Re: [AFMUG] OT Municipally funded ISPs

That's interesting. Can you share more details about being a service provider on the iProvo and AF networks? In what way we're they substandard? Jared > Sent: Monday, August 07, 2017 > From: "Sterling Jacobson" > To: "af@afmug.com" > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT

Re: [AFMUG] moving 10gbps 12 miles

ELVA-1 has an E-band radio which they claim will do full duplex 10G up to 12 miles with 2' dishes. Jared     Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2017 From: "Steve Jones" To: "af@afmug.com" Subject: [AFMUG] moving 10gbps 12 miles Im guessing there is no

Re: [AFMUG] Matt Hoppes and Missouri IX

Wow Ye a Man of Many Talents .. Spoken Word be one of them I would have thought naught ! The Big C M hath spoken... so let this thread be naught ! :) Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet & Telecom 7266 SW 48 Street Miami, FL 33155 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or

[AFMUG] Alkaline Rechargeables making a comeback

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/01/technology/alkaline-batteries-replace-lithium-ion.html Rory Conaway * Triad Wireless * CEO 4226 S. 37th Street * Phoenix * AZ 85040 602-426-0542 r...@triadwireless.net www.triadwireless.net

Re: [AFMUG] Matt Hoppes and Missouri IX

/quit > On Aug 6, 2017, at 7:56 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: > > You got it: > > Posts of snark, posts so cussed > full of butt hurt, bitches not just > I scatter these posts, these posts of rage > take thine ignorant friend, make him age > I see thine missives before me now > I

Re: [AFMUG] Matt Hoppes and Missouri IX

You got it: Posts of snark, posts so cussed full of butt hurt, bitches not just I scatter these posts, these posts of rage take thine ignorant friend, make him age I see thine missives before me now I trash them, delete them, filter them down With these keystrokes I now do pwn Make thine

Re: [AFMUG] Matt Hoppes and Missouri IX

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-G7b1zOhO_A - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Mitch Koep" To: af@afmug.com, "Faisal Imtiaz" Sent:

Re: [AFMUG] Matt Hoppes and Missouri IX

Will somebody PLEASE kill this string? LOL it will go on and on forever Mitch On 8/6/2017 3:32 PM, Faisal Imtiaz wrote: Are you prepared to give your customers a 'Tour of the Facilities?' We normally like to have a tour of the facilities before we engage for service. We also have

Re: [AFMUG] OT Municipally funded ISPs

I agree with that. The numbers never added up. iProvo never added up, Utopia never added up, Amercian Fork system numbers never made any sense. I was a network provider on iProvo and AF networks for a while and sold them off since they were always substandard and profit was driven to minimum.

Re: [AFMUG] OT Eclipse

At the least it's better to burn the camera than the eyeball. -- Original Message -- From: "Robert Andrews" To: af@afmug.com Sent: 8/6/2017 4:40:59 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Eclipse Do beware, Optical paths through cameras/telescopes can get VERY HOT

Re: [AFMUG] OT Eclipse

Do beware, Optical paths through cameras/telescopes can get VERY HOT observing the sun. Optical coatings were not designed to be pointed directly at the sun for long periods of time and can overheat and destroy your optics. Pin holes may solve the problem or just make a large heat

Re: [AFMUG] Matt Hoppes and Missouri IX

Are you prepared to give your customers a 'Tour of the Facilities?' We normally like to have a tour of the facilities before we engage for service. We also have 'informal' colo facilities, for which we highly encourage customers to visit before deciding to utilize. How does this 'relate' to

Re: [AFMUG] Matt Hoppes and Missouri IX

If youre not reading the contract before you sign it, and following up with questions about basic things like that then there is a much bigger issue for your company than a stock profile background image On Aug 6, 2017 11:03 AM, "Matt Hoppes" wrote: > So let

[AFMUG] OT Municipally funded ISPs

Here is an editorial in the Deseret News today. It is just an opinion. And I know Roger has been a reader of this list (Roger runs UTOPIA). But I have always been against municipal ISPs on principle. Some things the government is good at, some things they are not good at. Roads and Streets

Re: [AFMUG] DW shutsdown

In the first article I read: = The company suffered a major blow in late 2015 after Nokia – which historically provided a significant portion of DragonWave’s revenue as an original equipment manufacturer sales channel – acquired DragonWave competitor Alcatel-Lucent. The firm’s total

Re: [AFMUG] Matt Hoppes and Missouri IX

It's a problem when you're not even understanding what you're talking about, so it's a problem now. Well, and you didn't attach the pictures you were talking about. You said you advertise colo A and have colo B. That's different than having IX A and showing colo B. - Mike Hammett

Re: [AFMUG] Matt Hoppes and Missouri IX

So let me throw this out. I advertise a colo facility with generator backup. Post pictures like this. Actual facility is a back room in an office with racks from Lowe's and a roll out generator we plug in with extension cords. At what point is this a problem? > On Aug 6, 2017, at 11:37 AM,

Re: [AFMUG] OT Eclipse

I plan to use a camera and tv. :) > On Aug 6, 2017, at 11:41 AM, wrote: > > If you are fortunate enough to be able to see the eclipse on the 21st, low > cost optical filters can be made out of a double layer of aluminized Mylar > space blankets. > >

[AFMUG] OT Eclipse

If you are fortunate enough to be able to see the eclipse on the 21st, low cost optical filters can be made out of a double layer of aluminized Mylar space blankets. $1.99, cut up many strips and you have your viewing glasses and dozens to give away. And of course you don’t need any eye

Re: [AFMUG] Matt Hoppes and Missouri IX

Pre-patch a bunch of stuff into pre-populated SFPs and when orders are submitted, the data center's cross connect crew does all the work. No need to visit the facility regularly. :-) - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP

Re: [AFMUG] Matt Hoppes and Missouri IX

It is amazing how a collection of subject matter experts can strain at gnats. I am just as guilty as anyone else when it comes to my area of special concern. Part 15 antenna certification requirements etc. Time to listen to this again:

Re: [AFMUG] Matt Hoppes and Missouri IX

> > I'm not sure IX employees ever really work in the MMR, rarely in the data > center at all. Once a month? Once every other month? Depends on the IX (as I get off topic here) … some of them are daily in MMR’s. As for DC’s themselves, I can speak personally about one IX in particular where

Re: [AFMUG] Matt Hoppes and Missouri IX

I suppose also different if I operated a datacenter, MMR, etc. I sell an IX, not an MMR. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Faisal Imtiaz" To: af@afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] Matt Hoppes and Missouri IX

Towers from another WISP or random towers in a pretty picture? One is similar to the situation, the other is not. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Matt Hoppes"

Re: [AFMUG] Matt Hoppes and Missouri IX

I'm not sure IX employees ever really work in the MMR, rarely in the data center at all. Once a month? Once every other month? No claim of credit is being taken. Going to the original complaintant's employer's web site... is that lady doing whatever dev work she's doing a Noel

Re: [AFMUG] Matt Hoppes and Missouri IX

>>> I am not the copyright owner of the photo in question. This is only a >>> request. Please stop using the photo of the Westin Building 1901 fiber meet-me room to advertise the Missouri IX. Hmm... not the copyright owner.. Not the Building Owner Not the Colo Owner So hence my

Re: [AFMUG] Matt Hoppes and Missouri IX

After 4 and 7 years respectively, I ended two orgies this summer. I feel so legit now. Makes me want to do dishes and mow the lawn. > If our sites didnt look like a bunch of rats had an orgy during a tornado, id > love to see my sites used to represent the industry On Aug 6, 2017 9:13 AM,

Re: [AFMUG] Matt Hoppes and Missouri IX

Alot of isps have stock photos. As long as its not specifically marketed as their site, its just a general image. The nursing home here has all kinds of stock photos of nurses that dont work there, its all young beautiful ladies, when the reality is its mostly old obese women. Ive also never eaten

Re: [AFMUG] Matt Hoppes and Missouri IX

Would it be wrong for me to put towers from another WISP on my website? Seems like you should sell your own dog food. > On Aug 6, 2017, at 10:08 AM, Chuck McCown wrote: > > Marketing – always a question of how far do you stretch the truth. > How many products have been

Re: [AFMUG] Matt Hoppes and Missouri IX

Marketing – always a question of how far do you stretch the truth. How many products have been announced with an artists conception or rendering of the product as they hope it to be... Our community is just particularly sensitive due to the fact the almost all of us have run lotsa CAT5 and

Re: [AFMUG] Matt Hoppes and Missouri IX

I believe the issue is that the picture may not represent the actual IX in question (or MMR of the building where the IX is located might be more accurate). Basically, and pardon me possibly putting words in some people’s mouthes here, when a group of people put a lot of work into something

Re: [AFMUG] Any SOHO router (cost effective) that does SFP+?

Actually the UBNT EdgeRouter Infinity might be fit… when finally released http://www.4netonline.com/ws/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/EdgeRouter_ER-8-XG_Distributor_DS.pdf From: Af > on behalf of George Skorup