[AFMUG] PTMP backhaul solution

2015-05-29 Thread Brett A Mansfield
I'm looking for the best high capacity and low cost PTMP solution. This is for my backhauls to distribute to smaller cells in a large area. Anyone know of something that fits this description? Thank you, Brett A Mansfield

Re: [AFMUG] PTMP backhaul solution

2015-05-29 Thread Josh Luthman
EPMP and maybe Ubnt AC Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On May 29, 2015 5:32 PM, "Brett A Mansfield" wrote: > I'm looking for the best high capacity and low cost PTMP solution. This is > for my backhauls to distribute to smaller cells

Re: [AFMUG] PTMP backhaul solution

2015-05-29 Thread Brett A Mansfield
I'm looking for backhaul. Anything in 2.4 or 5GHz won't work. Thank you, Brett A Mansfield > On May 29, 2015, at 3:35 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: > > EPMP and maybe Ubnt AC > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > >> On May 29,

Re: [AFMUG] PTMP backhaul solution

2015-05-29 Thread Josh Luthman
3.65 Ubnt for backhaul maybe? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 5:41 PM, Brett A Mansfield < li...@silverlakeinternet.com> wrote: > I'm looking for backhaul. Anything in 2.4 or 5GHz won't work. > > Thank you, >

Re: [AFMUG] PTMP backhaul solution

2015-05-29 Thread Daniel White
in.com/in/danielwhite84> *** From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Brett A Mansfield Sent: Friday, May 29, 2015 3:42 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] PTMP backhaul solution I'm loo

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2015-05-29 Thread Brett A Mansfield
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Re: [AFMUG] PTMP backhaul solution

2015-05-29 Thread Josh Luthman
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Re: [AFMUG] PTMP backhaul solution

2015-05-29 Thread Mathew Howard
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Re: [AFMUG] PTMP backhaul solution

2015-05-29 Thread Rory Conaway
: Re: [AFMUG] PTMP backhaul solution You know that's why they sync, right? You can have a whole lot of sync'ed APs/masters at the one site and as long as they're transmitting at the same time and the client/slave sites aren't nearing the different master's you'll b

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2015-05-29 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
; > > > Rory > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman > *Sent:* Friday, May 29, 2015 2:58 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] PTMP backhaul solution > > > > You know that's why they sync, right? You can have

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2015-05-29 Thread Brett A Mansfield
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Re: [AFMUG] PTMP backhaul solution

2015-05-29 Thread Rory Conaway
Right now your fastest option is Ubiquiti AC products. Rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Brett A Mansfield Sent: Friday, May 29, 2015 3:06 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] PTMP backhaul solution High capacity, comparatively inexpensive, and PTMP do all go together

Re: [AFMUG] PTMP backhaul solution

2015-05-29 Thread Brett A Mansfield
; From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Brett A Mansfield > Sent: Friday, May 29, 2015 3:06 PM > To: af@afmug.com > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] PTMP backhaul solution > > High capacity, comparatively inexpensive, and PTMP do all go together. I > don't expect to spend

Re: [AFMUG] PTMP backhaul solution

2015-05-29 Thread Mathew Howard
e like Vivato does or > depending on how many clients and range you are talking about, maybe > something in 24 or 80GHz. > > > > Rory > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman > *Sent:* Friday, May 29, 2015 2:58 PM > *To:* af@afm

Re: [AFMUG] PTMP backhaul solution

2015-05-29 Thread Rory Conaway
I wasn’t suggesting PTMP, only that you can put up more of those radios on the same tower if you only need 6 links for example. rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mathew Howard Sent: Friday, May 29, 2015 3:14 PM To: af Subject: Re: [AFMUG] PTMP backhaul solution I&#

Re: [AFMUG] PTMP backhaul solution

2015-05-29 Thread Brett A Mansfield
gt;> >> >> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman >> Sent: Friday, May 29, 2015 2:58 PM >> To: af@afmug.com >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] PTMP backhaul solution >> >> >> >> You know that's why they sync, rig

Re: [AFMUG] PTMP backhaul solution

2015-05-29 Thread Rory Conaway
You need a different strategy. Rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Brett A Mansfield Sent: Friday, May 29, 2015 3:18 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] PTMP backhaul solution You're very right about the 24GHz. I know several companies are working on somethi

Re: [AFMUG] PTMP backhaul solution

2015-05-29 Thread Jason McKemie
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Re: [AFMUG] PTMP backhaul solution

2015-05-29 Thread Brett A Mansfield
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Brett A Mansfield > Sent: Friday, May 29, 2015 3:18 PM > To: af@afmug.com > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] PTMP backhaul solution > > You're very right about the 24GHz. I know several companies are working on > something in 60GHz wh

Re: [AFMUG] PTMP backhaul solution

2015-05-29 Thread Jason McKemie
d use Cambridge like Vivato does or > depending on how many clients and range you are talking about, maybe > something in 24 or 80GHz. > > > > Rory > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman > *Sent:* Friday, May 29, 2015 2:58 PM >

Re: [AFMUG] PTMP backhaul solution

2015-05-29 Thread Daniel White
Friday, May 29, 2015 4:14 PM To: af Subject: Re: [AFMUG] PTMP backhaul solution I'm pretty sure the FCC doesn't allow PtMP in 24ghz. I don't know if anything exists for PtMP in 80ghz... or maybe 60ghz? It seems like the only real option here is 28ghz. On Fri, May 29, 20

Re: [AFMUG] PTMP backhaul solution

2015-05-29 Thread Brett A Mansfield
gt; Brett A Mansfield >> >>> On May 29, 2015, at 4:19 PM, Rory Conaway wrote: >>> >>> You need a different strategy. >>> >>> >>> >>> Rory >>> >>> >>> >>> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.

Re: [AFMUG] PTMP backhaul solution

2015-05-29 Thread Mathew Howard
(303) 746-3590 > > daniel.wh...@saftehnika.com > > Skype: danieldwhite > Social: LinkedIn <http://www.linkedin.com/in/danielwhite84> > > > > *** > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...

Re: [AFMUG] PTMP backhaul solution

2015-05-29 Thread Rory Conaway
Maybe you can explain what you would do different than all the other manufacturers that would solve the problem. Rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Brett A Mansfield Sent: Friday, May 29, 2015 3:33 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] PTMP backhaul solution You don&#

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2015-05-29 Thread Jeff Broadwick - Lists
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Re: [AFMUG] PTMP backhaul solution

2015-05-29 Thread Daniel White
in.com/in/danielwhite84> *** From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mathew Howard Sent: Friday, May 29, 2015 4:33 PM To: af Subject: Re: [AFMUG] PTMP backhaul solution Aren't there antenna beamwidth requirem

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2015-05-29 Thread Brett A Mansfield
gt; To: af@afmug.com > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] PTMP backhaul solution > > You don't need a lot of money to start manufacturing. You just need to know > the right people. > > Thank you, > Brett A Mansfield > > On May 29, 2015, at 4:28 PM, Jason McKemie > w

Re: [AFMUG] PTMP backhaul solution

2015-05-29 Thread Brett A Mansfield
; >> Maybe you can explain what you would do different than all the other >> manufacturers that would solve the problem. >> >> Rory >> >> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Brett A Mansfield >> Sent: Friday, May 29, 2015 3:33 PM >> To

Re: [AFMUG] PTMP backhaul solution

2015-05-29 Thread Chuck McCown
than all the other manufacturers that would solve the problem. Rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Brett A Mansfield Sent: Friday, May 29, 2015 3:33 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] PTMP backhaul solution You don't n

Re: [AFMUG] PTMP backhaul solution

2015-05-29 Thread George Skorup
. *From:* Brett A Mansfield <mailto:li...@silverlakeinternet.com> *Sent:* Friday, May 29, 2015 4:49 PM *To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] PTMP backhaul solution 60 and 240GHz can make wireless in urban areas actually be able to compete with cable and mayb

Re: [AFMUG] PTMP backhaul solution

2015-05-29 Thread Mike Hammett
a different strategy. Rory From: Af [ mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com ] On Behalf Of Brett A Mansfield Sent: Friday, May 29, 2015 3:18 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] PTMP backhaul solution You're very right about the 24GHz. I know several companies are working on something in

Re: [AFMUG] PTMP backhaul solution

2015-05-29 Thread Colin Stanners
e: > > Maybe you can explain what you would do different than all the other > manufacturers that would solve the problem. > > > > Rory > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com ] *On > Behalf Of *Brett A Mansfield > *Sent:* Friday, May 29, 2015 3:33 PM

Re: [AFMUG] PTMP backhaul solution

2015-05-29 Thread Mathew Howard
ns > http://www.ics-il.com > > -- > *From: *"Brett A Mansfield" > *To: *af@afmug.com > *Sent: *Friday, May 29, 2015 5:23:26 PM > *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] PTMP backhaul solution > > Yep, it sure does seem that way. I'm trying to think outside of th

Re: [AFMUG] PTMP backhaul solution

2015-05-29 Thread Brett A Mansfield
field >>> >>>> On May 29, 2015, at 4:39 PM, Rory Conaway wrote: >>>> >>>> Maybe you can explain what you would do different than all the other >>>> manufacturers that would solve the problem. >>>> >>>> >>>

Re: [AFMUG] PTMP backhaul solution

2015-05-29 Thread Colin Stanners
t; >> On May 29, 2015, at 4:39 PM, Rory Conaway wrote: >> >> Maybe you can explain what you would do different than all the other >> manufacturers that would solve the problem. >> >> >> >> Rory >> >> >> >> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...

Re: [AFMUG] PTMP backhaul solution

2015-05-29 Thread Chuck McCown
Yeah, but it will require the faith of a mustard seed. Physics is notoriously difficult to to bend to your will. From: Brett A Mansfield Sent: Friday, May 29, 2015 5:58 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] PTMP backhaul solution I've heard this argument before. I respond the sam

Re: [AFMUG] PTMP backhaul solution

2015-05-29 Thread Jason McKemie
e due to the difference in the AP antenna and an > PTP antenna. > > Doug Clark was all over some 24 GHz PTMP product several years ago. I > guess it never worked out. > > *From:* Brett A Mansfield > > *Sent:* Friday, May 29, 2015 4:49 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subj

Re: [AFMUG] PTMP backhaul solution

2015-05-29 Thread Brett A Mansfield
A Mansfield > Sent: Friday, May 29, 2015 5:58 PM > To: af@afmug.com > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] PTMP backhaul solution > > I've heard this argument before. I respond the same way every time. Where > there is a will, there is a way. We just haven't found it yet. > >

Re: [AFMUG] PTMP backhaul solution

2015-05-29 Thread Chuck McCown
When you get around the fact that the earth is a conductor, let me know. From: Brett A Mansfield Sent: Friday, May 29, 2015 6:22 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] PTMP backhaul solution I really believe that there is more that can be done than we currently know. You may call that faith

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2015-05-29 Thread Rory Conaway
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] PTMP backhaul solution I really believe that there is more that can be done than we currently know. You may call that faith of a mustard seed, but it's been proven time and again in history. We may think we know the laws of physics, but who's to say that we a

Re: [AFMUG] PTMP backhaul solution

2015-05-29 Thread Brett A Mansfield
some great > ideas coming out that are based on the foundation of experience, innovation, > and again realistic engineering, I kind of think you are not being realistic. > > Rory > > From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Brett A Mansfield > Sent: Friday, May 29, 2015 5:

Re: [AFMUG] PTMP backhaul solution

2015-05-29 Thread Rory Conaway
out that are based on the foundation of experience, innovation, and again realistic engineering, I kind of think you are not being realistic. Rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Brett A Mansfield Sent: Friday, May 29, 2015 5:22 PM To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com> Subjec

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2015-05-29 Thread Daniel White
the world use of 60GHz for instance. Daniel White (303) 746-3590 From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Rory Conaway Sent: Friday, May 29, 2015 7:31 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] PTMP backhaul solution Wow, out of all of that, you focused on the profit part.

Re: [AFMUG] PTMP backhaul solution

2015-05-29 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
iday, May 29, 2015 5:32:37 PM > Subject: [AFMUG] PTMP backhaul solution > > I'm looking for the best high capacity and low cost PTMP solution. This is > for my backhauls to distribute to smaller cells in a large area. Anyone know > of something that fits this description? > > Thank you, > Brett A Mansfield >

Re: [AFMUG] PTMP backhaul solution

2015-06-02 Thread Daniel Gerlach
net & Telecom > 7266 SW 48 Street > Miami, FL 33155 > Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 > > Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net > > - Original Message - >> From: "Brett A Mansfield" >> To: af@afmug.com >> Sent: