Re: [AFMUG] What happened to Trillion in Alabama

2017-09-11 Thread Hardy, Tim
The previous Trillion licenses are now held by Affiniti LLC From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of CBB - Jay Fuller Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2017 10:34 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] What happened to Trillion in Alabama I heard stories and even used to talk to a guy who

[AFMUG] Packetflux Airfiber POE

2017-09-11 Thread Adam Moffett
I'm wondering why there is a special AirFiber POE device for Packetflux. Will AirFiber not work with the 4 port gigE POE adapter?

Re: [AFMUG] Packetflux Airfiber POE

2017-09-11 Thread Mathew Howard
If I remember correctly, the 4 port works fine. I think the reason for the special one was because the airFiber 24 draws so much power, but if I remember right, it was determined later on that the normal injectors would handle it fine (and I'm pretty sure I had one running on one at one point). It

Re: [AFMUG] What happened to Trillion in Alabama

2017-09-11 Thread Jaime Solorza
Friend of mine from Austin worked for them for several years.. they used Nera (sic) licensed gear for point to point. I thought it was spelled Trillium? On Sep 11, 2017 9:46 AM, "Hardy, Tim" wrote: > The previous Trillion licenses are now held by Affiniti LLC > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun..

Re: [AFMUG] Packetflux Airfiber POE

2017-09-11 Thread Adam Moffett
It so happens an AF24 is exactly what I'm looking at. -- Original Message -- From: "Mathew Howard" To: "af" Sent: 9/11/2017 12:56:13 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Packetflux Airfiber POE If I remember correctly, the 4 port works fine. I think the reason for the special one was because the

Re: [AFMUG] Packetflux Airfiber POE

2017-09-11 Thread George Skorup
I want to say the single-port AF injector came out before Forrest had the 4/8-port GigE injectors done. Or maybe even before they were designed. And that's simply because of the GigE + 4-pair injection scheme. That was one of the few radios at the time that required 4 pairs because of the power

Re: [AFMUG] Link to Large Boat

2017-09-11 Thread Christopher Gray
I saw a nice automatic aiming mount made by Winegard: http://www.winegard.com/wireless?q=enterprise Never checked on the price, but it sure looks expensive. On Sat, Sep 9, 2017 at 11:59 AM, Rory Conaway wrote: > Mesh vendors aside, > > Peplink used to make a device specifically for this applic

Re: [AFMUG] Link to Large Boat

2017-09-11 Thread George Skorup
http://batswireless.com. Same stuff as Cambium's QDP. On 9/11/2017 12:51 PM, Christopher Gray wrote: I saw a nice automatic aiming mount made by Winegard: http://www.winegard.com/wireless?q=enterprise Never checked on the price, but it sure looks expensive. On Sat, Sep 9, 2017 at 11:59 AM, Ro

Re: [AFMUG] What happened to Trillion in Alabama

2017-09-11 Thread CBB - Jay Fuller
must be a different company - this was trillion https://www.bizjournals.com/birmingham/stories/1999/09/06/smallb1.html - Original Message - From: Jaime Solorza To: Animal Farm Sent: Monday, September 11, 2017 11:58 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] What happened to Trillion in Alabam

Re: [AFMUG] Packetflux Airfiber POE

2017-09-11 Thread Forrest Christian (List Account)
You're close. The AirFiber came out because I expected it to need more power than the 4 or 8 port port poe could handle. Nowadays it's just a single port version of the gige powerinjector, complete with internal jumpers, minus the sync. On Sep 11, 2017 11:41 AM, "George Skorup" wrote: I wan

[AFMUG] Fw: [Cambium-users] We need 450 SM's in the Virgin Islands

2017-09-11 Thread CBB - Jay Fuller
FYI - Original Message - From: Mike Meluskey To: cambium-us...@wispa.org Sent: Friday, September 8, 2017 9:01 AM Subject: [Cambium-users] We need 450 SM's in the Virgin Islands 450b's preferred. ROW will work. Aaron at Winncom is trying. Can you assist? Drop ship 200-500 to St. Cro

Re: [AFMUG] Packetflux Airfiber POE

2017-09-11 Thread Mathew Howard
You might want to consider renaming it or something, because it does tend to give the impression that you need something special for an airFiber. On Mon, Sep 11, 2017 at 1:37 PM, Forrest Christian (List Account) < li...@packetflux.com> wrote: > You're close. The AirFiber came out because I expe

Re: [AFMUG] Packetflux Airfiber POE

2017-09-11 Thread Josh Luthman
Or notes in the gigE powerinjector that says it works with *this radio *that radio *the next radio Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Sep 11, 2017 at 3:11 PM, Mathew Howard wrote: > You might want to consider renaming it or so

Re: [AFMUG] Packetflux Airfiber POE

2017-09-11 Thread George Skorup
Pretty sure that's why this is out of stock: http://store.packetflux.com/sitemonitor-gigabit-poe-injector-for-airfiber/ And this is the same price: http://store.packetflux.com/sitemonitor-single-port-gigabit-poe-injector/ Like Forrest said, it's a single-port PowerInjector w/o sync. Open it u

Re: [AFMUG] What happened to Trillion in Alabama

2017-09-11 Thread Rory Conaway
That’s the company. Here is the announcement when they got their funding. http://www.trillionusa.com/2010/09/15/trillion-communications-receives-59-million-broadband-grant-alabama/ here is when it got axed. http://www.selmatimesjournal.com/2012/10/04/massive-broadband-project-axed/ Just wonder

Re: [AFMUG] What happened to Trillion in Alabama

2017-09-11 Thread CBB - Jay Fuller
I remember reading about all of that when it happened. Some of the people who tried to put it together reorganized under a non-profit run by local church leaders - but from what I know - they got no where. Fiber is not cheap... :( - Original Message - From: Rory Conaway To: af

Re: [AFMUG] What happened to Trillion in Alabama

2017-09-11 Thread Bill Prince
I thought Trellium was an ore found in "the Expanse" in Star trek Enterprise. They used it for shielding against the spatial anomalies. bp On 9/10/2017 7:33 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller wrote: I heard stories and even used to talk to a guy who worked there.� Unfortunately a heart attack got him se

[AFMUG] 60GHz

2017-09-11 Thread Brett A Mansfield
Anyone know anything about the Mikrotik 60GHz stuff yet? I’m looking for some good gear and I use some Ignitenet. Ignitenet is great but so cost prohibitive. I’m hoping Mikrotik will have theirs released very soon as I need a couple hundred radios. Thank you, Brett A Mansfield

Re: [AFMUG] 60GHz

2017-09-11 Thread Chris Wright
Ignitenet is cost prohibitive? LOL Chris Wright Network Administrator -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Brett A Mansfield Sent: Monday, September 11, 2017 3:24 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] 60GHz Anyone know anything about the Mikrotik 60GHz st

Re: [AFMUG] 60GHz

2017-09-11 Thread Brett A Mansfield
I’m not sure why that is funny. The average CPE cost is much less than the Ignitenet radios. I’m not running fiber, which is also cost prohibitive without deep pockets. A good ROI for a WISP is 6-12 months. For fiber it’s 5-6 years. The reason being you’ll get many more service calls with wirel

Re: [AFMUG] 60GHz

2017-09-11 Thread Mike Hammett
https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp/posts/1297938056998310 - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Brett A Mansfield" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, September 11, 2017 5:24:23 PM Sub

Re: [AFMUG] 60GHz

2017-09-11 Thread Mike Hammett
Because IgniteNet is way cheaper than Siklu, which is way cheaper than everything else. There's links going for over $10k and IgniteNet is 1/10th of that. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - F

Re: [AFMUG] 60GHz

2017-09-11 Thread Brett A Mansfield
Yeah, that makes sense. I think Ignitenet is excellent price and quality wise when talking PTP. It’s PTMP that it is cost prohibitive I think. Thank you, Brett A Mansfield > On Sep 11, 2017, at 5:07 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: > > Because IgniteNet is way cheaper than Siklu, which is way cheaper t

Re: [AFMUG] 60GHz

2017-09-11 Thread Mathew Howard
It will be interesting to see what Mikrotik comes out with... but I notice that FCC application lists it as only going up to 62.64ghz - that's going to limit it's range compared to Ignitenet. On Mon, Sep 11, 2017 at 6:06 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: > https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp/posts/

Re: [AFMUG] 60GHz

2017-09-11 Thread Mathew Howard
It's certainly more expensive than most of us are used to with PTMP, but it's not really that bad... if you consider the cost of the APs, compared to something like PMP450 or LTE, it doesn't start to look so bad. On Mon, Sep 11, 2017 at 6:18 PM, Brett A Mansfield < li...@silverlakeinternet.com> wr

Re: [AFMUG] 60GHz

2017-09-11 Thread Chris Wright
Because IgniteNet is cheaper than anyone else out there. The only reason we all know their name is because their 60GHz radios deliver gigabit speeds for at least tenth of the cost of anyone else in the game. Why do you mention fiber? Chris Wright Network Administrator -Original Message

Re: [AFMUG] 60GHz

2017-09-11 Thread Brett A Mansfield
True, until you realize you can only put 8 or 16 customers on an AP. Their pricing isn’t terrible, and I’m going to be buying at least some Ignitenet for this project. I was just hoping for some less expensive stuff I can use for customers on the lower plans. Thank you, Brett A Mansfield > On

Re: [AFMUG] 60GHz

2017-09-11 Thread Mike Hammett
I don't think anyone has a higher CPE limit in 60 GHz. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Brett A Mansfield" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, September 11, 2017 7:31:25 PM Subject: Re:

Re: [AFMUG] 60GHz

2017-09-11 Thread Mathew Howard
Also, they are supposed to eventually support up to 32 clients. On Sep 11, 2017 8:49 PM, "Mike Hammett" wrote: > I don't think anyone has a higher CPE limit in 60 GHz. > > > > - > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > >

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2017-09-11 Thread Mike Hammett
If you could ask Cambium a question on their Elevate process or their roadmap, what would it be? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP

Re: [AFMUG] 60GHz

2017-09-11 Thread Brett A Mansfield
Eventually, yes. Thank you, Brett A Mansfield > On Sep 11, 2017, at 8:13 PM, Mathew Howard wrote: > > Also, they are supposed to eventually support up to 32 clients. > >> On Sep 11, 2017 8:49 PM, "Mike Hammett" wrote: >> I don't think anyone has a higher CPE limit in 60 GHz. >> >> >> >>