Re: [AFMUG] Ammon City fiber

2016-10-31 Thread Lewis Bergman
That only takes a little while when you very good at it On Mon, Oct 31, 2016, 9:07 PM Jaime Solorza wrote: > Don't mayors keep busy groping, sextng, using private email servers , > building walls, servicing council members wives and collecting money from > speed traps? How could you be bored

Re: [AFMUG] PTP 60 miles 400Mbps

2016-10-31 Thread Jeremy
If you are already using AF5X, would this be a possibility?[image: Inline image 1] On Mon, Oct 31, 2016 at 8:00 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote: > We did a link from across the bay in Corpus Cristi with Tsunami 5Ghz > radios using 4 ft. Dishes using horizontal polarity. 5 story building on > one side

Re: [AFMUG] Ammon City fiber

2016-10-31 Thread Josh Reynolds
Not yet, they're still in training. Have to work your way up from the speed traps and voter polling place harassment. On Oct 31, 2016 9:07 PM, "Jaime Solorza" wrote: > Don't mayors keep busy groping, sextng, using private email servers , > building walls, servicing council members wives and co

Re: [AFMUG] Ammon City fiber

2016-10-31 Thread Jaime Solorza
Don't mayors keep busy groping, sextng, using private email servers , building walls, servicing council members wives and collecting money from speed traps? How could you be bored Lewis? On Oct 31, 2016 5:27 PM, "Lewis Bergman" wrote: > I'll reply only because I'm bored. > > On Mon, Oct 31, 2

Re: [AFMUG] PTP 60 miles 400Mbps

2016-10-31 Thread Jaime Solorza
We did a link from across the bay in Corpus Cristi with Tsunami 5Ghz radios using 4 ft. Dishes using horizontal polarity. 5 story building on one side and 120 ft. Tower at other side. These were 10mbps radios and we got almost 100% across. All the other links on same roof and other water as w

Re: [AFMUG] PTP 60 miles 400Mbps

2016-10-31 Thread Jeff Broadwick - Lists
Where is the link? If it's desert it's one thing. If it's Midwest it's another. Jeff Broadwick ConVergence Technologies, Inc. 312-205-2519 Office 574-220-7826 Cell jbroadw...@converge-tech.com > On Oct 31, 2016, at 8:10 PM, Charles Regan wrote: > > Hello everyone, > > What would you guys us

Re: [AFMUG] PTP 60 miles 400Mbps

2016-10-31 Thread Charles Regan
our Af5x link On Oct 31, 2016 10:32 PM, "Ken Hohhof" wrote: > Remember that the path analysis involves frequency, xmt power, rcv > sensitivity, antenna gain, and the rest is the RF path itself. I think you > might be focusing too much on the equipment. If the numbers don’t add up, > the equipm

Re: [AFMUG] Tesla powerwall 2

2016-10-31 Thread Charles Regan
We are using Meanwell TN3000, pure sine wave 3000W inverter charger. It has a solar plug too. Cost is 950$ Small sites has the 1500W version the the inverter and Winston 24v 60Ah lithium battery. On Oct 31, 2016 10:17 PM, "Adam Moffett" wrote: > 60% DOD is pretty conservative. Do you lose powe

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450m

2016-10-31 Thread Ken Hohhof
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alphonse_and_Gaston#/media/File:Alphonsegaston .jpg From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of SmarterBroadband Sent: Monday, October 31, 2016 7:39 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Cambium 450m Our first 450m should arrive this week. We plan to

Re: [AFMUG] PTP 60 miles 400Mbps

2016-10-31 Thread Ken Hohhof
Remember that the path analysis involves frequency, xmt power, rcv sensitivity, antenna gain, and the rest is the RF path itself. I think you might be focusing too much on the equipment. If the numbers don’t add up, the equipment will probably have only incremental effect on the results. I

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Sync AP only doing 10 meg

2016-10-31 Thread Josh Luthman
Well there was only one wrong, so... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Oct 31, 2016 at 4:01 PM, George Skorup wrote: > So what you're saying is... two wrongs make a right? > > On 10/31/2016 2:30 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: > > We

Re: [AFMUG] Powercode Customer Height

2016-10-31 Thread Josh Luthman
You're not setting customer height. You're looking at their path profile. If you want to set a height for say their equipment, you can do a custom field on the equipment itself. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Oct 31, 2016

Re: [AFMUG] Tesla powerwall 2

2016-10-31 Thread Adam Moffett
60% DOD is pretty conservative. Do you lose power a lot? Losing power at this site is somewhat of a hypothetical event. A Mack truck on the highway wiped out 5 poles and we ran on propane for a whole day. The previous outage was years before, and I don't expect another one for a few more ye

Re: [AFMUG] PTP 60 miles 400Mbps

2016-10-31 Thread Gino Villarini
SAF intergra with 60 ghz channels and some nice 8 ft dishes On Mon, Oct 31, 2016 at 8:59 PM, Charles Regan wrote: > 400Mbps in one direction. > > On Oct 31, 2016 9:52 PM, "David Milholen" wrote: > >> IS 400Mbs in one direction or both or aggregate? >> >> Budget is an issue for that size pipe on

Re: [AFMUG] PTP 60 miles 400Mbps

2016-10-31 Thread Charles Regan
400Mbps in one direction. On Oct 31, 2016 9:52 PM, "David Milholen" wrote: > IS 400Mbs in one direction or both or aggregate? > > Budget is an issue for that size pipe one way for sure. > > PTP820C 1+0 may do it at 6Ghz Spatial diversity for sure but pricing has > you. > > > > On 10/31/2016 7:10

Re: [AFMUG] PTP 60 miles 400Mbps

2016-10-31 Thread Charles Regan
1272ft and 347ft On Oct 31, 2016 9:48 PM, "Gino Villarini" wrote: > its doable under certain circumstances, what are your heights on both ends? > > On Mon, Oct 31, 2016 at 8:42 PM, TJ Trout wrote: > >> Your speed/distance/budget is unrealistic >> >> On Mon, Oct 31, 2016 at 5:39 PM, Cassidy B. L

Re: [AFMUG] Rocket M365

2016-10-31 Thread Mathew Howard
Yes, the AF3x definitely will do the whole 50mhz, and the Rockets definitely do not. On Oct 31, 2016 7:10 PM, "Josh Reynolds" wrote: > The AF3X does AFAIK, the M does not. > > On Oct 31, 2016 6:10 PM, "Gilbert T. Gutierrez, Jr." < > mailing-li...@phxinternet.com> wrote: > >> Does anyone know if

Re: [AFMUG] PTP 60 miles 400Mbps

2016-10-31 Thread David Milholen
IS 400Mbs in one direction or both or aggregate? Budget is an issue for that size pipe one way for sure. PTP820C 1+0 may do it at 6Ghz Spatial diversity for sure but pricing has you. On 10/31/2016 7:10 PM, Charles Regan wrote: Hello everyone, What would you guys use for a 60 miles PTP li

Re: [AFMUG] PTP 60 miles 400Mbps

2016-10-31 Thread Charles Regan
What's a realistic budget? 50k$ ? On Oct 31, 2016 9:42 PM, "TJ Trout" wrote: > Your speed/distance/budget is unrealistic > > On Mon, Oct 31, 2016 at 5:39 PM, Cassidy B. Larson > wrote: > >> Did SAF try 6GHz? Or did they only try 5GHz? >> Seems a 2+0 at 6 would probably work at that distance.. a

Re: [AFMUG] PTP 60 miles 400Mbps

2016-10-31 Thread Gino Villarini
its doable under certain circumstances, what are your heights on both ends? On Mon, Oct 31, 2016 at 8:42 PM, TJ Trout wrote: > Your speed/distance/budget is unrealistic > > On Mon, Oct 31, 2016 at 5:39 PM, Cassidy B. Larson > wrote: > >> Did SAF try 6GHz? Or did they only try 5GHz? >> Seems a 2

Re: [AFMUG] PTP 60 miles 400Mbps

2016-10-31 Thread TJ Trout
Your speed/distance/budget is unrealistic On Mon, Oct 31, 2016 at 5:39 PM, Cassidy B. Larson wrote: > Did SAF try 6GHz? Or did they only try 5GHz? > Seems a 2+0 at 6 would probably work at that distance.. although seawater > is a factor I dunno about > > > On Oct 31, 2016, at 18:32, Charles Rega

Re: [AFMUG] PTP 60 miles 400Mbps

2016-10-31 Thread Cassidy B. Larson
Did SAF try 6GHz? Or did they only try 5GHz? Seems a 2+0 at 6 would probably work at that distance.. although seawater is a factor I dunno about > On Oct 31, 2016, at 18:32, Charles Regan wrote: > > Well here's SAF response: > My link planning team confirmed SAF does not have a viable 5GHz rad

[AFMUG] Cambium 450m

2016-10-31 Thread SmarterBroadband
Our first 450m should arrive this week. We plan to replace an existing 450 AP that has 66 customers for our first deployment. However, I do not want to do this until I have heard that there are some installed and working. Does anyone have 450m up and running. Would you please share your

Re: [AFMUG] PTP 60 miles 400Mbps

2016-10-31 Thread Charles Regan
Well here's SAF response: *My link planning team confirmed SAF does not have a viable 5GHz radio that can achieve your objective for this path.* Trango: *rough calculation suggests that even using space diversity will yield a 3 - 4 'nines' link (predicted reliability) at around 200Mbps FDX. The u

Re: [AFMUG] PTP 60 miles 400Mbps

2016-10-31 Thread Eric Kuhnke
20k? SIAE AlfoPlus2 6 GHz 1024QAM dual polarity link. Or two pairs of alfoplus1 1024qam (single polarity) radios running in parallel, opposite polarities, equal OSPF cost between routers. Or Trango's 1024QAM 6GHz radios. Why not SAF? I thought there was a 6 GHz version of the Integra now. On

Re: [AFMUG] Rocket M365

2016-10-31 Thread Josh Reynolds
The AF3X does AFAIK, the M does not. On Oct 31, 2016 6:10 PM, "Gilbert T. Gutierrez, Jr." < mailing-li...@phxinternet.com> wrote: > Does anyone know if the 3.65 product from UBNT supports the full 3.65 > band? 3.65-3.70... The data sheet only shows the lower half. > > Gilbert > >

[AFMUG] PTP 60 miles 400Mbps

2016-10-31 Thread Charles Regan
Hello everyone, What would you guys use for a 60 miles PTP link? 400Mbps. Oh and it's over seawater... 20k$ budget. SAF, Trango both said sorry, can't do. Mimosa B5C with space diversity and 3k$ maybe. We do have a working AF5x with a 34dbi dish doing 150Mbps aggregate. The link gets bad sometim

Re: [AFMUG] Rocket M365

2016-10-31 Thread George Skorup
Lower 25MHz is all you get in FCC land. It was never certified for the upper 25. On 10/31/2016 6:10 PM, Gilbert T. Gutierrez, Jr. wrote: Does anyone know if the 3.65 product from UBNT supports the full 3.65 band? 3.65-3.70... The data sheet only shows the lower half. Gilbert

Re: [AFMUG] Ammon City fiber

2016-10-31 Thread Lewis Bergman
I'll reply only because I'm bored. On Mon, Oct 31, 2016, 5:15 PM wrote: > Lewis Bergman wrote: > >>> I rail against these types of projects not because they typically > fail, which they do, > >> That's the second time you make that claim. Could you please back this > up with some sources? > >Do

[AFMUG] Rocket M365

2016-10-31 Thread Gilbert T. Gutierrez, Jr.
Does anyone know if the 3.65 product from UBNT supports the full 3.65 band? 3.65-3.70... The data sheet only shows the lower half. Gilbert

Re: [AFMUG] Tesla powerwall 2

2016-10-31 Thread Peter Kranz
This was my thinking as well.. With my AGM setups I’m not comfortable pushing beyond 60% DOD.. I’m also paying a lot for 10-year rated large Ah AGM batteries these days. Peter Kranz www.UnwiredLtd.com Desk: 510-868-1614 x100 Mobile: 510-207-

Re: [AFMUG] Ammon City fiber

2016-10-31 Thread Chuck McCown
I personally know of one telco that is in bankruptcy because the RUS will not bail them out. They could not make their loan payments, they filed chapter 11. The RUS is hoping someone will buy the telco that will make the payments. Otherwise it will be sold at auction. -Original Message-

Re: [AFMUG] Ammon City fiber

2016-10-31 Thread fiberrun
Lewis Bergman wrote: >>> I rail against these types of projects not because they typically fail, >>> which they do, >>  That's the second time you make that claim. Could you please back this up >>with some sources? >Do you mind enlightening us with all the tales of success and glory? Excellent d

Re: [AFMUG] Ammon City fiber

2016-10-31 Thread Lewis Bergman
I am definitely guilty of lack of empathy. That kind of reminds me of a development I was involved in 18 months ago. Most all the people adjacent to the land we were developing didn't want anything on it. Really? You can't afford to buy it but you think the one who owns should be forced to provide

Re: [AFMUG] Ammon City fiber

2016-10-31 Thread Robert
Very similar to Arizona around Chandler with all the milk cow farms.. Then the retirement communities were built.. The smell on a calm morning was memorable.. But in that case the farmers told the retirees to stuff it.. Until the land was so valuable that the farmers made more moving...

Re: [AFMUG] Ammon City fiber

2016-10-31 Thread Mike Hammett
You can't fix stupid. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Chuck McCown" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, October 31, 2016 4:35:16 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Ammon City fiber I live in

Re: [AFMUG] Ammon City fiber

2016-10-31 Thread Chuck McCown
I live in a semi-rural area. Used to be rural until land developers added subdivisions. I was one of those developers. Now, we have city folks coming out, buying a 5 acre ranchette and are complaining about farming noises, & ranching smells. They don’t think you should have the right to c

Re: [AFMUG] Tesla powerwall 2

2016-10-31 Thread Mathew Howard
Figuring those prices, you're not going to end up too far off from the price of the Tesla for the same run time. Tripling the batteries will put you up to somewhere around $4500, for basically the same kWh, but if you factor in being able to 100% discharge the Tesla setup, you're going to need to a

Re: [AFMUG] Ammon City fiber

2016-10-31 Thread Jason McKemie
> > Who cares? Really...who cares. They chose to live somewhere without > internet. You want internet, move somewhere with it. Your job isn't there? > OK, guess you get to use internet when you visit the kids in the big city. > So you don't have internet. Who gives a damn? I am pretty sure oxygen s

Re: [AFMUG] OT - grow tent?

2016-10-31 Thread Jaime Solorza
He actually said, para-translating, " no there are no issues with my businesses, they are all so clean they shine, squeaky clean... he used "brillan ..." ... back in my Tornillo ISD gig days, the local laundry mat place was busted as a drug money laundering operation along with a bakery and tract

Re: [AFMUG] OT - grow tent?

2016-10-31 Thread Lewis Bergman
What was it? "Not even a hint of corruption" On Mon, Oct 31, 2016 at 3:23 PM Jaime Solorza wrote: > " nope..all my businesses are squeaky clean, " quoting an > ex-politician across border years back > > Jaime Solorza > Wireless Systems Architect > 915-861-1390 <(915)%20861-1390> > > On Mon,

Re: [AFMUG] OT - grow tent?

2016-10-31 Thread Jaime Solorza
" nope..all my businesses are squeaky clean, " quoting an ex-politician across border years back Jaime Solorza Wireless Systems Architect 915-861-1390 On Mon, Oct 31, 2016 at 2:19 PM, Robert wrote: > That sounds like money laundering... > > On 10/31/16 1:15 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: > > You c

Re: [AFMUG] OT - grow tent?

2016-10-31 Thread Robert
That sounds like money laundering... On 10/31/16 1:15 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: You could probably have a separate staffing company for your payroll employees. Pay it in cash and they could probably do normal banking. *From:* Lewis Bergman *Sent:* Monday, October 31, 2016 2:13 PM *To:* af@afmug

Re: [AFMUG] OT - grow tent?

2016-10-31 Thread Jaime Solorza
don't criticizelegalize.in my best Jamaican accent Jaime Solorza Wireless Systems Architect 915-861-1390 On Mon, Oct 31, 2016 at 2:15 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: > You could probably have a separate staffing company for your payroll > employees. Pay it in cash and they could probably do n

Re: [AFMUG] OT - grow tent?

2016-10-31 Thread Chuck McCown
You could probably have a separate staffing company for your payroll employees. Pay it in cash and they could probably do normal banking. From: Lewis Bergman Sent: Monday, October 31, 2016 2:13 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT - grow tent? I saw another in depth story on one of t

Re: [AFMUG] OT - grow tent?

2016-10-31 Thread Lewis Bergman
I saw another in depth story on one of the news channels that was very close to your gold story. I assume they actually did convert some of the cash assets to precious metals for storage reasons. They showed video of the huge safes they had at each of their three very large warehouse locations fill

Re: [AFMUG] Tesla powerwall 2

2016-10-31 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 10/31/16 11:14, Peter Kranz wrote: The new tesla powerwall 2 appears to be an interesting UPS option now that it has a build in inverter/charger. 14kWh for $5500, so would run most of my sites for about 24 hours. When I backed out the costs for 14kWh of our standard AGM cells and inverter, I t

Re: [AFMUG] Ammon City fiber

2016-10-31 Thread Lewis Bergman
On Mon, Oct 31, 2016 at 11:23 AM wrote: > Lewis Bergman wrote: > > I rail against these types of projects not because they typically fail, > which they do, > That's the second time you make that claim. Could you please back this > up with some sources? > Do you mind enlightening us with all the

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Sync AP only doing 10 meg

2016-10-31 Thread George Skorup
So what you're saying is... two wrongs make a right? On 10/31/2016 2:30 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: Well it was right...then it was swappedthen righted! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Oct 31, 2016 at 2:02 PM, Bill Prince

Re: [AFMUG] Tesla powerwall 2

2016-10-31 Thread Chuck McCown
Ha, so quick to read, so quick to forget I honestly did not notice the link. From: Adam Moffett Sent: Monday, October 31, 2016 1:51 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Tesla powerwall 2 That's the same link I sent earlier, bro. $3049 is list priceyou'll pay closer to $2500 - $260

Re: [AFMUG] Tired of looking at it

2016-10-31 Thread Chuck McCown
OK, telsa coil is in. -Original Message- From: Seth Mattinen Sent: Monday, October 31, 2016 1:19 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Tired of looking at it On 10/31/16 12:15, Cameron Crum wrote: I'm just curious if you actually work with test tubes and pipettes when designing sur

Re: [AFMUG] Tesla powerwall 2

2016-10-31 Thread Adam Moffett
That's the same link I sent earlier, bro. $3049 is list priceyou'll pay closer to $2500 - $2600. On 10/31/2016 3:47 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: This looks like it: http://www.aimscorp.net/12000-Watt-Inverter-Charger-48-volt-120-240vac.html $3409/12000=28.4 cents per watt. Not too bad consideri

Re: [AFMUG] Tesla powerwall 2

2016-10-31 Thread Chuck McCown
This looks like it: http://www.aimscorp.net/12000-Watt-Inverter-Charger-48-volt-120-240vac.html $3409/12000=28.4 cents per watt. Not too bad considering there is a battery charger in there. From: Adam Moffett Sent: Monday, October 31, 2016 1:01 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Tesla p

Re: [AFMUG] Powercode Customer Height

2016-10-31 Thread Steve
Dang that is not good. I generally don't work on the wireless side but you'd think we'd be able to set the customer height. Around here many people have 48ft and in some cases 60ft towers for TV that we use. It makes a lot of difference. - Original Message - From: "Josh Luthman" T

Re: [AFMUG] Tired of looking at it

2016-10-31 Thread Chuck McCown
Not sure I still have any of those sondes around. The potting looked like beeswax in color. Hard plastic. Not brittle. Tried: Acetone Gasoline MEK Paint thinner Paint remover Alcohol Xylene Water Propylene Freon Mold cleaner trichlorobenzine (or whatever dry cleaning fluid used to be) Strong

Re: [AFMUG] Tesla powerwall 2

2016-10-31 Thread Adam Moffett
Oh, I think we added a ground wire to the sub panel after this picture was taken. The inverter/charger only sends hot and neutral to the sub panel. On 10/31/2016 3:35 PM, Adam Moffett wrote: Yeah it charges whenever A/C input is present.� It has a 5 stage charger I think.� The manual h

Re: [AFMUG] Tired of looking at it

2016-10-31 Thread Chuck McCown
Got it. Thanks. -Original Message- From: Sam Morris Sent: Monday, October 31, 2016 1:35 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Tired of looking at it http://www.surge-suppression.org/surge-suppressor-history First paragraph, fourth sentence. On 10/31/2016 2:33 PM, Chuck McCown

Re: [AFMUG] Tired of looking at it

2016-10-31 Thread Ken Hohhof
I’ve had a mason jar labelled “M-Pyrol” in my basement since around 1985 that I got from a vendor for dissolving the potting compound on thickfilm hybrid circuits. Probably not good anymore, not sure how to dispose of it. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown Se

Re: [AFMUG] Tired of looking at it

2016-10-31 Thread Sam Morris
http://www.surge-suppression.org/surge-suppressor-history First paragraph, fourth sentence. On 10/31/2016 2:33 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: I searched for lightening and didn't find any. In any event, always happy to hear of any punctuation, grammer, usage, spelling etc issues. -Original Messag

Re: [AFMUG] Tesla powerwall 2

2016-10-31 Thread Adam Moffett
Yeah it charges whenever A/C input is present. It has a 5 stage charger I think. The manual has a lot of detail on that. We got it from some vendor on Amazon. The biggest drawback in my mind is there's no network connectivity. On 10/31/2016 3:29 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: Does the inverter ch

[AFMUG] Fw: Tired of looking at it

2016-10-31 Thread Chuck McCown
Make that grammar... sheesh... -Original Message- From: Chuck McCown Sent: Monday, October 31, 2016 1:33 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Tired of looking at it I searched for lightening and didn't find any. In any event, always happy to hear of any punctuation, grammer, us

Re: [AFMUG] Tired of looking at it

2016-10-31 Thread Ken Hohhof
I want a video of Chuck dancing in a Faraday cage to the musical Tesla coils, like Adam Savage. -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Seth Mattinen Sent: Monday, October 31, 2016 2:19 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Tired of looking at it On 10/3

Re: [AFMUG] Tired of looking at it

2016-10-31 Thread Chuck McCown
I searched for lightening and didn't find any. In any event, always happy to hear of any punctuation, grammer, usage, spelling etc issues. -Original Message- From: Sam Morris Sent: Monday, October 31, 2016 1:18 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Tired of looking at it Chuck, ar

Re: [AFMUG] Powercode Customer Height

2016-10-31 Thread Josh Luthman
Are you talking about the path profile tool? Pretty sure that 20 foot is a default for all customers. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Oct 31, 2016 at 3:24 PM, Steve wrote: > I can't for the life of me find out where in the

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Sync AP only doing 10 meg

2016-10-31 Thread Josh Luthman
Well it was right...then it was swappedthen righted! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Oct 31, 2016 at 2:02 PM, Bill Prince wrote: > Too many designers miss this important detail. > > > bp > > > > On 10/31/2016 11:00 AM,

Re: [AFMUG] Tesla powerwall 2

2016-10-31 Thread Chuck McCown
Does the inverter charge the batts? I presume so. Where did you get the inverter? From: Adam Moffett Sent: Monday, October 31, 2016 1:26 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Tesla powerwall 2 I ran 6/3 armored with ground between each device.� There are 1/2" knockouts on the connectio

Re: [AFMUG] Tired of looking at it

2016-10-31 Thread Chuck McCown
Yeah, better than a photo of my mug. Actually there have been a few times when I did work with test tubes. Trying to melt off the potting compound from the transmitter used in horizontal directional drilling machines. I never did find a solvent or other compound that would dissolve that plastic.

Re: [AFMUG] Tired of looking at it

2016-10-31 Thread Chuck McCown
Sure, I am always typing lightening by accident. -Original Message- From: Sam Morris Sent: Monday, October 31, 2016 1:18 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Tired of looking at it Chuck, are you interested in hearing about typos as well, or just the general feel and look of t

Re: [AFMUG] Tired of looking at it

2016-10-31 Thread Chuck McCown
Ohhh, I like that idea. -Original Message- From: Seth Mattinen Sent: Monday, October 31, 2016 1:19 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Tired of looking at it On 10/31/16 12:15, Cameron Crum wrote: I'm just curious if you actually work with test tubes and pipettes when designing s

Re: [AFMUG] OT. Party Time

2016-10-31 Thread Cameron Crum
Yeah...I have some in that picture! On Mon, Oct 31, 2016 at 10:58 AM, Paul Stewart wrote: > Hmmm.. not sure but did you do something different with your hair? > > ;) > > > On Oct 31, 2016, at 9:53 AM, Cameron Crum wrote: > > Nice! We had similar ideas. > > > > On Sun, Oct 30, 2016 at 12:08 AM,

Re: [AFMUG] Tesla powerwall 2

2016-10-31 Thread Adam Moffett
I ran 6/3 armored with ground between each device. There are 1/2" knockouts on the connection box on the inverter/charger so I bought a couple of BX connectors. It comes with romex type clamps.I used armored because I don't think it would be legit to run Romex on top of a finished wall.

[AFMUG] Powercode Customer Height

2016-10-31 Thread Steve
I can't for the life of me find out where in the database it stores the customer height. When you do an elevation profile it automatically fills in 20ft. However we have some customers with much larger towers. So some of the elevation profiles are skewed a bit. Plus we are adding functionali

Re: [AFMUG] Tired of looking at it

2016-10-31 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 10/31/16 12:15, Cameron Crum wrote: I'm just curious if you actually work with test tubes and pipettes when designing surge protectors? Or is that just to make it look all "sciency"? Put in a picture of a Tesla coil.

Re: [AFMUG] Tired of looking at it

2016-10-31 Thread Sam Morris
Chuck, are you interested in hearing about typos as well, or just the general feel and look of the site? (I saw a couple, but when I came across "lightening" I thought I should say something since that's intrinsic to the purpose of the site...) :) Sam On 10/31/2016 2:12 PM, Chuck McCown wrot

Re: [AFMUG] Tired of looking at it

2016-10-31 Thread Cameron Crum
I'm just curious if you actually work with test tubes and pipettes when designing surge protectors? Or is that just to make it look all "sciency"? On Mon, Oct 31, 2016 at 2:12 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: > Got it, thanks. > > I am hopeful the schematics and images all look good on phones and other >

Re: [AFMUG] OT - grow tent?

2016-10-31 Thread Chuck McCown
Yeah I guess the banks get crosswise with federal regulators if they knowingly do business with a pot operation. So, I guess the pot operators all need really big car washes. From: Nate Burke Sent: Monday, October 31, 2016 1:10 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT - grow tent? So m

Re: [AFMUG] Tired of looking at it

2016-10-31 Thread Chuck McCown
Got it, thanks. I am hopeful the schematics and images all look good on phones and other devices. I am only using a normal desktop with a very large screen. I have never done a web page before where I worried about all the devices. -Original Message- From: Larry Smith Sent: Monday,

Re: [AFMUG] OT - grow tent?

2016-10-31 Thread Nate Burke
So my facts may be a little wrong, cuz I heard this from a guy who heard it from a guy. Although there is profit to be had, it's hard to get at. He described a pot sales operation in Colorado, where although it is legal to sell it in the state, it is illegal on the national level, so he can't

Re: [AFMUG] Tired of looking at it

2016-10-31 Thread Jaime Solorza
clean...me like Jaime Solorza Wireless Systems Architect 915-861-1390 On Mon, Oct 31, 2016 at 1:00 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: > A good friend of mine makes a good living as a marketing consultant to > folks doing online sales etc. I have hired him to consult a few times over > the years. Lately

Re: [AFMUG] Tired of looking at it

2016-10-31 Thread Larry Smith
Looks good, only comment is the first line of the third paragraph: "the response was from the group was" probably should be "the response from the group was"... -- Larry Smith lesm...@ecsis.net On Mon October 31 2016 14:00, Chuck McCown wrote: > A good friend of mine makes a good living as a mar

Re: [AFMUG] OT - grow tent?

2016-10-31 Thread Bill Prince
One of the things they mentioned is that the county that operation is in (Pueblo County I think) has a measure on the ballot that would outlaw his operation. He said that law would put him out of business. Good bye $20 million gross. bp On 10/31/2016 12:04 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: So, roughly

Re: [AFMUG] OT - grow tent?

2016-10-31 Thread Chuck McCown
So, roughly $1K/plant. Maybe I will move to Colorado when I retire. Gardening is easy, right? From: Bill Prince Sent: Monday, October 31, 2016 1:01 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT - grow tent? 60 Minutes did a little overview of the implementation of the pot law in Colorado last

Re: [AFMUG] Tesla powerwall 2

2016-10-31 Thread Chuck McCown
12 kw? Sine wave? How is it wired in with the transfer switch and mains power? From: Adam Moffett Sent: Monday, October 31, 2016 1:01 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Tesla powerwall 2 http://www.aimscorp.net/12000-Watt-Inverter-Charger-48-volt-120-240vac.html This has a street price

Re: [AFMUG] OT - grow tent?

2016-10-31 Thread Bill Prince
60 Minutes did a little overview of the implementation of the pot law in Colorado last night. They interviewed one guy doing an operation on 36 acres. He grows ~~ 22,000 plants, and grosses $20 million per year. Each plant has an RFID tag on it. Interesting stuff. I noticed that they also emplo

Re: [AFMUG] Tesla powerwall 2

2016-10-31 Thread Adam Moffett
http://www.aimscorp.net/12000-Watt-Inverter-Charger-48-volt-120-240vac.html This has a street price of $2500. The four SLA batteries were (I think) $160 each. The 3/0 battery cable was not free, but I don't remember what it cost. This is only 4800 Wh, but it's trivial to add more/bigger bat

[AFMUG] Tired of looking at it

2016-10-31 Thread Chuck McCown
A good friend of mine makes a good living as a marketing consultant to folks doing online sales etc. I have hired him to consult a few times over the years. Lately he said that I need other content, a blog or social media or something that provides expert content. He says that people need to

Re: [AFMUG] OT - grow tent?

2016-10-31 Thread Nate Burke
Nothing like that that I've seen on the ballat. Just a Constitutional amendment that says the legislature has to actually spend money on what they say they're going to spend it on. (They can't use the Road Tax for whatever they feel like) On 10/31/2016 1:50 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: Once pot i

Re: [AFMUG] OT - grow tent?

2016-10-31 Thread Jaime Solorza
More money in growing, cough, herbs On Oct 31, 2016 12:48 PM, "Ken Hohhof" wrote: > Somehow the Internet decided this was something I would be interested in. > I’m always seeing ads for stuff discussed on this list, so I’m blaming it > on you guys. > > > > https://www.1000bulbs.com/product/15433

Re: [AFMUG] OT - grow tent?

2016-10-31 Thread Chuck McCown
Once pot is legalized in Illinois, you can move your operation from the grow tent to the grow room. (Do you guys have any pot bills on the ballot)? From: Ken Hohhof Sent: Monday, October 31, 2016 12:48 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] OT - grow tent? Somehow the Internet decided this wa

Re: [AFMUG] Tesla powerwall 2

2016-10-31 Thread Chuck McCown
If you don’t consider the 100% depth of discharge, it seems a bit spendy. I can get inverters for about 20 cents per watt. Batts for 15 cents per watt hour. If I was going to build a 14 kWh/5500 kW inverter setup, I think I could do it for $3200 but as Bill pointed out, I will ruin my batts if

[AFMUG] OT - grow tent?

2016-10-31 Thread Ken Hohhof
Somehow the Internet decided this was something I would be interested in. I'm always seeing ads for stuff discussed on this list, so I'm blaming it on you guys. https://www.1000bulbs.com/product/154338/SUN-70.html Put one at a tower site, have a nice, well-lighted work environment, and

[AFMUG] Tesla powerwall 2

2016-10-31 Thread Peter Kranz
The new tesla powerwall 2 appears to be an interesting UPS option now that it has a build in inverter/charger. 14kWh for $5500, so would run most of my sites for about 24 hours. When I backed out the costs for 14kWh of our standard AGM cells and inverter, I think this price is quite reasonable.

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Sync AP only doing 10 meg

2016-10-31 Thread Bill Prince
Too many designers miss this important detail. bp On 10/31/2016 11:00 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: On an important note, Rev B has the RJ45 facing the correct way - the tab is out for you to get to it YAY!

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Sync AP only doing 10 meg

2016-10-31 Thread Josh Luthman
I remember BBDGE but I don't remember a bbdne at all. On an important note, Rev B has the RJ45 facing the correct way - the tab is out for you to get to it YAY! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Oct 28, 2016 at 4:03 PM, T

Re: [AFMUG] Changes coming

2016-10-31 Thread Bill Prince
Some tax game going on too. From the article: Level 3 will help trim CenturyLink’s tax bill by adding nearly $10 billion of accumulated net operating losses to its balance sheet. Level 3 racked up massive losses for most of its history, as heavy infrastructure costs outstripped its se

Re: [AFMUG] Changes coming

2016-10-31 Thread Josh Reynolds
Level3 has been garbage for awhile now. Too many large (sometimes nation wide) outages. Sometimes data, sometimes voice, sometimes both. A lot of "legacy" Time Warner customers are miserable, as they've had more outages since the acquisition than prior to it. http://fuckinglevel3.com/ On Oct 31,

Re: [AFMUG] Changes coming

2016-10-31 Thread Chuck McCown
CL has been pretty heavy handed in other acquisitions. So much so that many of the Qwest people still refer to themselves as legacy employees and have their own faction going. -Original Message- From: Travis Johnson Sent: Monday, October 31, 2016 11:30 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [A

[AFMUG] Changes coming

2016-10-31 Thread Travis Johnson
I wonder how this will affect everything... http://www.wsj.com/articles/centurylink-to-buy-level-3-communications-for-25-billion-1477911639 I know a lot of people use and love Level3, but absolutely hate Centurylink. Travis

Re: [AFMUG] Ammon City fiber

2016-10-31 Thread Mike Hammett
I believe so. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Ken Hohhof" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, October 31, 2016 11:53:31 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Ammon City fiber Do they still have

Re: [AFMUG] Dumb ePMP question of the day

2016-10-31 Thread Mathew Howard
I was going to say wrong key, but it occurred to me that they normally say something like "rejected - invalid key" when that happens. I think we have Radius, WPA2 and Open all checked on all of ours (which are all only actually using WPA2) , so I don't see how that could be doing it. On Mon, Oct 3

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