Re: [AFMUG] RF mapping planning

2015-10-09 Thread Bill Prince
Will there _*_ever_*_ be an option to just set the frames to a particular dimension? For example, go to AP x, set the parameters to whatever you need. You run the frame calculator, and you get something like below: *Modulation:FSK * Total Frame Bits : 25000 *AP Details : * Data Sl

Re: [AFMUG] RF mapping planning

2015-10-09 Thread Josh Luthman
gt; > den...@linktechs.net – 314-735-0270 x103 – www.linktechs.net > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman > *Sent:* Friday, October 9, 2015 2:20 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] RF mapping planning > > > > How

Re: [AFMUG] RF mapping planning

2015-10-09 Thread Sriram Chaturvedi
Hi Craig, There is an offline frame calculator available to configure ePMP and FSK for sync. It can be found here: https://support.cambiumnetworks.com/files/epmp/ and is titled "ePMP-PMP 100(FSK) Co-location Calculator”. With your FSK settings below you can sync with ePMP with the following set

Re: [AFMUG] RF mapping planning

2015-10-09 Thread Dennis Burgess
. den...@linktechs.net<mailto:den...@linktechs.net> – 314-735-0270 x103 – www.linktechs.net<http://www.linktechs.net/> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Friday, October 9, 2015 2:20 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] RF mapping planning How d

Re: [AFMUG] RF mapping planning

2015-10-09 Thread Adam Moffett
band-Mapping.com *From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Adam Moffett *Sent:* Thursday, October 08, 2015 9:44 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] RF mapping planning I'd love to see an example of what this looks like, or how it can tell me where potential interferen

Re: [AFMUG] RF mapping planning

2015-10-09 Thread Josh Luthman
t – 314-735-0270 x103 – www.linktechs.net > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Adam Moffett > *Sent:* Thursday, October 8, 2015 8:44 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] RF mapping planning > > > > I'd love to see an example of wh

Re: [AFMUG] RF mapping planning

2015-10-09 Thread Dennis Burgess
day, October 8, 2015 8:44 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] RF mapping planning I'd love to see an example of what this looks like, or how it can tell me where potential interference is. ...it might be the most compelling reason I've seen to sign up for the service. Yep, just pu

Re: [AFMUG] RF mapping planning

2015-10-09 Thread David
That was actual Ethernet traffic from that AP interface polling using SNMP for that interface On 10/08/2015 05:09 PM, Brian Sullivan wrote: Are you graphing your Frame Utilization? Can you post a screenshot? Also, when you are hitting 100Mbps, is that your AP's Ethernet traffic or RF traffic

Re: [AFMUG] RF mapping planning

2015-10-09 Thread Brian Webster
...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Adam Moffett Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2015 9:44 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] RF mapping planning I'd love to see an example of what this looks like, or how it can tell me where potential interference is. ...it might be the most compelling reason

Re: [AFMUG] RF mapping planning

2015-10-08 Thread Adam Moffett
lt;mailto:den...@linktechs.net> – 314-735-0270 x103 – www.linktechs.net <http://www.linktechs.net/> *From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Craig House *Sent:* Thursday, October 8, 2015 2:10 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] RF mapping planning We already use

Re: [AFMUG] RF mapping planning

2015-10-08 Thread Brian Sullivan
Are you graphing your Frame Utilization? Can you post a screenshot? Also, when you are hitting 100Mbps, is that your AP's Ethernet traffic or RF traffic? On 10/8/2015 5:02 PM, David wrote: I had one sector hit 100Mbs not quiet hitting the 120 but I am concerned. We have ordered more APs to st

Re: [AFMUG] RF mapping planning

2015-10-08 Thread David
I had one sector hit 100Mbs not quiet hitting the 120 but I am concerned. We have ordered more APs to stack on there for more offload of the site. The other sectors are 50Mb,20Mb or less I asked the other day if we could just add another Tower in that area LOL On 10/08/2015 03:02 PM, Josh Bai

Re: [AFMUG] RF mapping planning

2015-10-08 Thread Josh Luthman
hursday, October 8, 2015 2:10 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] RF mapping planning > > > > We already use radio mobile and Tower coverage.com but are not really > using it for channel planning purposes it shows us propagation but I've > never tried to use

Re: [AFMUG] RF mapping planning

2015-10-08 Thread Dennis Burgess
5 2:10 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] RF mapping planning We already use radio mobile and Tower coverage.com<http://coverage.com> but are not really using it for channel planning purposes it shows us propagation but I've never tried to use it to show channel layouts that

Re: [AFMUG] RF mapping planning

2015-10-08 Thread Adam Moffett
You could use Radio Mobile and draw each tower in a different color. Where the colors overlap is where you need to be concerned. On 10/8/2015 3:09 PM, Craig House wrote: We already use radio mobile and Tower coverage.com but are not really using it for channel planning p

Re: [AFMUG] RF mapping planning

2015-10-08 Thread Josh Baird
All 480 people on the 5 450 sectors? That is quite a bit. How's capacity on the sectors looking? On Thu, Oct 8, 2015 at 3:53 PM, David wrote: > +1 > +2 > +3 > +4 > > all good stuff from Sean and Josh > We are doing something a little different by offloading all those older > subs to 450 and a

Re: [AFMUG] RF mapping planning

2015-10-08 Thread David
+1 +2 +3 +4 all good stuff from Sean and Josh We are doing something a little different by offloading all those older subs to 450 and any smaller sites with <20 subs we use Epmp for deployment and Rf planning is snap because of our scale we are able to do this without stepping on our towers w

Re: [AFMUG] RF mapping planning

2015-10-08 Thread Josh Luthman
After ePMP version 2.5 the radios can do 2.5ms frames. This is needed to sync with FSK. I don't know how you marry them up but there's a good bit of documentation that helps. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Oct 8, 2015 at 3

Re: [AFMUG] RF mapping planning

2015-10-08 Thread Sean Heskett
Talk to Dennis @ link tech (towercoverage) I know they have a feature like that, but I've never used it. I just do it in my head and with GPS sync I don't have issues, but I could see where if you didn't have sync nearby towers would clobber each other. On Thursday, October 8, 2015, Craig House

Re: [AFMUG] RF mapping planning

2015-10-08 Thread Craig House
I assumed that there was a way to make the EP MP stuff work with the FSK stuff but I wasn't sure how to choose the right settings so that sink would work what is the trick We use 4 control slots 16 miles max distance and a 75% down link on our FSK Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 8, 2015, at 13:48,

Re: [AFMUG] RF mapping planning

2015-10-08 Thread Craig House
We already use radio mobile and Tower coverage.com but are not really using it for channel planning purposes it shows us propagation but I've never tried to use it to show channel layouts that's what I'm really looking more for Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 8, 2015, at 13:54, That One Guy /sarca

Re: [AFMUG] RF mapping planning

2015-10-08 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
Radiomobile - free Linkplanner is getting really valuable - free towercoverage.com - questionable but web based advanced implementation of radiomobile, with lots of options - can get expensive On Thu, Oct 8, 2015 at 1:52 PM, Sean Heskett wrote: > Towercoverage.com > > > On Thursday, Octobe

Re: [AFMUG] RF mapping planning

2015-10-08 Thread Sean Heskett
Towercoverage.com On Thursday, October 8, 2015, Craig House wrote: > What do you guys use for planning out tower sector RF ?? We have always > been a Cambium FSK shop and never really had to worry much about self > interference. Now with FSK end of life and we are installing a lot more > UBNT

Re: [AFMUG] RF mapping planning

2015-10-08 Thread Josh Luthman
Use ePMP and do what you were doing before. You can also match settings so ePMP will sync with FSK. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Oct 8, 2015 at 2:37 PM, Craig House wrote: > What do you guys use for planning out tower s

[AFMUG] RF mapping planning

2015-10-08 Thread Craig House
What do you guys use for planning out tower sector RF ?? We have always been a Cambium FSK shop and never really had to worry much about self interference. Now with FSK end of life and we are installing a lot more UBNT M series, we need to think more about RF planning than we used to. Sugges