Re: [AFMUG] OT: Google knows

26, 2017 2:54 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: Google knows Wait you're comparing encrypted iMessages to Android SMS text messages. Not exactly the same thing. If you're comparing iMessage SMS to Android SMS, I fully expect everyone's reading them. If you're comparing i

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Google knows

because that’s how the web works. And if the webserver is delegating SSL to the men in the middle, things might not be as secure as we think. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2017 2:54 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT

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Wait you're comparing encrypted iMessages to Android SMS text messages. Not exactly the same thing. If you're comparing iMessage SMS to Android SMS, I fully expect everyone's reading them. If you're comparing iMessage/Hangouts encrypted messages, those are encrypted and unable to be read. Josh

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But then he goes on to say: "In the meantime, Green recommends that users update to iOS 9.3 and the latest version of OS X, which implement fixes that mitigate some, though not all, of the vulnerability.”. Curious if this vulnerability is still around on iOS 10.2 as the article was written a

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I guess I should have said that Apple isn't reading every message to try and get customer data, like Google does and freely admits. They do it on their searches, Gmail, and everything else they are involved with. Travis On 2/25/2017 12:05 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote: That's bullshit. iMessage is

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"Green complimented iMessage for using “end-to-end encryption” dating back to 2011, but unfortunately it appears as though Apple uses the term quite loosely. True end-to-end encryption would keep messaging conversations between only those participating internally. Apple’s protection of iMessage

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You said you don't see where it states that, then you talk about the part where it states exactly what I said. I give up. On Feb 25, 2017 1:43 PM, "Cassidy B. Larson" wrote: > I see nothing in that article that says iMessages are stored unencrypted > on Apples servers, which

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Dont get me wrong, I’m NOT saying iMessage is true end-to-end encryption, just that the messages aren’t stored unencrypted on the server. > On Feb 25, 2017, at 12:43 PM, Cassidy B. Larson wrote: > > I see nothing in that article that says iMessages are stored unencrypted on

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I see nothing in that article that says iMessages are stored unencrypted on Apples servers, which is what you initial stated. I do see it state: "If a hacker were to take hold of the key server, they would in turn be able to intercept messages as they are being typed — those that have not

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http://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/despite-apples-push-for-encryption-imessage-remains-insecure/ On Feb 25, 2017 1:35 PM, "Cassidy B. Larson" wrote: > I’m not sure I agree with that. Just reading up on this article from > August of last year: > >

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I’m not sure I agree with that. Just reading up on this article from August of last year: http://www.tomshardware.com/news/imessage-weak-encryption-matthew-green,32466.html Couple of points from the article:

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That's bullshit. iMessage is not encrypted on Apple servers, which the messages pass through. This is why iMessage isn't considered true "end to end" crypto. There have been several papers written on this. On Feb 25, 2017 1:00 PM, "Travis Johnson" wrote: > Nope... iMessage is

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at Minitrue. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jaime Solorza Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2017 12:49 PM To: Animal Farm <af@afmug.com> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Google knows And you are a master at them On Feb 25, 2017 11:45 AM, "That One Guy /sarcasm&quo

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Nope... iMessage is encrypted and not even Apple can read the messages. Travis On 2/25/2017 11:47 AM, Bill Prince wrote: Just like iMessage and Siri. bp On 2/25/2017 8:12 AM, Travis Johnson wrote: Now Google will be reading all of your text messages as well...

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And you are a master at them On Feb 25, 2017 11:45 AM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" wrote: > Mine will break their content filters > > I wish android would quit removing my cuss words from the dictionary no > matter how many times I add them > > On Feb 25, 2017 10:12

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Just like iMessage and Siri. bp On 2/25/2017 8:12 AM, Travis Johnson wrote: Now Google will be reading all of your text messages as well... if you use an Android phone that is... LOL

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Mine will break their content filters I wish android would quit removing my cuss words from the dictionary no matter how many times I add them On Feb 25, 2017 10:12 AM, "Travis Johnson" wrote: > Now Google will be reading all of your text messages as well... if you use > an

[AFMUG] OT: Google knows

Now Google will be reading all of your text messages as well... if you use an Android phone that is... LOL https://www.cnet.com/news/google-takes-on-apple-imessage-with-enhanced-sms-for-android-rcs/ Travis