[AFMUG] OT Happy Easter to all

2017-04-15 Thread Mitch Koep
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Re: [AFMUG] FCC part 101 80mhz channel size??

2017-04-15 Thread Adam Moffett
I did not know that. Good info to have. -- Original Message -- From: "Hardy, Tim" To: "af@afmug.com" Sent: 4/15/2017 7:53:13 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FCC part 101 80mhz channel size?? Upper 6 can use smaller B2 antennas, but there are specific designated congested areas that require

Re: [AFMUG] Calix E7-2 vs AdTran, Zhone, or?

2017-04-15 Thread Paul Stewart
Thanks … The model we tested was the ZTE H268A specifically … the answer for the DMTF tones was that there wasn’t anyone in North America using the voice portion yet and they could develop it but I was a bit shocked they would send it to us when only “half” of it works .. The unit wasn’t horr

Re: [AFMUG] FCC part 101 80mhz channel size??

2017-04-15 Thread Hardy, Tim
Upper 6 can use smaller B2 antennas, but there are specific designated congested areas that require Cat A (6' or larger) antennas. Any licensee that uses the smaller B or B2 antennas in any band should realize that the antenna could be subject to upgrade to a Cat A at their sole expense if anot

Re: [AFMUG] Calix E7-2 vs AdTran, Zhone, or?

2017-04-15 Thread PE R
Doesn't hurt to give the newer stuff a shot and possibly save some CAPEX.  :)    (And the newer ZTE VDSL2 products are deployed and/or in trials along with the G.fast products with operators throughout the US.)   The DTMF tones are simply a matter of getting the software updated if the product's

Re: [AFMUG] FCC part 101 80mhz channel size??

2017-04-15 Thread Sean Heskett
I meant are there any other bands besides 11ghz and 18ghz that support 80mhz channels in FCC land. -Sean On Sat, Apr 15, 2017 at 11:31 AM Mitch Koep wrote: > 6 and 7 > > 11 > > 13 > > 18 > > 23 > > https://www.intelpath.com/ > > Mitch Koep > > 218-851-8689 cell > > > > On 04/14/2017 09:46 PM,

[AFMUG] Canopy SNMP and Spectrum Analysis

2017-04-15 Thread Matt
Is there anyway to retrieve the results of a spectrum analysis from canopy gear with snmp?

Re: [AFMUG] Canopy 2.4ghz PMP450

2017-04-15 Thread George Skorup
Still have one sector up. The problem isn't noise at the tower, but at the SM. You get that one customer where their SM can see their router or their neighbor's on a 40MHz channel, SNR is shit, downlink runs at 1X, often MIMO-A, and it drags down the entire sector. Now imagine having 20-30 SMs

Re: [AFMUG] Canopy 2.4ghz PMP450

2017-04-15 Thread Josh Baird
Higher SNR required for decent modulation on 2.4 450 compared to FSK... On Sat, Apr 15, 2017 at 5:31 PM, Matt wrote: > Anyone running the Canopy 2.4ghz 450 in a noisy environment? We have > couple clusters or 2.4 FSK we need to upgrade and not all the CPE's > will switch too 5.x ghz due to LOS

Re: [AFMUG] OT RF question

2017-04-15 Thread George Skorup
There are two wide and three narrow MURS channels. Obviously the wider channels would be more suited for data. I remember seeing a VHF add-on board for one of the micro SBCs one time, but I can't remember what I google'd for to find it. The only problem with MURS fixed stations is the 30 meter

[AFMUG] Canopy 2.4ghz PMP450

2017-04-15 Thread Matt
Anyone running the Canopy 2.4ghz 450 in a noisy environment? We have couple clusters or 2.4 FSK we need to upgrade and not all the CPE's will switch too 5.x ghz due to LOS issues. Just wandering how everything will work if we move all them from FSK to 450 with a good bit of noise in area?

Re: [AFMUG] FCC part 101 80mhz channel size??

2017-04-15 Thread George Skorup
60MHz and 3' HP dishes in lower 6GHz only. Upper is still 30MHz and 6' minimum. Bigger channels and smaller dishes probably wasn't the greatest idea though. Great way to trash a band. Just sayin. We have one lower 6GHz link on the 60MHz channel plan and it was hard enough to coordinate even on

Re: [AFMUG] Calix E7-2 vs AdTran, Zhone, or?

2017-04-15 Thread Paul Stewart
Much prefer Adtran TA5000 stuff personally …. haven’t used ZTE for FTTH but tested some of their other gear such as ATA combo modem (dsl) and ran into a lot of grief with it. It “feels” super cheap and the UI had a lot to be desired (and simply lacked needed features like North American DTMF to

Re: [AFMUG] OT RF question

2017-04-15 Thread Chuck McCown
Looking for a module for a raspberry pi computer. There is a product called symphony that is looking good. Also LoRa. From: Jaime Solorza Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2017 2:02 PM To: Animal Farm Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT RF question Maxstream has some low cost Ethernet radios using FHSS Bu

Re: [AFMUG] OT RF question

2017-04-15 Thread Jaime Solorza
Maxstream has some low cost Ethernet radios using FHSS But I would use ubnt M900 radios ...U can do 2,3,5,8,10 and 20Mhz channelsLow cost and they work well..We have them in several SCADA and camera links all over West Texas. Even had an MDS rep get upset because we outperformed their SD90

Re: [AFMUG] FCC part 101 80mhz channel size??

2017-04-15 Thread Mike Hammett
Right. That's my first sentence. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Jeff Broadwick - Lists" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2017 2:16:12 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FCC part 1

Re: [AFMUG] FCC part 101 80mhz channel size??

2017-04-15 Thread Jeff Broadwick - Lists
Yes, you can get 60MHz channels in 6GHz. I was referring to 7 and 13. Jeff Broadwick ConVergence Technologies, Inc. 312-205-2519 Office 574-220-7826 Cell jbroadw...@converge-tech.com > On Apr 15, 2017, at 3:06 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: > > 30 MHz, I think? I think one of the 6 GHz ones is still

Re: [AFMUG] FCC part 101 80mhz channel size??

2017-04-15 Thread Chuck McCown
There are some wide channels at 6 GHz, at the bottom of the band I think. But good luck getting them. From: Mike Hammett Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2017 1:06 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FCC part 101 80mhz channel size?? 30 MHz, I think? I think one of the 6 GHz ones is still 30

[AFMUG] OT RF question

2017-04-15 Thread Chuck McCown
I am working on a project where I need to exchange some low rate data between a tower top and a vehicle up to to 1000 feet or maybe even a quarter mile away. Lots of choices. Zigbee, 802.15.4, 315 MHz, blue tooth, wifi UWB etc. Need something that is relatively free from interference. Has t

Re: [AFMUG] FCC part 101 80mhz channel size??

2017-04-15 Thread Mike Hammett
30 MHz, I think? I think one of the 6 GHz ones is still 30 MHz with the other being 60? My memory could be faulty. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Jeff Broadwick - Lists" To: af@

Re: [AFMUG] FCC part 101 80mhz channel size??

2017-04-15 Thread Jeff Broadwick - Lists
And the channel sizes are very small. Jeff Broadwick ConVergence Technologies, Inc. 312-205-2519 Office 574-220-7826 Cell jbroadw...@converge-tech.com > On Apr 15, 2017, at 2:48 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: > > 7&13 are not available in many areas. > 6 is used up in many places > > From: Mitch Koe

Re: [AFMUG] FCC part 101 80mhz channel size??

2017-04-15 Thread Chuck McCown
7&13 are not available in many areas. 6 is used up in many places From: Mitch Koep Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2017 12:31 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FCC part 101 80mhz channel size?? 6 and 7 11 13 18 23 https://www.intelpath.com/ Mitch Koep 218-851-8689 cell On 04/14/2

Re: [AFMUG] FCC part 101 80mhz channel size??

2017-04-15 Thread Mitch Koep
6 and 7 11 13 18 23 https://www.intelpath.com/ Mitch Koep 218-851-8689 cell On 04/14/2017 09:46 PM, Sean Heskett wrote: Awesome! Are there any other bands besides 11ghz and 18ghz?? Thanks! -Sean On Fri, Apr 14, 2017 at 5:17 PM Eric Kuhnke > wrote:

Re: [AFMUG] "The long lines" photobook available again

2017-04-15 Thread Jason McKemie
Very cool, might have to get a copy. On Saturday, April 15, 2017, Colin Stanners wrote: > The photographer Spencer J Harding came back from a project and mailed me > my copy of the long lines book.. A short but beautiful collection of > pictures of parts of the system that helped shape our techn

Re: [AFMUG] "The long lines" photobook available again

2017-04-15 Thread Colin Stanners
http://spencerjharding.com/books/the-long-lines/ On Apr 15, 2017 10:43 AM, "Mike Hammett" wrote: > Link? > > > > - > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > > >

Re: [AFMUG] "The long lines" photobook available again

2017-04-15 Thread Mike Hammett
Link? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Colin Stanners" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2017 10:20:04 AM Subject: [AFMUG] "The long lines" photobook available again Th

[AFMUG] "The long lines" photobook available again

2017-04-15 Thread Colin Stanners
The photographer Spencer J Harding came back from a project and mailed me my copy of the long lines book.. A short but beautiful collection of pictures of parts of the system that helped shape our technology and industry.

[AFMUG] AMD Acquires 60 GHz Wireless IP and Staff from Nitero

2017-04-15 Thread Jaime Solorza
http://www.anandtech.com/show/11268/amd-acquires-60ghz-ip-and-staff-from-nitero