Re: [AFMUG] AF-5U vs. AF-5x

ernet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Ken Hohhof" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2016 9:14:08 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AF-5U vs. AF-5x Exactly. I don’t consider a minute of downtime acceptable on a backhaul, especially if you ha

Re: [AFMUG] AF-5U vs. AF-5x

: Tuesday, October 25, 2016 7:29 AM To: af Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AF-5U vs. AF-5x I think it all depends on the link. We have some links/APs on DFS channels that have been running for years without any DFS hits, and others that are pretty much unusable. On Tue, Oct 25, 2016 at 9:18 AM, Kurt

Re: [AFMUG] AF-5U vs. AF-5x

have >> reregistered on the new frequency. Their phone calls drop, their video >> pauses, they get kicked out of games, their VPN session to work drops. >> >> >> >> >> >> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Mike Hammett >> *Sent

Re: [AFMUG] AF-5U vs. AF-5x

, 2016 9:05 AM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] AF-5U vs. AF-5x > > > > There's still the LBT timer. > > > > - > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >

Re: [AFMUG] AF-5U vs. AF-5x

9:05 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AF-5U vs. AF-5x There's still the LBT timer. - Mike Hammett <http://www.ics-il.com/> Intelligent Computing Solutions <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolut

Re: [AFMUG] AF-5U vs. AF-5x

There's still the LBT timer. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Kurt Fankhauser" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2016 9:03:35 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG]

Re: [AFMUG] AF-5U vs. AF-5x

t; <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> > The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> > > > <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> > ---------------------- > *From: *"Ken Hohhof"

Re: [AFMUG] AF-5U vs. AF-5x

nt: Monday, October 24, 2016 9:14:47 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AF-5U vs. AF-5x I think PTP links are narrow beams and carefully engineered. On the other hand some PTP radios allow auto frequency change. I would be very cautious about using those frequencies and make sure the path isn’t inlin

Re: [AFMUG] AF-5U vs. AF-5x

The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Kurt Fankhauser" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, October 24, 2016 7:30:47 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AF-5U vs. AF-5x Is AF5X legal to transmit on 5600-5650mhz? Firmware 3.2.1 allows it to be selected. Is that a mistake? O

Re: [AFMUG] AF-5U vs. AF-5x

Well, the AF-5/5U does have a couple of good points over the 5X - because it can do full duplex, it can do quite a bit more throughput, you can use an entire 50mhz channel for one direction (I think something like 640Mbps, if you can get 10x to work), where the AF-5x can only do 75% of that at best

Re: [AFMUG] AF-5U vs. AF-5x

Original AF5 is twice the cost of 5X but it does full duplex. To me its more important to have all the 5GHZ band available rather than have full duplex in only the upper part of the band. On Mon, Oct 24, 2016 at 10:38 AM, Mathew Howard wrote: > Okay, but it still doesn't have any advantage over

Re: [AFMUG] AF-5U vs. AF-5x

Okay, but it still doesn't have any advantage over a normal AF5 in the US, does it? it looks to me like it would just lose you 5.47-5.7ghz, without gaining anything (in the US).

Re: [AFMUG] AF-5U vs. AF-5x

gt;> using the little AF5x dishes at around 5 miles in U-NII-1 and again, no >> suck. >> >> >> >> Are you trying to do 40 miles or something? >> >> >> >> >> >> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Josh Reynolds

Re: [AFMUG] AF-5U vs. AF-5x

h Reynolds > *Sent:* Monday, October 24, 2016 9:22 AM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] AF-5U vs. AF-5x > > > > Range on lower sucks. Also, the AF-U wouldn't support those. AF-5X would. > > > > On Oct 24, 2016 9:14 AM, "Ken Hohhof" wrote:

Re: [AFMUG] AF-5U vs. AF-5x

[mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Reynolds Sent: Monday, October 24, 2016 9:22 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AF-5U vs. AF-5x Range on lower sucks. Also, the AF-U wouldn't support those. AF-5X would. On Oct 24, 2016 9:14 AM, "Ken Hohhof" mailto:af...@kwisp.co

Re: [AFMUG] AF-5U vs. AF-5x

8:57 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AF-5U vs. AF-5x I am 60 miles from closest TDWR. I just thought it was odd that the AF5X allows transmit on that freq but the PMP450 AP has those frequencies greyed out. I figured that Cambium would be certified for more freqs than UBNT. Maybe

Re: [AFMUG] AF-5U vs. AF-5x

> not have lower 5 GHz non-DFS frequencies available to use instead? > > > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Kurt Fankhauser > *Sent:* Monday, October 24, 2016 8:57 AM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] AF-5U vs. AF-5x > >

Re: [AFMUG] AF-5U vs. AF-5x

All about CYA I expect. I think gear is certified for the band, not frequencies. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Oct 24, 2016 at 9:56 AM, Kurt Fankhauser wrote: > I am 60 miles from closest TDWR. I just thought it was odd

Re: [AFMUG] AF-5U vs. AF-5x

I am 60 miles from closest TDWR. I just thought it was odd that the AF5X allows transmit on that freq but the PMP450 AP has those frequencies greyed out. I figured that Cambium would be certified for more freqs than UBNT. Maybe cambium just made that choice to make those freqs unavailable. On Mon,

Re: [AFMUG] AF-5U vs. AF-5x

As long as you're at a safe distance yes. I'm sure you're more than 30 km from me for the TDWR here. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Oct 24, 2016 8:30 AM, "Kurt Fankhauser" wrote: > Is AF5X legal to transmit on 5600-5650mhz? Fir

Re: [AFMUG] AF-5U vs. AF-5x

Is AF5X legal to transmit on 5600-5650mhz? Firmware 3.2.1 allows it to be selected. Is that a mistake? On Mon, Oct 24, 2016 at 8:24 AM, Josh Reynolds wrote: > Yeah, the U is upper band only. > > The AF-5 goes down to 5470 (if the datasheet is still accurate). Very good > antennas, but limited ga

Re: [AFMUG] AF-5U vs. AF-5x

Yeah, the U is upper band only. The AF-5 goes down to 5470 (if the datasheet is still accurate). Very good antennas, but limited gain. 1024QAM. GPS sync. Good radio for the money, as long as it works for your link distance. On Oct 24, 2016 7:14 AM, "Josh Luthman" wrote: > I think one or two mod

Re: [AFMUG] AF-5U vs. AF-5x

I think one or two modulations. You can't do the lower frequencies on the U. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Oct 24, 2016 8:05 AM, "Paul McCall" wrote: > Is there any difference performance wise on these two? > > > > What is the

[AFMUG] AF-5U vs. AF-5x

Is there any difference performance wise on these two? What is the distance for full modulation on the AF-5U ? What is the longest link (at decent modulation) on the AF-5U