[AFMUG] ET Industries beamforming antennas

2015-04-20 Thread Josh Reynolds
Does anybody here have experience with these? Hit me up off list. Thanks -- Josh Reynolds CIO, SPITwSPOTS www.spitwspots.com

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2015-04-20 Thread Peter Kranz
Josh Reynolds Sent: Monday, April 20, 2015 10:48 AM To: WISPA General List; af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] ET Industries beamforming antennas Does anybody here have experience with these? Hit me up off list. Thanks -- Josh Reynolds CIO, SPITwSPOTS www.spitwspots.com

Re: [AFMUG] ET Industries beamforming antennas

2015-04-20 Thread Adam Moffett
I met with the company in New Jersey. Everything sounded awesome. We never pulled the trigger because they were a bit too large and a bit too expensive. I imagine you're in the same spot. On 4/20/2015 1:48 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote: Does anybody here have experience with these? Hit me up off l

Re: [AFMUG] ET Industries beamforming antennas

2015-04-20 Thread Josh Reynolds
The quote we received was very do-able. Roughly $6,500. If they work we'll buy a lot more. Josh Reynolds CIO, SPITwSPOTS www.spitwspots.com On 04/20/2015 09:54 AM, Adam Moffett wrote: I met with the company in New Jersey. Everything sounded awesome. We never pulled the trigger because they we

Re: [AFMUG] ET Industries beamforming antennas

2015-04-20 Thread Peter Kranz
: Monday, April 20, 2015 11:03 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ET Industries beamforming antennas The quote we received was very do-able. Roughly $6,500. If they work we'll buy a lot more. Josh Reynolds CIO, SPITwSPOTS www.spitwspots.com On 04/20/2015 09:54 AM, Adam Moffett wrote: &g

Re: [AFMUG] ET Industries beamforming antennas

2015-04-20 Thread Josh Reynolds
-1614 x100 Mobile: 510-207- pkr...@unwiredltd.com -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Reynolds Sent: Monday, April 20, 2015 11:03 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ET Industries beamforming antennas The quote we received was very do-able

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2015-04-20 Thread Josh Reynolds
7- pkr...@unwiredltd.com -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Reynolds Sent: Monday, April 20, 2015 11:03 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ET Industries beamforming antennas The quote we received was very do-able. Roughly $6,500. If they work w

Re: [AFMUG] ET Industries beamforming antennas

2015-04-20 Thread Jon Langeler
4 x100 > Mobile: 510-207- > pkr...@unwiredltd.com > > -Original Message- > From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Reynolds > Sent: Monday, April 20, 2015 11:03 AM > To: af@afmug.com > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ET Industries beamforming antennas >

Re: [AFMUG] ET Industries beamforming antennas

2015-04-20 Thread Peter Kranz
From: Peter Kranz [mailto:pkr...@unwiredltd.com] Sent: Friday, May 09, 2014 12:45 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: PMP450 Beamforming testing - Introduction and lab test results We recently completed lab testing of the ET Industries 8 beam system in combination with Cambium

Re: [AFMUG] ET Industries beamforming antennas

2015-04-20 Thread Peter Kranz
I'm not aware of a competitor at this time.. We wanted 120 degrees of coverage made up of 8 radios with 15 degrees of coverage per radio in a compact format.. Peter Kranz www.UnwiredLtd.com Desk: 510-868-1614 x100 Mobile: 510-207- pkr...@unwiredltd.com

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2015-04-20 Thread Eric Kuhnke
"Buying 8 PMP450�s is going to drain your wallet" There's the understatement of the week Eric Kuhnke e...@kuhnke-international.com On 4/20/15 11:41 AM, Peter Kranz wrote: I'm not aware of a competitor at this time.. We wanted 120 degrees of coverag

Re: [AFMUG] ET Industries beamforming antennas

2015-04-20 Thread Gino Villarini
Can't you achieve that with tight panels and sync Gino A. Villarini @gvillarini > On Apr 20, 2015, at 2:42 PM, Peter Kranz wrote: > > I'm not aware of a competitor at this time.. We wanted 120 degrees of > coverage made up of 8 radios with 15 degrees of coverage per radio in a > compact forma

Re: [AFMUG] ET Industries beamforming antennas

2015-04-20 Thread Adam Moffett
Is a 15 degree panel even a thing you can get? On 4/20/2015 3:03 PM, Gino Villarini wrote: Can't you achieve that with tight panels and sync Gino A. Villarini @gvillarini On Apr 20, 2015, at 2:42 PM, Peter Kranz wrote: I'm not aware of a competitor at this time.. We wanted 120 degrees of

Re: [AFMUG] ET Industries beamforming antennas

2015-04-20 Thread Eric Kuhnke
Seems like that that point you are better off building a ring-topology network composed of 100% PTP links and dishes. If you can still reach all the required clients doing it. Eric Kuhnke e...@kuhnke-international.com On 4/20/15 12:04 PM, Adam Moffett wrote: Is a 15 degree panel even a thin

Re: [AFMUG] ET Industries beamforming antennas

2015-04-20 Thread Bill Prince
Good luck finding a 15 degree panel. Hell, even finding a decent 30 degree panel is a challenge. bp On 4/20/2015 12:03 PM, Gino Villarini wrote: Can't you achieve that with tight panels and sync Gino A. Villarini @gvillarini On Apr 20, 2015, at 2:42 PM, Peter Kranz wrote: I'm not aware

Re: [AFMUG] ET Industries beamforming antennas

2015-04-20 Thread Bill Prince
In a couple of places, we have used nanobeams to make an 8 x 8 degree "sector". If you have tight clusters of subscribers, separated by some space, it works OK. If I did more of them, I would probably switch to ePMP and force110 so that I could better utilize spectrum. bp On 4/20/2015 12:05

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2015-04-20 Thread Sean Heskett
Here's a 10* panel we are going to try this summer http://www.mars-antennas.com/sites/mars/UserContent/files/PdfFromCatalogue/MA-WA56-DP23.pdf -sean On Monday, April 20, 2015, Bill Prince wrote: > Good luck finding a 15 degree panel. Hell, even finding a decent 30 degree > panel is a challeng

Re: [AFMUG] ET Industries beamforming antennas

2015-04-20 Thread Mark Radabaugh
but but... your going to have to use a sync capable AP if you want to use these (I believe). Isn't that against your religion? Mark On 4/20/15 2:03 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote: The quote we received was very do-able. Roughly $6,500. If they work we'll buy a lot more. Josh Reynolds CIO, SPITwSP

Re: [AFMUG] ET Industries beamforming antennas

2015-04-20 Thread Josh Reynolds
After looking at how the system is setup and talking to ET, that doesn't seem to be the case. Josh Reynolds CIO, SPITwSPOTS www.spitwspots.com On 04/20/2015 11:47 AM, Mark Radabaugh wrote: but but... your going to have to use a sync capable AP if you want to use these (I believe). Isn't that

Re: [AFMUG] ET Industries beamforming antennas

2015-04-20 Thread Bill Prince
Check with Peter. I think if you used a non-sync AP, the front end receivers would be overloaded. bp On 4/20/2015 12:49 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote: After looking at how the system is setup and talking to ET, that doesn't seem to be the case. Josh Reynolds CIO, SPITwSPOTS www.spitwspots.com On

Re: [AFMUG] ET Industries beamforming antennas

2015-04-20 Thread Josh Reynolds
We were worried about that as well. After talking to ETI, we may be doing a trial with one of their APs, 6 RM5AC-PTMP, with a bag of RPSMA notch filters on hand. There are some things that I'm seeing that I'm not liking though, mainly gain on the edge beams. Josh Reynolds CIO, SPITwSPOTS www

Re: [AFMUG] ET Industries beamforming antennas

2015-04-20 Thread Gino Villarini
Good luck with that Gino A. Villarini President On 4/20/15, 3:49 PM, "Josh Reynolds" wrote: >After looking at how the system is setup and talking to ET, that doesn't >seem to be the case. > >Josh Reynolds >CIO, SPITwSPOTS >www.spitwspots.com > >On 04/20/2015 11:47 AM, Mark Radabaugh wrote

Re: [AFMUG] ET Industries beamforming antennas

2015-04-20 Thread Josh Reynolds
*shrug* If it works, cool. If not, it's not a huge dealbreaker. 3 other beamforming systems waiting in the wings that should be out in the next few months. Josh Reynolds CIO, SPITwSPOTS www.spitwspots.com On 04/20/2015 11:57 AM, Gino Villarini wrote: Good luck with that Gino A. Villarini P

Re: [AFMUG] ET Industries beamforming antennas

2015-04-20 Thread Bill Prince
Just FYI, I talked with them quite a bit, and they considered Peter's 8-sector configuration to be somewhat "non kosher". They preferred not using the outer sectors, as the gain was sub-optimum. So they suggested that a 6-sector configuration would actually work much better (same as Peter's, ju

Re: [AFMUG] ET Industries beamforming antennas

2015-04-20 Thread Josh Reynolds
Gain and BW look good. Xpol, F/B isolation, not so hot :[ Josh Reynolds CIO, SPITwSPOTS www.spitwspots.com On 04/20/2015 11:30 AM, Sean Heskett wrote: Here's a 10* panel we are going to try this summer http://www.mars-antennas.com/sites/mars/UserContent/files/PdfFromCatalogue/MA-WA56-DP23.pdf

Re: [AFMUG] ET Industries beamforming antennas

2015-04-20 Thread Tushar Patel
sted. > > Peter Kranz > www.UnwiredLtd.com > Desk: 510-868-1614 x100 > Mobile: 510-207- > pkr...@unwiredltd.com > > -Original Message- > From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Reynolds > Sent: Monday, April 20, 2015 11:03 AM > To: af@afmug.com &g

Re: [AFMUG] ET Industries beamforming antennas

2015-04-20 Thread Peter Kranz
Patel Sent: Monday, April 20, 2015 4:37 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ET Industries beamforming antennas I remember talking to ET, wasn't there some restrictions on ap can't be put as spectrum analyzer? Tushar > On Apr 20, 2015, at 1:15 PM, Peter Kranz wrote: >

Re: [AFMUG] ET Industries beamforming antennas

2015-04-20 Thread Ken Hohhof
Sounds like an AP losing GPS sync for whatever reason could let the magic smoke out of all 8 of your APs? That's a scary thought. -Original Message- From: Peter Kranz Sent: Monday, April 20, 2015 6:43 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ET Industries beamforming antennas

Re: [AFMUG] ET Industries beamforming antennas

2015-04-20 Thread Peter Kranz
mug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ET Industries beamforming antennas Sounds like an AP losing GPS sync for whatever reason could let the magic smoke out of all 8 of your APs? That's a scary thought. -Original Message- From: Peter Kranz Sent: Monday, April 20, 2015 6:43 PM To: af@a

Re: [AFMUG] ET Industries beamforming antennas

2015-04-20 Thread Stefan Englhardt
Rfelements releases horn antennas which they claim have a sharper cutoff at the edges. Should help with dense deployments. Had my fingers on them at MUM. Mechanically well built. simper.rfelements.com. They did some work to avoid cables in the rf path.

Re: [AFMUG] ET Industries beamforming antennas

2015-04-20 Thread Josh Reynolds
I'll let you know the test results with them soon.. On April 20, 2015 9:00:12 PM AKDT, Stefan Englhardt wrote: >Rfelements releases horn antennas which they claim have a sharper >cutoff at the edges. Should help with dense deployments. Had my fingers >on them at MUM. Mechanically well built. simp

Re: [AFMUG] ET Industries beamforming antennas

2015-04-20 Thread Daniel Gerlach
we have build a redline Wimax 3.5 ghz Network with 120 Basestations with the ETI Stuff in IRAQ and this works great.. 2015-04-21 7:01 GMT+02:00 Josh Reynolds : > I'll let you know the test results with them soon.. > > On April 20, 2015 9:00:12 PM AKDT, Stefan Englhardt wrote: >> >> Rfelements rel

Re: [AFMUG] ET Industries beamforming antennas

2015-04-20 Thread Josh Reynolds
Balad? Where? On April 20, 2015 9:14:52 PM AKDT, Daniel Gerlach wrote: >we have build a redline Wimax 3.5 ghz Network with 120 Basestations >with the ETI Stuff in IRAQ and this works great.. > >2015-04-21 7:01 GMT+02:00 Josh Reynolds : >> I'll let you know the test results with them soon.. >> >>

Re: [AFMUG] ET Industries beamforming antennas

2015-04-20 Thread Daniel Gerlach
Arbil & Duhok 2015-04-21 8:33 GMT+02:00 Josh Reynolds : > Balad? Where? > > On April 20, 2015 9:14:52 PM AKDT, Daniel Gerlach > wrote: >> >> we have build a redline Wimax 3.5 ghz Network with 120 Basestations >> with the ETI Stuff in IRAQ and this works great.. >> >> 2015-04-21 7:01 GMT+02:00 Jos

Re: [AFMUG] ET Industries beamforming antennas

2015-04-21 Thread Josh Reynolds
Interesting On April 20, 2015 10:41:38 PM AKDT, Daniel Gerlach wrote: >Arbil & Duhok > >2015-04-21 8:33 GMT+02:00 Josh Reynolds : >> Balad? Where? >> >> On April 20, 2015 9:14:52 PM AKDT, Daniel Gerlach > >> wrote: >>> >>> we have build a redline Wimax 3.5 ghz Network with 120 Basestations >>> w

Re: [AFMUG] ET Industries beamforming antennas

2015-04-21 Thread Dennis Burgess
, April 20, 2015 12:48 PM To: WISPA General List; af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] ET Industries beamforming antennas Does anybody here have experience with these? Hit me up off list. Thanks -- Josh Reynolds CIO, SPITwSPOTS www.spitwspots.com