Re: [AFMUG] Does anyone have a 28-34dBi 2.4GHz 2x2 MIMO antenna

2017-05-16 Thread Rory Conaway
an interesting discussion, no doubt. Rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 2:38 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Does anyone have a 28-34dBi 2.4GHz 2x2 MIMO antenna Seriously, I wonder what the market would be if I put a 4.5” pipe on my 60

Re: [AFMUG] Does anyone have a 28-34dBi 2.4GHz 2x2 MIMO antenna

2017-05-16 Thread Chuck McCown
Seriously, I wonder what the market would be if I put a 4.5” pipe on my 60” slope mount. From: Chuck McCown Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 3:35 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Does anyone have a 28-34dBi 2.4GHz 2x2 MIMO antenna It will work, for a while... From: Eric Kuhnke Sent

Re: [AFMUG] Does anyone have a 28-34dBi 2.4GHz 2x2 MIMO antenna

2017-05-16 Thread Chuck McCown
It will work, for a while... From: Eric Kuhnke Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 3:27 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Does anyone have a 28-34dBi 2.4GHz 2x2 MIMO antenna Chuck, looks great for smaller stuff and tapering towers. But I seriously hope you are not recommending mounting an 8

Re: [AFMUG] Does anyone have a 28-34dBi 2.4GHz 2x2 MIMO antenna

2017-05-16 Thread Chuck McCown
Or if you want the really good stuff: http://www.mccowntech.com/product_images/import/M-TOW-SM60.PDF From: Eric Kuhnke Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 3:15 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Does anyone have a 28-34dBi 2.4GHz 2x2 MIMO antenna Yeah, the strut and attachment hardware

Re: [AFMUG] Does anyone have a 28-34dBi 2.4GHz 2x2 MIMO antenna

2017-05-16 Thread Eric Kuhnke
the tower. > > -- > *From:* Af <af-boun...@afmug.com> on behalf of Eric Kuhnke < > eric.kuh...@gmail.com> > *Sent:* Tuesday, May 16, 2017 3:11:35 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Does anyone have a 28-34dBi 2.4GHz 2x2 MIMO antenna

Re: [AFMUG] Does anyone have a 28-34dBi 2.4GHz 2x2 MIMO antenna

2017-05-16 Thread Jaime Solorza
>> >> >> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Mitch Koep >> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 16, 2017 11:04 AM >> *To:* af@afmug.com >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Does anyone have a 28-34dBi 2.4GHz 2x2 MIMO >> antenna >> >> >> >&

Re: [AFMUG] Does anyone have a 28-34dBi 2.4GHz 2x2 MIMO antenna

2017-05-16 Thread Jesse Dupont
gt;] On Behalf Of Mitch Koep Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 11:04 AM To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Does anyone have a 28-34dBi 2.4GHz 2x2 MIMO antenna These are not real fun Especially over 170 feet pray for a calm day and a good crane operator Mitch On 05/1

Re: [AFMUG] Does anyone have a 28-34dBi 2.4GHz 2x2 MIMO antenna

2017-05-16 Thread Eric Kuhnke
> > The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> > > > <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> > ---------- > *From: *"Eric Kuhnke" <eric.kuh...@gmail.com> > *T

Re: [AFMUG] Does anyone have a 28-34dBi 2.4GHz 2x2 MIMO antenna

2017-05-16 Thread Mitch Koep
:* Tuesday, May 16, 2017 11:04 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Does anyone have a 28-34dBi 2.4GHz 2x2 MIMO antenna These are not real fun Especially over 170 feet pray for a calm day and a good crane operator Mitch On 05/16/2017 11:22 AM, Chuck McCown wrote: 16’ dish *From

Re: [AFMUG] Does anyone have a 28-34dBi 2.4GHz 2x2 MIMO antenna

2017-05-16 Thread Mike Hammett
<eric.kuh...@gmail.com> To: af@afmug.com Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 3:50:07 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Does anyone have a 28-34dBi 2.4GHz 2x2 MIMO antenna An 8' dish is way over 500 pounds. Do you have any idea how expensive it is to put an 8' dish on a tower??? And have you calculated if the tow

Re: [AFMUG] Does anyone have a 28-34dBi 2.4GHz 2x2 MIMO antenna

2017-05-16 Thread Eric Kuhnke
is under 500lbs. > > > > Rory > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Mitch Koep > *Sent:* Tuesday, May 16, 2017 11:04 AM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Does anyone have a 28-34dBi 2.4GHz 2x2 MIMO antenna > > > > Th

Re: [AFMUG] Does anyone have a 28-34dBi 2.4GHz 2x2 MIMO antenna

2017-05-16 Thread Jaime Solorza
idges. > > > > Rory > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Jaime Solorza > *Sent:* Tuesday, May 16, 2017 10:18 AM > *To:* Animal Farm <af@afmug.com> > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Does anyone have a 28-34dBi 2.4GHz 2x2 MIMO antenna >

Re: [AFMUG] Does anyone have a 28-34dBi 2.4GHz 2x2 MIMO antenna

2017-05-16 Thread Colin Stanners
; > > > Rory > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Mitch Koep > *Sent:* Tuesday, May 16, 2017 11:04 AM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Does anyone have a 28-34dBi 2.4GHz 2x2 MIMO antenna > > > > These are not rea

Re: [AFMUG] Does anyone have a 28-34dBi 2.4GHz 2x2 MIMO antenna

2017-05-16 Thread Rory Conaway
I’m going to use a man-lift assuming the antenna is under 500lbs. Rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mitch Koep Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 11:04 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Does anyone have a 28-34dBi 2.4GHz 2x2 MIMO antenna These are not real fun

Re: [AFMUG] Does anyone have a 28-34dBi 2.4GHz 2x2 MIMO antenna

2017-05-16 Thread Mathew Howard
have done that though, under bridges. > > > > Rory > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Jaime Solorza > *Sent:* Tuesday, May 16, 2017 10:18 AM > *To:* Animal Farm <af@afmug.com> > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Does anyone have a 28-34dBi 2.4

Re: [AFMUG] Does anyone have a 28-34dBi 2.4GHz 2x2 MIMO antenna

2017-05-16 Thread Rory Conaway
I’ve got a ledge in the middle. I have done that though, under bridges. Rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jaime Solorza Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 10:18 AM To: Animal Farm <af@afmug.com> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Does anyone have a 28-34dBi 2.4GHz 2x2 MIMO antenna Ha

Re: [AFMUG] Does anyone have a 28-34dBi 2.4GHz 2x2 MIMO antenna

2017-05-16 Thread Jaime Solorza
s AF2 through trees. I’m thinking >> that I’m bringing up a pair of ePMP 2.4GHz radios also to compare. I’m >> also considering putting up a Cambium 450i 900MHz as backup with a Yagi. >> >> >> >> Rory >> >> >> >> *From:* Af [

Re: [AFMUG] Does anyone have a 28-34dBi 2.4GHz 2x2 MIMO antenna

2017-05-16 Thread Jaime Solorza
t; *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Chuck McCown > *Sent:* Tuesday, May 16, 2017 6:44 AM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Does anyone have a 28-34dBi 2.4GHz 2x2 MIMO antenna > > > > Actually, you would be surprised. I have asked them to

Re: [AFMUG] Does anyone have a 28-34dBi 2.4GHz 2x2 MIMO antenna

2017-05-16 Thread Chuck McCown
16’ dish From: Mathew Howard Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 10:18 AM To: af Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Does anyone have a 28-34dBi 2.4GHz 2x2 MIMO antenna Yeah, but what if it doesn't work with the 8' dish? once you have some kind of a link in place, it's pretty easy to get a good idea of what's going

Re: [AFMUG] Does anyone have a 28-34dBi 2.4GHz 2x2 MIMO antenna

2017-05-16 Thread Mathew Howard
> > > > *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Gino A. Villarini > *Sent:* Tuesday, May 16, 2017 8:36 AM > > > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Does anyone have a 28-34dBi 2.4GHz 2x2 MIMO antenna > > > > Cambium LinkPlanner would help

Re: [AFMUG] Does anyone have a 28-34dBi 2.4GHz 2x2 MIMO antenna

2017-05-16 Thread Eric Muehleisen
he link work. > > > > Rory > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Mathew Howard > *Sent:* Tuesday, May 16, 2017 9:04 AM > *To:* af > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Does anyone have a 28-34dBi 2.4GHz 2x2 MIMO antenna > > > > Putting up an 8'

Re: [AFMUG] Does anyone have a 28-34dBi 2.4GHz 2x2 MIMO antenna

2017-05-16 Thread Rory Conaway
rini Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 8:36 AM To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Does anyone have a 28-34dBi 2.4GHz 2x2 MIMO antenna Cambium LinkPlanner would help you get a good guess of your outcome, use the PTP 25600 Radio as a AF2 replacement in your calcs, add the foli

Re: [AFMUG] Does anyone have a 28-34dBi 2.4GHz 2x2 MIMO antenna

2017-05-16 Thread Colin Stanners
Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com> > Date: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 at 11:18 AM > To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Does anyone have a 28-34dBi 2.4GHz 2x2 MIMO antenna > > Not in this case. If they won’t let me put a 1 or 2’

Re: [AFMUG] Does anyone have a 28-34dBi 2.4GHz 2x2 MIMO antenna

2017-05-16 Thread Mathew Howard
36 AM > > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Does anyone have a 28-34dBi 2.4GHz 2x2 MIMO antenna > > > > Cambium LinkPlanner would help you get a good guess of your outcome, use > the PTP 25600 Radio as a AF2 replacement in your calcs, add the foliage and >

Re: [AFMUG] Does anyone have a 28-34dBi 2.4GHz 2x2 MIMO antenna

2017-05-16 Thread Rory Conaway
I ran the numbers in linkplanner. Too much tree variable for anything to be accurate. Rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Gino A. Villarini Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 8:36 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Does anyone have a 28-34dBi 2.4GHz 2x2 MIMO antenna

Re: [AFMUG] Does anyone have a 28-34dBi 2.4GHz 2x2 MIMO antenna

2017-05-16 Thread Rory Conaway
450i 900MHz as backup with a Yagi. Rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 6:44 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Does anyone have a 28-34dBi 2.4GHz 2x2 MIMO antenna Actually, you would be surprised. I have asked them to remove

Re: [AFMUG] Does anyone have a 28-34dBi 2.4GHz 2x2 MIMO antenna

2017-05-16 Thread Chuck McCown
Actually, you would be surprised. I have asked them to remove trees in a microwave path before and they had no problem doing it. From: Rory Conaway Sent: Monday, May 15, 2017 9:15 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Does anyone have a 28-34dBi 2.4GHz 2x2 MIMO antenna I’d like to stay

Re: [AFMUG] Does anyone have a 28-34dBi 2.4GHz 2x2 MIMO antenna

2017-05-16 Thread Gino A. Villarini
o: "af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>" <af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Does anyone have a 28-34dBi 2.4GHz 2x2 MIMO antenna Not even close. Rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Colin Stanners Sent: Monday, May 15, 2017 8:25 PM

Re: [AFMUG] Does anyone have a 28-34dBi 2.4GHz 2x2 MIMO antenna

2017-05-15 Thread Rory Conaway
Not even close. Rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Colin Stanners Sent: Monday, May 15, 2017 8:25 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Does anyone have a 28-34dBi 2.4GHz 2x2 MIMO antenna 900mhz PTP450 doesn't give enough bandwidth? On Mon, May 15, 2017 at 10:15 PM

Re: [AFMUG] Does anyone have a 28-34dBi 2.4GHz 2x2 MIMO antenna

2017-05-15 Thread Jeremy
through a mile of trees with AF2x radio so I’m probably >> going to for the 6’ or 8’ dishes. >> >> >> >> Rory >> >> >> >> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Colin Stanners >> *Sent:* Sunday, May 14, 2017 7:05 PM >>

Re: [AFMUG] Does anyone have a 28-34dBi 2.4GHz 2x2 MIMO antenna

2017-05-15 Thread Colin Stanners
lto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Eric Kuhnke > *Sent:* Monday, May 15, 2017 1:23 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Does anyone have a 28-34dBi 2.4GHz 2x2 MIMO antenna > > > > Have you considered the rigging/hoisting and mounting costs of 8' dishes, > v

Re: [AFMUG] Does anyone have a 28-34dBi 2.4GHz 2x2 MIMO antenna

2017-05-15 Thread Eric Kuhnke
gh a mile of trees with AF2x radio so I’m probably > going to for the 6’ or 8’ dishes. > > > > Rory > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Colin Stanners > *Sent:* Sunday, May 14, 2017 7:05 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG

Re: [AFMUG] Does anyone have a 28-34dBi 2.4GHz 2x2 MIMO antenna

2017-05-15 Thread Mathew Howard
//www.thebrotherswisp.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> > > > <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> > ---------- > *From: *"Mitch Koep" <af...@abwisp.com> > *To: *af@afmug.com > *Sent

Re: [AFMUG] Does anyone have a 28-34dBi 2.4GHz 2x2 MIMO antenna

2017-05-15 Thread Rory Conaway
interference, and I won’t, it’s a pretty good option. Rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Monday, May 15, 2017 6:47 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Does anyone have a 28-34dBi 2.4GHz 2x2 MIMO antenna Not for PtP. - Mike Hammett Intelligent

Re: [AFMUG] Does anyone have a 28-34dBi 2.4GHz 2x2 MIMO antenna

2017-05-15 Thread Mike Hammett
om ] On Behalf Of Colin Stanners Sent: Sunday, May 14, 2017 7:05 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Does anyone have a 28-34dBi 2.4GHz 2x2 MIMO antenna Gain is never an exact number as it always varies over the covered frequency range and polarization, but from what I understand Ubiqui

Re: [AFMUG] Does anyone have a 28-34dBi 2.4GHz 2x2 MIMO antenna

2017-05-15 Thread Mike Hammett
Mitch Koep" <af...@abwisp.com> To: af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, May 15, 2017 8:30:07 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Does anyone have a 28-34dBi 2.4GHz 2x2 MIMO antenna Rory Won't that be well over legal limits? Mitch On 05/15/2017 08:23 AM, Rory Conaway wrote: I’ve got to punc

Re: [AFMUG] Does anyone have a 28-34dBi 2.4GHz 2x2 MIMO antenna

2017-05-15 Thread Chuck McCown
That sounds futile. What kind of trees? Can you get any signal through at all with smaller dishes to gauge how well it will work with larger dishes? From: Rory Conaway Sent: Monday, May 15, 2017 7:23 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Does anyone have a 28-34dBi 2.4GHz 2x2 MIMO antenna

Re: [AFMUG] Does anyone have a 28-34dBi 2.4GHz 2x2 MIMO antenna

2017-05-15 Thread Mitch Koep
:* Sunday, May 14, 2017 7:05 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Does anyone have a 28-34dBi 2.4GHz 2x2 MIMO antenna Gain is never an exact number as it always varies over the covered frequency range and polarization, but from what I understand Ubiquiti overstates their gain by 2-3 db over

Re: [AFMUG] Does anyone have a 28-34dBi 2.4GHz 2x2 MIMO antenna

2017-05-15 Thread Rory Conaway
I’ve got to punch through a mile of trees with AF2x radio so I’m probably going to for the 6’ or 8’ dishes. Rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Colin Stanners Sent: Sunday, May 14, 2017 7:05 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Does anyone have a 28-34dBi 2.4GHz 2x2

Re: [AFMUG] Does anyone have a 28-34dBi 2.4GHz 2x2 MIMO antenna

2017-05-14 Thread Colin Stanners
Gain is never an exact number as it always varies over the covered frequency range and polarization, but from what I understand Ubiquiti overstates their gain by 2-3 db over the 'industry standard' measurements. Similar to how they say the AF24 can go up to 10miles, which is effectively bs, the

Re: [AFMUG] Does anyone have a 28-34dBi 2.4GHz 2x2 MIMO antenna

2017-05-14 Thread Christopher Gray
Gain is not quite as high as you are asking for, but L-Com goes up to a 900mm dish. I can't quite tell if UBNT over states their gain, L-Com understates their gain, or if there is another fundamental difference, but the L-Com 900mm dish is only rated at 25 dBi. I have not used it, but I've been

Re: [AFMUG] Does anyone have a 28-34dBi 2.4GHz 2x2 MIMO antenna

2017-05-14 Thread Jaime Solorza
I think TxPro makes such an antenna On May 14, 2017 3:22 PM, "Eric Kuhnke" wrote: > I have not seen one that is anywhere near reasonably priced and can be > equipped with a (first party or third party) side shield/radome kit. The > Radiowaves stuff exists but is a design

Re: [AFMUG] Does anyone have a 28-34dBi 2.4GHz 2x2 MIMO antenna

2017-05-13 Thread Rory Conaway
That’s okay. I’ll check it out. Thanks. Rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Colin Stanners Sent: Saturday, May 13, 2017 2:50 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Does anyone have a 28-34dBi 2.4GHz 2x2 MIMO antenna http://www.ispsupplies.com/Radiowaves-SPD6-2-4

Re: [AFMUG] Does anyone have a 28-34dBi 2.4GHz 2x2 MIMO antenna

2017-05-13 Thread Colin Stanners
http://www.ispsupplies.com/Radiowaves-SPD6-2-4 Although if you're mentioning Ubiquiti, Radiowaves is a whole different budget class. On May 13, 2017 4:43 PM, "Rory Conaway" wrote: > Looking for something bigger than the Ubiquiti RD-24 dish. > > > > Rory >

[AFMUG] Does anyone have a 28-34dBi 2.4GHz 2x2 MIMO antenna

2017-05-13 Thread Rory Conaway
Looking for something bigger than the Ubiquiti RD-24 dish. Rory