Re: [AFMUG] Are Airrouter HP's discontinued?

2017-06-27 Thread Steve Jones
I doubt its fully DC based on the firmwares on them On Tue, Jun 27, 2017 at 11:23 PM, Mathew Howard wrote: > As a general rule, I think UBNT pretty much keeps building stuff as long > as people keep buying it regardless of how obsolete it is or how many years > it's been

Re: [AFMUG] Are Airrouter HP's discontinued?

2017-06-27 Thread Mathew Howard
As a general rule, I think UBNT pretty much keeps building stuff as long as people keep buying it regardless of how obsolete it is or how many years it's been gone from their website. This particular question has come up a few times over the past few years... they had buried the airrouters under

Re: [AFMUG] So Silicon Valley WISP startup gets $7M investment?

2017-06-27 Thread Rory Conaway
IgniteNet has done a good job at getting them to work at more than a mile with no problems by using the edge of the 60GHz band. Now, does that mean it’s going to work near the ocean, the Midwest near the lakes, etc…. at those distances? Of course not. But it will work for ½ mile at least in

Re: [AFMUG] Are Airrouter HP's discontinued?

2017-06-27 Thread Steve Jones
lol, does UBNT website actually reflect their product offerings, Ive come to just look at their website as more of their poster board of ideas On Tue, Jun 27, 2017 at 11:04 PM, Rory Conaway wrote: > Yea but they aren’t on the website any longer. > > > > Rory > > > >

[AFMUG] Dealing with a lease violation (5ghz)

2017-06-27 Thread Steve Jones
I am not asking about any FCC Part X rules, I know this isn't an FCC issue under any circumstances. We have leases with all our POP landlords, in the lease we own the site spectrum, with the exception of very few locations we don't collocate, just not worth the hassle. I come rolling up on a

Re: [AFMUG] Are Airrouter HP's discontinued?

2017-06-27 Thread Rory Conaway
Yea but they aren’t on the website any longer. Rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2017 6:11 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Are Airrouter HP's discontinued? 400 of them at Streakwave. Make sure you're getting the US model?

Re: [AFMUG] So Silicon Valley WISP startup gets $7M investment?

2017-06-27 Thread Adam Moffett
I'm definitely able to be wrong, and I don't need to smoke anything to be wrong. I've done 60ghz exactly zero times. I've smoked things I probably shouldn't more than zero times, but zero times in the past 15 years. I'm just taking free space loss and adding tx power and antenna gain from

Re: [AFMUG] Are Airrouter HP's discontinued?

2017-06-27 Thread Steve Jones
We are still getting regular AirRouters, I cant see the HP would exit the market before a DC model On Tue, Jun 27, 2017 at 10:06 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: > Seriously doubt it. > > Johns Hopkins University/Applied Physics Laboratory (JHU/APL) is > coordinating an

Re: [AFMUG] Another Ransomware Cyberattack today

2017-06-27 Thread Steve Jones
Am I the only one who finds this a very convenient issue, hitting the Ukraine, a week after we find the prior administration "planted seeds" Ukraine being a hot button issue in US/Russia relations, Main Stream Media actually reporting a prior administration blunder, and WikiLeaks for 3 months

Re: [AFMUG] Are Airrouter HP's discontinued?

2017-06-27 Thread Josh Luthman
Seriously doubt it. Johns Hopkins University/Applied Physics Laboratory (JHU/APL) is coordinating an evaluation of the Persistent Systems MPU-5 handheld radio to support New York City Police Department (NYPD) tactical operations. One of the RF frequencies selected for use during the evaluation,

Re: [AFMUG] So Silicon Valley WISP startup gets $7M investment?

2017-06-27 Thread Eric Kuhnke
60 GHz has very different atmospheric performance than 71-86 GHz FDD. 2 miles at 80 GHz with 60cm/2' dishes is pretty normal now. The peak in this chart right at 60 GHz is one of the reasons why it's unlicensed. http://forum.flitetest.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=36164=1418680522=1 On Tue,

Re: [AFMUG] So Silicon Valley WISP startup gets $7M investment?

2017-06-27 Thread Jaime Solorza
I have installed 2 mile 80GHz links at Fort Bliss several years ago..I am sure newer technology will improve fade margin. Jaime Solorza On Jun 27, 2017 8:01 PM, "Eric Kuhnke" wrote: > 60 GHz PtMP at 1-3 miles? I want some of whatever you're smoking because > it must be

Re: [AFMUG] So Silicon Valley WISP startup gets $7M investment?

2017-06-27 Thread Eric Kuhnke
60 GHz PtMP at 1-3 miles? I want some of whatever you're smoking because it must be some primo stuff. If you put up a few 500 to 800 meter distance 60 GHz PTP links and monitor them over a multi month period, you'll see that you really don't want to go much longer than that. I can't imagine that

Re: [AFMUG] So Silicon Valley WISP startup gets $7M investment?

2017-06-27 Thread Adam Moffett
What IgniteNet is selling is a 60ghz PTMP with a built in 5ghz backup radio. It's understood that the 60ghz connection will go down due to rain fade, but the built-in 5ghz backup should keep the customer trucking (with reduced capacity). I think you'd be installing at ranges of 1-3 miles for

Re: [AFMUG] Exalt Diplexers

2017-06-27 Thread Adair Winter
Might be worth a shot! I'll see what I can dig up. On Tue, Jun 27, 2017 at 8:39 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote: > A couple of years ago ,we installed an Exalt link for city of Midland PD. > They had several diplexers extra due to mix up. Not sure if they kept > them...we

Re: [AFMUG] Exalt Diplexers

2017-06-27 Thread Adair Winter
Oh yes, I suppose that would be good info to have.. 11Ghz Band 1. Good catch, sorry about that! On Tue, Jun 27, 2017 at 8:43 PM, Colin Stanners wrote: > Band 1 of which frequency range? > > On Tue, Jun 27, 2017 at 7:54 PM, Adair Winter >

Re: [AFMUG] Exalt Diplexers

2017-06-27 Thread Jaime Solorza
Forgot to mention...these were 11GHz versions... Jaime Solorza On Jun 27, 2017 7:39 PM, "Jaime Solorza" wrote: > A couple of years ago ,we installed an Exalt link for city of Midland PD. > They had several diplexers extra due to mix up. Not sure if they kept >

Re: [AFMUG] Exalt Diplexers

2017-06-27 Thread Colin Stanners
Band 1 of which frequency range? On Tue, Jun 27, 2017 at 7:54 PM, Adair Winter wrote: > I'm looking for a set of Band 1 diplexers for Exalt ExtendAir G2. Anyone > have any they want to sell? > > -- > > Adair Winter > VP, Network Operations / Co-Owner > Amarillo

Re: [AFMUG] Exalt Diplexers

2017-06-27 Thread Jaime Solorza
A couple of years ago ,we installed an Exalt link for city of Midland PD. They had several diplexers extra due to mix up. Not sure if they kept them...we left them with head of IT at main court house building. Long shot... Jaime Solorza On Jun 27, 2017 6:54 PM, "Adair Winter"

Re: [AFMUG] Are Airrouter HP's discontinued?

2017-06-27 Thread Jaime Solorza
What you don't need 2300 to 2700MHz coverage? We got one at Tornillo ISD years ago..not much we could do with it... doesn't Sirius use 2377MHz? Jaime Solorza On Jun 27, 2017 7:11 PM, "Josh Luthman" wrote: > 400 of them at Streakwave. Make sure you're getting the

Re: [AFMUG] Are Airrouter HP's discontinued?

2017-06-27 Thread Josh Luthman
400 of them at Streakwave. Make sure you're getting the US model? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Jun 27, 2017 at 7:43 PM, Rory Conaway wrote: > >

[AFMUG] Exalt Diplexers

2017-06-27 Thread Adair Winter
I'm looking for a set of Band 1 diplexers for Exalt ExtendAir G2. Anyone have any they want to sell? -- Adair Winter VP, Network Operations / Co-Owner Amarillo Wireless | 806.316.5071 C: 806.231.7180 http://www.amarillowireless.net

Re: [AFMUG] Tower security camera recommendations

2017-06-27 Thread Jaime Solorza
One more time.. compressed video down to 4 from 20mbps. . playback at 8x.. Jaime Solorza On Jun 26, 2017 8:06 AM, "Jay Weekley" wrote: > Do you have a model you like? > > Mike Hammett wrote: > >> UniFi Video >> >> >> >> - >> Mike Hammett >> Intelligent Computing

[AFMUG] Are Airrouter HP's discontinued?

2017-06-27 Thread Rory Conaway

Re: [AFMUG] 15.1 Radar

2017-06-27 Thread Eric Muehleisen
Yes. Two events yesterday on same AP. I have no previous history since this AP is a new install. It's mounted to a concrete grain elevator, so the backside is completely shielded. I have a feeling they are false positives. On Tue, Jun 27, 2017 at 2:16 PM, Chris Wright wrote:

Re: [AFMUG] 15.1 Radar

2017-06-27 Thread Josh Luthman
Can you see what they were compared to the last 18 months? I wonder if it isn't related to all the other weird 5 GHz stuff. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Jun 27, 2017 at 3:16 PM, Chris Wright wrote:

[AFMUG] 15.1 Radar

2017-06-27 Thread Chris Wright
Ever since upgrading to 15.1 the beginning of June, I'm noticing a significant jump in radar incidents on several of my 450 APs on different towers pointing in different directions. Anyone else seeing an increase? The Y-axis in the attached image is radar events in increments of 50. Chris

Re: [AFMUG] Shielded Cat6 connectors

2017-06-27 Thread Sterling Jacobson
I use Cat6 EZ-RJ45 stuff all the time. This is what I ordered: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002PI85LQ/ https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00939KFOU/ I'm getting to the point where I can't see fine writing close, or wiring in semi-dark like I used to. -Original Message- From:

Re: [AFMUG] Shielded Cat6 connectors

2017-06-27 Thread Jason McKemie
I quit using those years ago, always had problems getting the tab to lock into Canopy units. I'm not sure if that ever got resolved, but they're not really worth the additional cost for me. On Tuesday, June 27, 2017, Chuck McCown wrote: > Does anyone make CAT6 plugs where the

[AFMUG] Another Ransomware Cyberattack today

2017-06-27 Thread Rory Conaway
https://www.forbes.com/sites/thomasbrewster/2017/06/27/ransomware-spreads-rapidly-hitting-power-companies-banks-airlines-metro/#4bbb58a97abd Rory Conaway * Triad Wireless * CEO 4226 S. 37th Street * Phoenix * AZ 85040 602-426-0542 r...@triadwireless.net

Re: [AFMUG] So Silicon Valley WISP startup gets $7M investment?

2017-06-27 Thread Rory Conaway
And a well designed 60GHz system would have the same result. If you are counting rain, the IgniteNets also have 5GHz backups. Rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2017 8:39 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] So Silicon Valley WISP

Re: [AFMUG] So Silicon Valley WISP startup gets $7M investment?

2017-06-27 Thread Mike Hammett
Firmware upgrades... - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Harold Bledsoe" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2017 10:54:44 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] So

Re: [AFMUG] So Silicon Valley WISP startup gets $7M investment?

2017-06-27 Thread Mike Hammett
" Zero. If it goes down the phone will ring. With a well designed and installed Canopy system there was no downtime. " That's unreasonable for any platform anywhere. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original

Re: [AFMUG] So Silicon Valley WISP startup gets $7M investment?

2017-06-27 Thread Harold Bledsoe
I'd say zero is not possible with any network. Lightning strikes, fiber gets cut, core routers die, etc. Murphy is very resourceful.  On Tue, Jun 27, 2017 at 11:38 AM Chuck McCown wrote: > 1. What is acceptable downtime on pure 60GHz. It is possible to > engineering it to

Re: [AFMUG] So Silicon Valley WISP startup gets $7M investment?

2017-06-27 Thread Chuck McCown
1. What is acceptable downtime on pure 60GHz. It is possible to engineering it to practically no downtime although less economical. Zero. If it goes down the phone will ring. With a well designed and installed Canopy system there was no downtime. 2. What is the acceptable backup

Re: [AFMUG] So Silicon Valley WISP startup gets $7M investment?

2017-06-27 Thread Harold Bledsoe
There's no right or wrong in this equation. What is the downtime that is acceptable for your customers? ATT offers 99.9% uptime for their residential customers. 1. What is acceptable downtime on pure 60GHz. It is possible to engineering it to practically no downtime although less economical.

Re: [AFMUG] Shielded Cat6 connectors

2017-06-27 Thread David Coudron
We are struggling with the same issue. We can do the push through Cat 5e connectors pretty quickly and with virtually no errors, even without the glasses. However the Cat 6/6a connectors without the push through feature and with the loading bar were a nightmare. Lots of cussing, lots of

Re: [AFMUG] Shielded Cat6 connectors

2017-06-27 Thread Chuck McCown
My problem is I cannot see that well anymore. I have to use a magnifying glass every time I terminate a cable. -Original Message- From: David Coudron Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2017 8:24 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Shielded Cat6 connectors Yes, these Platinum connectors

Re: [AFMUG] Shielded Cat6 connectors

2017-06-27 Thread David Coudron
Yes, these Platinum connectors are those. We had used the Platinum Cat5e connectors and really like the push through feature. The part number listed below is a Cat 6/6a design that also allows for this, but a different crimper is required. That is the other part number. We are pretty

Re: [AFMUG] Shielded Cat6 connectors

2017-06-27 Thread Chuck McCown
Does anyone make CAT6 plugs where the wire goes clear through. Cannot remember what that is called. -Original Message- From: David Coudron Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2017 7:31 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Shielded Cat6 connectors Funny, but this is the exact path we are

Re: [AFMUG] Shielded Cat6 connectors

2017-06-27 Thread David Coudron
Funny, but this is the exact path we are following as well. We tried the Quiktrex connectors and they were a disaster. The loading bar is far too messy to deal with in any where but a controlled environment. Trying to crimp at the top of a grainleg or tower, or even at the bottom in low

Re: [AFMUG] Shielded Cat6 connectors

2017-06-27 Thread Jay Weekley
Lol. I had exactly the same discovery, opinion of the results and conversation with Shireen. I'll look into the Platinum Tools. Christopher Gray wrote: This is not a direct answer, but Platinum Tools is expected to release a new version of their shielded EZ-RJ to fit their new EXO dies. I'm

Re: [AFMUG] Shielded Cat6 connectors

2017-06-27 Thread Christopher Gray
This is not a direct answer, but Platinum Tools is expected to release a new version of their shielded EZ-RJ to fit their new EXO dies. I'm expecting this is the way I'll be heading for Cat6 connections. The Shireen connectors you suggested will crimp with standard crimpers, BUT, the shield will