demarc so it has many useful QoS and OAM options. On Sat, Sep 24, 2016 at 1:10 PM, TJ Trout wrote: > What is the b

Re: [AFMUG] Billing system survey rehash

2016-09-24 Thread Simon Westlake
Ivan, you want to tackle this one? On 9/24/2016 5:36 PM, Lewis Bergman wrote: I didn't see the "how big of assholes are they" column. That would be really helpful. But otherwise a good comparison. On Sat, Sep 24, 2016, 4:48 PM Simon Westlake wrote: Ivan, Sorry for the mischaracte

Re: [AFMUG] Small PC for remote Troubleshooting

2016-09-24 Thread Simon Westlake
If you want something a little more powerful, I just bought one of these, put an SSD in it, and it's working pretty well: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883285369 There are tons of little PCs out now, from tiny ones on a stick to stuff like this HP and lots in between as

Re: [AFMUG] Small PC for remote Troubleshooting

2016-09-24 Thread Gino Villarini
very nice On Sat, Sep 24, 2016 at 5:27 PM, TJ Trout wrote: > http://www.tronsmart.com/products/tronsmart-ara-x5-plus > > On Sat, Sep 24, 2016 at 2:22 PM, Gino Villarini > wrote: > >> What you guys suggest for a remote displayless PC that we can use at >> remote sites for troubleshooting/remote

Re: [AFMUG] Small PC for remote Troubleshooting

2016-09-24 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
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Re: [AFMUG] Small PC for remote Troubleshooting

2016-09-24 Thread TJ Trout
http://www.tronsmart.com/products/tronsmart-ara-x5-plus On Sat, Sep 24, 2016 at 2:22 PM, Gino Villarini wrote: > What you guys suggest for a remote displayless PC that we can use at > remote sites for troubleshooting/remote access via 4g? > > Case is that sometimes its quicker for our engineers

[AFMUG] Small PC for remote Troubleshooting

2016-09-24 Thread Gino Villarini
What you guys suggest for a remote displayless PC that we can use at remote sites for troubleshooting/remote access via 4g? Case is that sometimes its quicker for our engineers to have remote access to equipment via a remote desktop session than going step by step with our field techs or tower cre

Re: [AFMUG] Throttling bandwidth over a gig

2016-09-24 Thread Paul Stewart
Policing or shaping ... switch or router ... depends on whether you want to be harsh or somewhat forgiving on capping the bandwidth ... routers do it better typically but really depends on your gear and where you want to apply it Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 24, 2016, at 2:20 PM, Jaime Solorza

Re: [AFMUG] 900 MHz PMP450i :: Any real numbers?

2016-09-24 Thread George Skorup
And what happens when the noise floor increases and the eNB can't hear those shitty CPEs anymore? Nevermind, that question answered itself. The boss keeps wanting to try an LTE sector at sites where we have a mile or more deep trees (where we know 900 FSK barely works now, not only due to powe

Re: [AFMUG] 24x7 coverage

2016-09-24 Thread Paul Stewart
Good question ... this would only be for a few things in particular. Dealing with network events/alerts, outages, escalations, and managed services primarily and also maintenance activity too Basically a third tier support group Thanks Paul Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 24, 2016, at 1

Re: [AFMUG] 900 MHz PMP450i :: Any real numbers?

2016-09-24 Thread Adam Moffett
They apparently do have a 5.1ghz versionor are working on one. I don't recall which. -- Original Message -- From: "Bill Prince" To: "Motorola III" Sent: 9/24/2016 1:39:17 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 900 MHz PMP450i :: Any real numbers? That would imply that it "should" work in othe

Re: [AFMUG] 24x7 coverage

2016-09-24 Thread Mark Radabaugh
If they are willing to pay the bill at 2:00am it’s OK with me - at least they paid. If they are not taking calls we have them deal with prepping new radios to go out the door, resetting and reprogramming returned equipment, going through the signal graphs looking for customers with issues, s

Re: [AFMUG] Throttling bandwidth over a gig

2016-09-24 Thread Jaime Solorza
Shut down his LAN port That works Lol.Can't you limit with Vlan On Sep 24, 2016 12:10 PM, "TJ Trout" wrote: > What is the best way to throttle a customer to a specific bandwidth > threshold when they are using over 1G of bandwidth? > > Should this be done at the switch? I have a feel

[AFMUG] Throttling bandwidth over a gig

2016-09-24 Thread TJ Trout
What is the best way to throttle a customer to a specific bandwidth threshold when they are using over 1G of bandwidth? Should this be done at the switch? I have a feeling that a simple queue probably won't work...

Re: [AFMUG] 900 MHz PMP450i :: Any real numbers?

2016-09-24 Thread Bill Prince
That would imply that it "should" work in other frequencies as well, such as 5 GHz and 2 GHz? bp On 9/24/2016 9:47 AM, Adam Moffett wrote: > It also has lower mod levels that let it operate right down to the > noise floor. And at least in theory you'll get more throughput than > you get in the

Re: [AFMUG] 900 MHz PMP450i :: Any real numbers?

2016-09-24 Thread Adam Moffett
In Wimax it's 4x4I'm pretty sure we'll have 4x4 in LTE as well, but I think feature was released only a month or so ago. We have a few places with split sectors, so we'll be able to compare to 2x2. From what I understand, LTE's frame structure is such that it can hang on to a crummy signa

Re: [AFMUG] 24x7 coverage

2016-09-24 Thread Ken Hohhof
Nope, but I’ve got a philosophical question for those who do. I know if customers find out they can call you at 2am, some will, just to pay their bill or ask opinions about buying a new computer. So is this fine with you, as long as you’re paying for 24x7 staff, might as well spread out the

[AFMUG] 24x7 coverage

2016-09-24 Thread Paul Stewart
Anyone on the list doing a manned 24x7 NOC themselves? I'm looking into some options and wrestling with shift length, schedules, number of people etc Thinking at moment of 10 hour shifts using 6 teams which allows for overlapping at busiest times of day Thanks Paul Sent from my iPhone

Re: [AFMUG] Conference Sessions Feedback

2016-09-24 Thread Jaime Solorza
Ha.. Mr Congeniality On Sep 24, 2016 6:14 AM, "Mike Hammett" wrote: > If you had attended those sessions, you'd know. ;-) > > > > - > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > >

Re: [AFMUG] Conference Sessions Feedback

2016-09-24 Thread Jeff Broadwick - Lists
I guess I was half right... :-) Jeff Broadwick ConVergence Technologies, Inc. 312-205-2519 Office 574-220-7826 Cell jbroadw...@converge-tech.com > On Sep 24, 2016, at 8:15 AM, Mike Hammett wrote: > > Well, the the feedback solicited would have been from the WISPAmerica > conference, to be use

Re: [AFMUG] Conference Sessions Feedback

2016-09-24 Thread Mike Hammett
Well, the the feedback solicited would have been from the WISPAmerica conference, to be used towards similar sessions at WISPAApalooza. ;-) - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Jeff Broad

Re: [AFMUG] Conference Sessions Feedback

2016-09-24 Thread Mike Hammett
If you had attended those sessions, you'd know. ;-) - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Paul Stewart" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Saturday, September 24, 2016 6:08:52 AM Subject: Re: [AFMU

Re: [AFMUG] Conference Sessions Feedback

2016-09-24 Thread Jeff Broadwick - Lists
Wispapalooza Jeff Broadwick ConVergence Technologies, Inc. 312-205-2519 Office 574-220-7826 Cell jbroadw...@converge-tech.com > On Sep 24, 2016, at 7:08 AM, Paul Stewart wrote: > > What conference? > >> On Sep 23, 2016, at 9:46 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: >> >> I am soliciting feedback from any

Re: [AFMUG] Conference Sessions Feedback

2016-09-24 Thread Paul Stewart
What conference? > On Sep 23, 2016, at 9:46 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: > > I am soliciting feedback from anyone that attended the Virtualization or > Bandwidth sessions this past spring. Onlist or offlist are fine. > > What would you look for in both? > > What would you look for in an automation

Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti AC client with Mimosa AP

2016-09-24 Thread Jason McKemie
Mimosa's can work with either. I was just hoping for some reciprocity. I understand manufacturers keying their APs to work with only their SM/SU/etc. The other way around just doesn't make any sense to me. On Friday, September 23, 2016, Josh Reynolds wrote: > Damned if you do, damned if you don'