Re: [AFMUG] VOIP Legality Canada

2016-12-12 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
Define "host" On Dec 12, 2016 9:00 AM, "Steve" wrote: > Thanks that's exactly what I was looking for. I remembered there were 3 > things we needed - one of them was registering ourselves as a carrier for > it. Thanks again. > > - Original Message - > From: "Paul

Re: [AFMUG] Easiest VPN on mikrotik

2016-12-12 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
So, I'm getting the general consensus is there is no general consensus and end users configuring their client is simple as long as they are sysadmins On Dec 12, 2016 5:46 PM, "Chris Wright" wrote: > It took me about an hour of trial-and-error to come to that conclusion a >

[AFMUG] More set me straight: 3ghz

2016-12-12 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
We finished another 3ghz demo site with 450. We only have maybe 15 subs at 12/2 but if you saw the plot on this 90, you would smack me, we side loved, backlobe nlos, and short los with a reflectored this thing. I made sure to beat the he'll out of the rd, and everybody is running like champs no

[AFMUG] Somebody set me straight on "smart antennas"

2016-12-12 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
We are deploying epmp 2000 on the old antennas. my network is designed around them, and we are going network wide. there is a floating budget for the smart ones if general industry response is unicorn farts and Jesus climaxes. I would put them out today, but lightning has always been my sleepless

Re: [AFMUG] Network Equipment Config Backups

2016-12-12 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
Solar winds pricing is like when your income goes from upper lower class to lower middle class, everything goes from affordable but minimal, to unaffordable but required. On Dec 12, 2016 7:32 PM, "Paul Stewart" wrote: Yeah for Solarwinds, it’s not cheap but it’s not

Re: [AFMUG] It: politics

2016-12-12 Thread Josh Reynolds
Yeeehh. +1 On Dec 12, 2016 8:38 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" wrote: > I had to share this, as it's pretty applicable >

[AFMUG] It: politics

2016-12-12 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
I had to share this, as it's pretty applicable

Re: [AFMUG] Network Equipment Config Backups

2016-12-12 Thread George Skorup
I was setting up Oxidized (drop-in RANCID replacement) for our MikroTiks a few weeks ago, but never finished it. On 12/12/2016 2:57 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote: reviving an old thread I put our beta on the network, within 5 minutes of downloading, every device we want backups for is

Re: [AFMUG] Network Equipment Config Backups

2016-12-12 Thread Paul Stewart
Yeah for Solarwinds, it’s not cheap but it’s not stupidly expensive neither … in comparison to the words “BMC” and “Remedy” ;) > On Dec 12, 2016, at 8:08 PM, Josh Baird wrote: > > Sorry - you were probably referring to BMC, not Solarwinds. > > BMC, last time I looked,

Re: [AFMUG] Network Equipment Config Backups

2016-12-12 Thread Josh Baird
Sorry - you were probably referring to BMC, not Solarwinds. BMC, last time I looked, was indeed stupid expensive. > On Dec 12, 2016, at 8:03 PM, Josh Baird wrote: > > Not for a large 'enterprise,' and the required horsepower really isn't *that* > bad for NPM/NCM/NFA. >

Re: [AFMUG] Network Equipment Config Backups

2016-12-12 Thread Josh Reynolds
Not counting the Remedy hooks... On Dec 12, 2016 7:06 PM, "Josh Reynolds" wrote: > $xx,xxx,xxx.xx > > :/ > > On Dec 12, 2016 7:03 PM, "Josh Baird" wrote: > >> Not for a large 'enterprise,' and the required horsepower really isn't >> *that* bad for

Re: [AFMUG] Network Equipment Config Backups

2016-12-12 Thread Josh Reynolds
$xx,xxx,xxx.xx :/ On Dec 12, 2016 7:03 PM, "Josh Baird" wrote: > Not for a large 'enterprise,' and the required horsepower really isn't > *that* bad for NPM/NCM/NFA. > > On Dec 12, 2016, at 7:49 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote: > > Stupid $ :( > > On Dec 12,

Re: [AFMUG] Network Equipment Config Backups

2016-12-12 Thread Josh Baird
Not for a large 'enterprise,' and the required horsepower really isn't *that* bad for NPM/NCM/NFA. > On Dec 12, 2016, at 7:49 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote: > > Stupid $ :( > >> On Dec 12, 2016 6:24 PM, "Paul Stewart" wrote: >> Very cool! >> >> >>> On

Re: [AFMUG] Network Equipment Config Backups

2016-12-12 Thread Josh Reynolds
Stupid $ :( On Dec 12, 2016 6:24 PM, "Paul Stewart" wrote: > Very cool! > > > On Dec 12, 2016, at 7:20 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote: > > Sounds similar to our pending NMS... > > BMC TrueSight spread across around 8,000 VMs + netapps + infra. > > On Dec

Re: [AFMUG] Network Equipment Config Backups

2016-12-12 Thread Mike Hammett
Anything Solarwinds is probably in a different cost category than Unimus. ;-) - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Paul Stewart" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Monday,

Re: [AFMUG] Network Equipment Config Backups

2016-12-12 Thread Paul Stewart
Very cool! > On Dec 12, 2016, at 7:20 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote: > > Sounds similar to our pending NMS... > > BMC TrueSight spread across around 8,000 VMs + netapps + infra. > > On Dec 12, 2016 6:14 PM, "Paul Stewart"

Re: [AFMUG] Network Equipment Config Backups

2016-12-12 Thread Josh Reynolds
Sounds similar to our pending NMS... BMC TrueSight spread across around 8,000 VMs + netapps + infra. On Dec 12, 2016 6:14 PM, "Paul Stewart" wrote: > It really depends …. so in our case, it’s running a dedicated web > interface and a pair of pollers. The SQL backend is

Re: [AFMUG] Network Equipment Config Backups

2016-12-12 Thread Paul Stewart
It really depends …. so in our case, it’s running a dedicated web interface and a pair of pollers. The SQL backend is clustered serving other systems besides just Solarwinds - it’s a *large* cluster running MS SQL Enterprise and NetApp SAN…. it was already existing for other internal systems

Re: [AFMUG] UBNT Airfiber 24HD Mount more downtilt?

2016-12-12 Thread Josh Reynolds
Yep. SWS in Alaska has around 40 AF24 links. Ring topology with some spokes and other ptp. On Dec 12, 2016 4:35 PM, "Mathew Howard" wrote: > Sync would only apply if they're running half duplex... if they're in full > duplex mode, you accomplish the same thing by just

Re: [AFMUG] Network Equipment Config Backups

2016-12-12 Thread Josh Reynolds
How big of a windows server farm does it take to scale that thing horizontally? On Dec 12, 2016 5:49 PM, "Paul Stewart" wrote: > Rancid at moment - moving to Solarwinds NCM which does pretty much the > same but with a whole bunch of reporting and compliance options, plus >

Re: [AFMUG] Network Equipment Config Backups

2016-12-12 Thread Paul Stewart
Rancid at moment - moving to Solarwinds NCM which does pretty much the same but with a whole bunch of reporting and compliance options, plus integration with existing network monitoring > On Dec 12, 2016, at 3:57 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm > wrote: > > reviving an

[AFMUG] OT a nice thing to see

2016-12-12 Thread Chuck McCown
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oIXpegO7nHo

Re: [AFMUG] Easiest VPN on mikrotik

2016-12-12 Thread Chris Wright
It took me about an hour of trial-and-error to come to that conclusion a few months ago. ☹ Glad someone else might benefit from it and save them from the headache I got! Chris Wright Network Administrator From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of George Skorup Sent: Monday, December

Re: [AFMUG] Network Equipment Config Backups

2016-12-12 Thread Chris Wright
It’s all about Utilikilt’s these days. Chris Wright Network Administrator From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown Sent: Monday, December 12, 2016 1:41 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Network Equipment Config Backups Only when I go clubbing after a fresh wax.

Re: [AFMUG] UBNT Airfiber 24HD Mount more downtilt?

2016-12-12 Thread Mathew Howard
Sync would only apply if they're running half duplex... if they're in full duplex mode, you accomplish the same thing by just using the same tx channel. On Mon, Dec 12, 2016 at 4:31 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote: > Yes you can GPS synch them. Likely don't need to though, as long

Re: [AFMUG] UBNT Airfiber 24HD Mount more downtilt?

2016-12-12 Thread Josh Reynolds
Yes you can GPS synch them. Likely don't need to though, as long as tx is the same. On Dec 12, 2016 3:53 PM, "Sterling Jacobson" wrote: > I've got an Airfiber 24HD on a rohn tower on top of a mountain that needs > more downtilt than it allows. > > The Rohn is pretty thin,

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Buying or Selling UBNT stock

2016-12-12 Thread Dave
Duck! here it comes :) On 12/12/2016 03:19 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: A couple questions: 1) How would a trade war with China affect UBNT? 2) How risk averse are you? *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Paul McCall *Sent:* Monday, December 12, 2016 3:15 PM *To:*

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Buying or Selling UBNT stock

2016-12-12 Thread Tyson Burris
This stock is still in an uptrend. With that said, the direction of the markets will play a big factor. Had you bought at $27-$28 when I was screaming double down, you would have made a lot of money by now. Time to take some off no? Tyson Burris, President Internet Communications Inc. 739

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Buying or Selling UBNT stock

2016-12-12 Thread CBB - Jay Fuller
oh! oh! good questions - Original Message - From: Ken Hohhof To: af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, December 12, 2016 3:19 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Buying or Selling UBNT stock A couple questions: 1) How would a trade war with China affect UBNT? 2) How risk

Re: [AFMUG] UBNT Airfiber 24HD Mount more downtilt?

2016-12-12 Thread Chuck McCown
Get as much downtilt as you need with one of these: http://www.mccowntech.com/800-m-tow-p-36-36-inch-pipe-standoff/ -Original Message- From: Sterling Jacobson Sent: Monday, December 12, 2016 2:53 PM To: 'af@afmug.com' Subject: [AFMUG] UBNT Airfiber 24HD Mount more downtilt? I've got

[AFMUG] UBNT Airfiber 24HD Mount more downtilt?

2016-12-12 Thread Sterling Jacobson
I've got an Airfiber 24HD on a rohn tower on top of a mountain that needs more downtilt than it allows. The Rohn is pretty thin, probably less than 1 ½ inch. I need ideas on how to leverage the existing mount for more downtilt, or worst case scenario, get a different mount to the Rohn then

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Buying or Selling UBNT stock

2016-12-12 Thread Paul McCall
Because Gino said it was going to reach $100 by the end of last year LOL Sent from my Android phone using Symantec TouchDown (www.symantec.com) -Original Message- From: Josh Luthman [j...@imaginenetworksllc.com] Received: Monday, 12 Dec 2016, 4:18PM To: af@afmug.com [af@afmug.com]

Re: [AFMUG] Network Equipment Config Backups

2016-12-12 Thread Chuck McCown
Only when I go clubbing after a fresh wax. From: Jaime Solorza Sent: Monday, December 12, 2016 2:37 PM To: Animal Farm Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Network Equipment Config Backups I stopped wearing skirts long ago... On Dec 12, 2016 2:30 PM, "Adam Moffett" wrote: I love

Re: [AFMUG] Network Equipment Config Backups

2016-12-12 Thread Jaime Solorza
I stopped wearing skirts long ago... On Dec 12, 2016 2:30 PM, "Adam Moffett" wrote: I love negative dispositions. At least you know they're aren't blowing sunshine up your skirt. -- Original Message -- From: "Jaime Solorza" To: "Animal

Re: [AFMUG] Network Equipment Config Backups

2016-12-12 Thread Adam Moffett
I love negative dispositions. At least you know they're aren't blowing sunshine up your skirt. -- Original Message -- From: "Jaime Solorza" To: "Animal Farm" Sent: 12/12/2016 4:14:20 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Network Equipment Config Backups

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Buying or Selling UBNT stock

2016-12-12 Thread Josh Reynolds
Stocks are a long term bid. Have been reading a couple of good books from wealthy individuals lately. All of them say you should sit on a stock for at least 5 if not 10 years. On Dec 12, 2016 3:14 PM, "Paul McCall" wrote: > So what is the verdict gentleman? Has it peaked? > >

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Buying or Selling UBNT stock

2016-12-12 Thread Josh Reynolds
You could say the same for all hardware based tech stocks. Oh, and car electronics. On Dec 12, 2016 3:19 PM, "Ken Hohhof" wrote: > A couple questions: > > > > 1) How would a trade war with China affect UBNT? > > 2) How risk averse are you? > > > > > > *From:* Af

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Buying or Selling UBNT stock

2016-12-12 Thread Mike Hammett
At a part-time job I had many years ago, someone was there to talk about their retirement program. They insisted the increase in share price was the only way the fund's value went up. I asked about dividends, no response. I asked about splits, no response. - Mike Hammett

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Buying or Selling UBNT stock

2016-12-12 Thread Ken Hohhof
A couple questions: 1) How would a trade war with China affect UBNT? 2) How risk averse are you? From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Paul McCall Sent: Monday, December 12, 2016 3:15 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] OT: Buying or Selling UBNT stock So what is

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Buying or Selling UBNT stock

2016-12-12 Thread Josh Luthman
Steadily up for a year, what makes you think it's peaked now? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Dec 12, 2016 at 4:15 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote: > Instructions say to give 1/2 houroops ...wrong

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Buying or Selling UBNT stock

2016-12-12 Thread Jaime Solorza
Instructions say to give 1/2 houroops ...wrong list On Dec 12, 2016 2:14 PM, "Paul McCall" wrote: > So what is the verdict gentleman? Has it peaked? > > > > Paul McCall, President > > PDMNet, Inc. / Florida Broadband, Inc. > > 658 Old Dixie Highway > > Vero Beach, FL

[AFMUG] OT: Buying or Selling UBNT stock

2016-12-12 Thread Paul McCall
So what is the verdict gentleman? Has it peaked? Paul McCall, President PDMNet, Inc. / Florida Broadband, Inc. 658 Old Dixie Highway Vero Beach, FL 32962 772-564-6800 pa...@pdmnet.net www.pdmnet.com

Re: [AFMUG] Network Equipment Config Backups

2016-12-12 Thread Jaime Solorza
He does seem to have a negative disposition on thingshe probably cut only one wing off flies...give false hopeducking under my WispCon hat On Dec 12, 2016 2:11 PM, "Ken Hohhof" wrote: > “Platform Independent” = Java? > > If it’s Java, I would have expected Mike to cough

Re: [AFMUG] Network Equipment Config Backups

2016-12-12 Thread Mike Hammett
Tomas has gotten a lot of crap in our Slack chat for using Java, but he has make some good counterpoints. Chief among them is that shitty code is shitty code in any language. The easier languages tend to have more people coding in them that aren't exactly adhering to best practices. -

Re: [AFMUG] Network Equipment Config Backups

2016-12-12 Thread Ken Hohhof
“Platform Independent” = Java? If it’s Java, I would have expected Mike to cough up a hairball. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of That One Guy /sarcasm Sent: Monday, December 12, 2016 3:04 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Network Equipment Config Backups yea,

Re: [AFMUG] Network Equipment Config Backups

2016-12-12 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
yea, I probably should have mentioned that On Mon, Dec 12, 2016 at 3:02 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: > Unimus? > > > > - > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > >

Re: [AFMUG] Network Equipment Config Backups

2016-12-12 Thread Mike Hammett
Unimus? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "That One Guy /sarcasm" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, December 12, 2016 2:57:21 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Network

Re: [AFMUG] Network Equipment Config Backups

2016-12-12 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
reviving an old thread I put our beta on the network, within 5 minutes of downloading, every device we want backups for is backed up, we arent a big shop so its less than 50. Even our Fortigates I really like this alot And I hate everything On Mon, May 30, 2016 at 1:58 AM, Eric Kuhnke

Re: [AFMUG] Easiest VPN on mikrotik

2016-12-12 Thread George Skorup
6.32.2... [admin@NOC] /ip ipsec> export /ip ipsec proposal set [ find default=yes ] enc-algorithms=3des,aes-256-cbc I forget what blog or whatever I found this on, but that's what Windows wants to see. On 12/12/2016 1:05 PM, George Skorup wrote: And that's where one problem is. The Android

Re: [AFMUG] Easiest VPN on mikrotik

2016-12-12 Thread Mike Hammett
I believe non-CCR hardware acceleration is fine, but I'm not certain. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Ken Hohhof" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, December 12, 2016

Re: [AFMUG] Easiest VPN on mikrotik

2016-12-12 Thread Ken Hohhof
I’m too lazy to look it up, but didn’t the PowerPC based Routerboards have hardware encryption, like maybe the RB850Gx2 and/or RB110AHx2? From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Monday, December 12, 2016 12:49 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Easiest VPN

Re: [AFMUG] Easiest VPN on mikrotik

2016-12-12 Thread George Skorup
And that's where one problem is. The Android native L2TP/IPsec client doesn't complain too much, but the Windows 10 native client wants some specific combination. I forget what it is, but I fought with it for a couple days. On 12/12/2016 12:54 PM, Adam Moffett wrote: ah...so you're saying

Re: [AFMUG] Easiest VPN on mikrotik

2016-12-12 Thread Adam Moffett
ah...so you're saying it's not IPSec issue per se? Do you know which encryption types are hardware accelerated? -- Original Message -- From: "Mike Hammett" To: af@afmug.com Sent: 12/12/2016 1:48:39 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Easiest VPN on mikrotik If you change the

Re: [AFMUG] Easiest VPN on mikrotik

2016-12-12 Thread Mike Hammett
If you change the cipher to one that's not hardware encrypted, that problem goes away, replaced with a new problem of CPU capacity. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "George Skorup"

Re: [AFMUG] Easiest VPN on mikrotik

2016-12-12 Thread George Skorup
MT made L2TP+IPsec w/ pre-shared key painless to configure around v6.30 or 6.32, somewhere in there. In winbox, PPP > LT2P Server, check Use IPsec and fill in the IPsec Secret field. That's your pre-shared key. No more manual IPsec config, all of that is handled dynamically now. So it's just

Re: [AFMUG] Easiest VPN on mikrotik

2016-12-12 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 12/12/16 08:45, Adam Moffett wrote: You can probably guess the answer. Assuming you're not asking ironically or for rhetorical value: The needs of the business dictate what I need and certain employees and officers of the company use iPhones. Therefore I need a VPN solution that works on

Re: [AFMUG] Easiest VPN on mikrotik

2016-12-12 Thread Tyler Treat
This. Sadly. Like anything else. It's a balancing act. ___ On Dec 12, 2016, at 10:45 AM, Adam Moffett > wrote: You can probably guess the answer. Assuming you're not asking ironically or for rhetorical value: The

Re: [AFMUG] Easiest VPN on mikrotik

2016-12-12 Thread Mike Hammett
oVPN and SSTP are where I'd look on MT. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Jon Bruce" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, December 12, 2016 10:42:09 AM

Re: [AFMUG] Easiest VPN on mikrotik

2016-12-12 Thread Adam Moffett
You can probably guess the answer. Assuming you're not asking ironically or for rhetorical value: The needs of the business dictate what I need and certain employees and officers of the company use iPhones. Therefore I need a VPN solution that works on the current software for that

Re: [AFMUG] Easiest VPN on mikrotik

2016-12-12 Thread Steve
Good analogy. - Original Message - From: "Josh Reynolds" To: "af" Sent: Monday, December 12, 2016 11:39:48 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Easiest VPN on mikrotik It's same reason we got rid of WEP, collectively, as an industry. On Dec 12, 2016 9:35 AM,

Re: [AFMUG] Easiest VPN on mikrotik

2016-12-12 Thread Mike Hammett
Your disagreement is only because you don't know any better. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Josh Luthman" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, December 12,

Re: [AFMUG] Easiest VPN on mikrotik

2016-12-12 Thread Jon Bruce
+1 It's right up there with WEP or locking your screen door. Is OpenVPN an option on Mikrotik? I've run it for years on pfSense and stand-alone and love it. Failing that, IPSec with a decent client like Greenbow has also worked easily and well. All of that being said, is easy what is best

Re: [AFMUG] Easiest VPN on mikrotik

2016-12-12 Thread Josh Reynolds
It's same reason we got rid of WEP, collectively, as an industry. On Dec 12, 2016 9:35 AM, "Dennis Burgess" wrote: > Why does apple dictate what you may need.? > > > > PPTP ecnrtypes and does just fine for 99% of what people want it for. > However, you have options, on

Re: [AFMUG] Easiest VPN on mikrotik

2016-12-12 Thread Adam Moffett
WellI configured remote access VPN with L2TP+IPSec. It worked, but while my client was connected to it I had weird performance issues and TCP connections dropping. I took a packet capture showing out of order packets. Someone on this list mentioned there was a bug with IPsec hardware

Re: [AFMUG] Easiest VPN on mikrotik

2016-12-12 Thread Mike Hammett
PPTP should not be used anymore. It needs to die. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Dennis Burgess" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, December 12, 2016 9:35:03

Re: [AFMUG] Easiest VPN on mikrotik

2016-12-12 Thread Josh Luthman
I disagree as in it doesn't need to die. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Dec 12, 2016 at 11:34 AM, Josh Baird wrote: > You disagree that PPTP isn't secure? Even with the numerous *known* >

Re: [AFMUG] Easiest VPN on mikrotik

2016-12-12 Thread Steve
No he means if he's using SSL its a moot point. - Original Message - From: "Josh Baird" To: "af" Sent: Monday, December 12, 2016 11:34:06 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Easiest VPN on mikrotik You disagree that PPTP isn't secure? Even with the numerous

Re: [AFMUG] Easiest VPN on mikrotik

2016-12-12 Thread Josh Baird
You disagree that PPTP isn't secure? Even with the numerous *known* vulnerabilities discovered with the protocol? If security is of any concern to you, don't use it. On Mon, Dec 12, 2016 at 11:31 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: > Disagreed. Super easy to connect and SSL

Re: [AFMUG] Easiest VPN on mikrotik

2016-12-12 Thread Steve
Speaking of VPN's we too had to switch because of the IOS update. But I've heard and met some people at Wispapalooza that have mikrotik routers out there at customers houses. They had tunnels set up in them to automatically phone home to be managed. If anyone does that what sort of tunnel

Re: [AFMUG] Easiest VPN on mikrotik

2016-12-12 Thread Josh Luthman
Disagreed. Super easy to connect and SSL protects what I need it to. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Dec 12, 2016 at 11:30 AM, Mike Hammett wrote: > PPTP should not be used anymore. It needs to die. > >

Re: [AFMUG] Easiest VPN on mikrotik

2016-12-12 Thread Mike Hammett
The new Hex does IPSEC acceleration better than a CCR in that the packets arrive in nearly the same order they were sent. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Stefan Englhardt"

Re: [AFMUG] Easiest VPN on mikrotik

2016-12-12 Thread Mike Hammett
Not well. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Dennis Burgess" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, December 12, 2016 9:35:51 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Easiest VPN on

Re: [AFMUG] Easiest VPN on mikrotik

2016-12-12 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
rb951g should be a sufficient edge router for this shouldnt it? I think their DSL service is 12x2 rural so its never going to be a high demand router another issue is this rural telco isnt sure theyll be able to bridge their public in still so I may end up having to do an all all pinhole to

Re: [AFMUG] Easiest VPN on mikrotik

2016-12-12 Thread Josh Baird
PPTP should be avoided. It's easy, but it's not secure and should be considered obsolete. On Mon, Dec 12, 2016 at 10:35 AM, Dennis Burgess wrote: > Why does apple dictate what you may need.? > > > > PPTP ecnrtypes and does just fine for 99% of what people want it for.

Re: [AFMUG] Easiest VPN on mikrotik

2016-12-12 Thread Stefan Englhardt
The newest hEX (RB750Gr3) has IPSec Hardware encryption. Claims to do 470Mbps on a $60 Device. Von: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] Im Auftrag von Dennis Burgess Gesendet: Montag, 12. Dezember 2016 16:36 An: af@afmug.com Betreff: Re: [AFMUG] Easiest VPN on mikrotik I have IPSEC running

Re: [AFMUG] Easiest VPN on mikrotik

2016-12-12 Thread Dennis Burgess
I have IPSEC running on CCRS moving hundreds of megs? Dennis Burgess – Network Solution Engineer – Consultant MikroTik Certified Trainer/Consultant – MTCNA, MTCRE, MTCWE, MTCTCE, MTCINE For Wireless Hardware/Routers visit

Re: [AFMUG] Easiest VPN on mikrotik

2016-12-12 Thread Dennis Burgess
Why does apple dictate what you may need.? PPTP ecnrtypes and does just fine for 99% of what people want it for. However, you have options, on a MT, L2TP+IPSEC, IPSEC< PPPTP, SSL VPN is SSTP , OPenVPN, take your pick. All work quite well ,just depends on your requirements. Dennis Burgess –

Re: [AFMUG] OT: 2001 space odyssey

2016-12-12 Thread Chuck McCown
The sys admin needs to delete all Rev 1s from the system. You cannot have stability if you let random Revs run anytime they want. From: That One Guy /sarcasm Sent: Monday, December 12, 2016 8:10 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: 2001 space odyssey Thats not how evolution works,

Re: [AFMUG] OT: 2001 space odyssey

2016-12-12 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
Thats not how evolution works, thats not how any of this works. Evolution adds but doesnt decommission for the most part. Revision ones still breed. On Mon, Dec 12, 2016 at 8:59 AM, Steve wrote: > Speaking of which the new trailer the next Planet of the Apes movie was on >

Re: [AFMUG] VOIP Legality Canada

2016-12-12 Thread Steve
Thanks that's exactly what I was looking for. I remembered there were 3 things we needed - one of them was registering ourselves as a carrier for it. Thanks again. - Original Message - From: "Paul Stewart" To: "af" Sent: Monday, December 12, 2016

Re: [AFMUG] OT: 2001 space odyssey

2016-12-12 Thread Steve
Speaking of which the new trailer the next Planet of the Apes movie was on last night's walking dead and it looks fantastic. Although I don't know if Woody is a good actor for that sort of movie. He's a great actor (one of my favs) but we'll see. - Original Message - From: "Ken

Re: [AFMUG] OT: 2001 space odyssey

2016-12-12 Thread Ken Hohhof
Why are apes and gorillas still here? Time to watch Planet of the Apes. -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Steve Sent: Monday, December 12, 2016 8:25 AM To: af Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: 2001 space odyssey My 5 year old just the other

Re: [AFMUG] VOIP Legality Canada

2016-12-12 Thread Paul Stewart
VOIP requirements - suggest a telecom lawyer who can help answer better … this will help though: http://crtc.gc.ca/eng/phone/911/voip.htm Not aware of any call record requirements - we keep call records for a minimal amount of time but some

[AFMUG] VOIP Legality Canada

2016-12-12 Thread Steve
If I recall the basic requirements for you to legally host VOIP in Canada were that there is accurate and up to date 911 information per account, and that call records were held for a certain period of years? Correct? Anyone know if there are forms and such to fill out to send to the CRTC

Re: [AFMUG] OT: 2001 space odyssey

2016-12-12 Thread Gino Villarini
Cmon! We all know that eyebrows are a shelf for eyewear On 12/12/16, 10:30 AM, "Af on behalf of Chuck McCown" Gino Villarini President Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968 [cid:aeronet-logo_310cfc3e-6691-4f69-bd49-b37b834b9238.png]

Re: [AFMUG] OT: 2001 space odyssey

2016-12-12 Thread Chuck McCown
God gave you eyebrows so your mom can tell if you are lying. -Original Message- From: Steve Sent: Monday, December 12, 2016 7:24 AM To: af Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: 2001 space odyssey My 5 year old just the other day asked why we have eyebrows and my wife told him about how we evolved

Re: [AFMUG] OT: 2001 space odyssey

2016-12-12 Thread Josh Reynolds
I read some very interesting theories on the demise of the Neanderthals yesterday. The prevailing idea, based on genetic research and archaeological, is that homo sapiens basically crossbred and outbred them. There were also several species and subspecies that used tools. Pretty interesting stuff.

Re: [AFMUG] OT: 2001 space odyssey

2016-12-12 Thread Steve
My 5 year old just the other day asked why we have eyebrows and my wife told him about how we evolved from apes. Then he asked - "Isn't there gorillas and apes right now?" We had to say yes but couldn't explain it to him why they are still here :) Seeing a 5 year old asking those questions