Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
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From: "Bill Prince"
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2015 9:52:23 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Did I miss Chucks opinion on Ubnt SunMax
I doubt there's anywhere
Unless it is the dumbest idea ever. Then it's just dumb. I haven't read the
rest of the thread but I see no way they can be disruptive on the price
front. I don't think they have any control over the largest cost factor and
a nice GUI isn't going to cut it.
On Fri, Oct 16, 2015, 12:46 PM D. Ryan S
Can you install these 'under the direction of a licensed electrician?'
Can you install all but the wiring and then bring in the electrician for
the final hook-up?
Can you find a local electrician and partner with them?
Makin' money is makin' money.
ryan
On 10/14/15 8:37 PM, Seth Mattinen wr
t is kinda what I was thinking. If the price was not several
>> thousand dollars, that might be a good option
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>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Bill Prince
>> *Sent:* Thursday, October 15, 2015 11:44 AM
>> *To:* af@afmug
..@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Bill Prince
> *Sent:* Thursday, October 15, 2015 11:44 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Did I miss Chucks opinion on Ubnt SunMax
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> There is a company out here that is selling a relatively small (SLA-type)
> battery system fo
and if
doesn’t’ have enough, then it relies on utility power?
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown
Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2015 10:23 PM
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Did I miss Chucks opinion on Ubnt SunMax
I have a grid tie
nd if doesn’t’ have enough, then it relies on utility power?
*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Chuck McCown
*Sent:* Wednesday, October 14, 2015 10:23 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Did I miss Chucks opinion on Ubnt SunMax
I have a grid tie inverter. Reduces
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> I have a grid tie inverter. Reduces my bill. A back up generator I much
> cheaper that batts.
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> *From:* Sterling Jacobson
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14, 2015 10:23 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Did I miss Chucks opinion on Ubnt SunMax
I have a grid tie inverter. Reduces my bill. A back up generator I much
cheaper that batts.
From: Sterling Jacobson<mailto:sterl...@avative.net>
Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2015 8:05 PM
ber 15, 2015 1:10 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Did I miss Chucks opinion on Ubnt SunMax
Liquid metal / flow batteries are not really commercially available,
unless you want a "trial" plant for utility scale that is a multiple
of 2, 4 or more 2
Wonder how hard it is to make a flow battery. ...
From: Eric Kuhnke
Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2015 1:10 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Did I miss Chucks opinion on Ubnt SunMax
Liquid metal / flow batteries are not really commercially available, unless you
want a "trial"
, 2015 9:37 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Did I miss Chucks opinion on Ubnt SunMax
On 10/14/15 7:51 PM, Mathew Howard wrote:
I think the idea is that it's supposed to be cheaper when you factor in
install costs... I have my doubts that'll work out, but I guess we'll
see onc
*To: *"af"
*Sent: *Wednesday, October 14, 2015 10:38:56 PM
*Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Did I miss Chucks opinion on Ubnt SunMax
Ummm. You can't do a grid tie without one in almost every area.
The utility won't install a net metering meter without one.
On Oct 14, 2015 8
's assuming you need an electrician or a permit.
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> *From: *"Forrest Christian (List Account)"
> *To: *"af"
> *Sent: *Wednesday
t: Re: [AFMUG] Did I miss Chucks opinion on Ubnt SunMax
Ummm. You can't do a grid tie without one in almost every area. The utility
won't install a net metering meter without one.
On Oct 14, 2015 8:37 PM, "Seth Mattinen" < se...@rollernet.us > wrote:
On 10/14/15 7
Sent:* Wednesday, October 14, 2015 7:46 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Did I miss Chucks opinion on Ubnt SunMax
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> The "best" battery may be somewhat subjective. I like the Tesla option,
> but it's not shipping yet. It would not work with t
: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Did I miss Chucks opinion on Ubnt SunMax
The "best" battery may be somewhat subjective. I like the Tesla option, but
it's not shipping yet. It would not work with the UBNT setup, as the battery
uses 400+ volts; so it's more of the DC-to-inve
On 10/14/15 8:38 PM, Forrest Christian (List Account) wrote:
Ummm. You can't do a grid tie without one in almost every area. The
utility won't install a net metering meter without one.
Yeah that's kinda my point... maybe we're just not disruptive enough to
see the way around that.
~Seth
Yep, it's not something that anyone can just go and do... there's going to
be a lot of hassle involved with getting these things hooked up.
On Wed, Oct 14, 2015 at 10:38 PM, Forrest Christian (List Account) <
li...@packetflux.com> wrote:
> Ummm. You can't do a grid tie without one in almost eve
Ummm. You can't do a grid tie without one in almost every area. The
utility won't install a net metering meter without one.
On Oct 14, 2015 8:37 PM, "Seth Mattinen" wrote:
> On 10/14/15 7:51 PM, Mathew Howard wrote:
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>> I think the idea is that it's supposed to be cheaper when you factor in
, 2015 6:46 PM, "Chuck McCown" wrote:
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>>>> $1 per watt for DIY systems.
>>>> That is without battery. A full battery system is going to cost you 3
>>>> times that or more.
>>>>
>>>> *From:* Sterling Jacobson
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On 10/14/15 7:51 PM, Mathew Howard wrote:
I think the idea is that it's supposed to be cheaper when you factor in
install costs... I have my doubts that'll work out, but I guess we'll
see once they actually start selling something.
I guess just don't get caught installing these in an area wher
times that or more.
*From:* Sterling Jacobson <mailto:sterl...@avative.net>
*Sent:* Wednesday, October 14, 2015 7:37 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Did I miss Chucks opinion on Ubnt
SunMax
n't seem very disruptive to me.
>> On Oct 14, 2015 6:46 PM, "Chuck McCown" wrote:
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>>> $1 per watt for DIY systems.
>>> That is without battery. A full battery system is going to cost you 3
>>> times that or more.
>>>
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IY systems.
>> That is without battery. A full battery system is going to cost you 3
>> times that or more.
>>
>> *From:* Sterling Jacobson
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 14, 2015 7:37 PM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Did I miss
* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Did I miss Chucks opinion on Ubnt SunMax
Yeah, they said $1.50 a watt purchased, but do it yourself installed.
I guess it’s nice having it converted on panel to AC.
But what’s this price vs. buying panels yourself and runn
the solar/batteries?
*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Chuck McCown
*Sent:* Wednesday, October 14, 2015 7:46 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Did I miss Chucks opinion on Ubnt SunMax
$1 per watt for DIY systems.
That is without battery. A full battery system is
A full battery system is going to cost you 3
> times that or more.
>
> *From:* Sterling Jacobson
> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 14, 2015 7:37 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Did I miss Chucks opinion on Ubnt SunMax
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> Yeah, they said $1.50 a watt purchase
I have a grid tie inverter. Reduces my bill. A back up generator I much
cheaper that batts.
From: Sterling Jacobson
Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2015 8:05 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Did I miss Chucks opinion on Ubnt SunMax
What’s the best battery system currently?
I
Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2015 7:46 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Did I miss Chucks opinion on Ubnt SunMax
$1 per watt for DIY systems.
That is without battery. A full battery system is going to cost you 3 times
that or more.
From: Sterling Jacobson<mailto:sterl...@avative.net>
$1 per watt for DIY systems.
That is without battery. A full battery system is going to cost you 3 times
that or more.
From: Sterling Jacobson
Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2015 7:37 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Did I miss Chucks opinion on Ubnt SunMax
Yeah, they said $1.50 a
much about selling back to the grid.
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mathew Howard
Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2015 7:27 PM
To: af
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Did I miss Chucks opinion on Ubnt SunMax
I think they mentioned something about under $1.50/watt,.. or something like
that
ng inspection authority here to do
> a grid tie system. Not sure this would fly. Did not see all the labels
> and disconnects that are required here.
>
> *From:* Craig Schmaderer
> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 14, 2015 5:25 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* [AFMUG] Did I mis
and disconnects that are required here.
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> *From:* Craig Schmaderer
> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 14, 2015 5:25 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* [AFMUG] Did I miss Chucks opinion on Ubnt SunMax
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> Not sure when they released this, but I just saw this on their website.
&
authority here to do a grid tie
system. Not sure this would fly. Did not see all the labels and disconnects
that are required here.
From: Craig Schmaderer
Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2015 5:25 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] Did I miss Chucks opinion on Ubnt SunMax
Not sure when they
They resisted calling it sunBeam?
From: Craig Schmaderer
Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2015 6:25 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] Did I miss Chucks opinion on Ubnt SunMax
Not sure when they released this, but I just saw this on their website.
https://www.ubnt.com/sunmax/
Not sure when they released this, but I just saw this on their website.
https://www.ubnt.com/sunmax/
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