Re: [AFMUG] Who did what?

2017-08-18 Thread Steve Jones
ation. > > > > ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: > >> HR manager or the person that fired them. > >> > >> -Original Message- From: Jay Weekley > >> Sent: Friday, August 18, 2017 8:50 AM > >> To: af@afmug.com > >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Who di

Re: [AFMUG] Who did what?

2017-08-18 Thread Matt Hoppes
> Sent: Friday, August 18, 2017 8:50 AM >> To: af@afmug.com >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Who did what? >> >> How do you decide who drives the just fired guy home? Sounds like some >> awkward travel? >> >> ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: >>> Yeah, I alway

Re: [AFMUG] Who did what?

2017-08-18 Thread Jay Weekley
Sounds very awkward indeed but kudos for taking ownership of the situation. ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: HR manager or the person that fired them. -Original Message- From: Jay Weekley Sent: Friday, August 18, 2017 8:50 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Who did what? How do you decide

Re: [AFMUG] Who did what?

2017-08-18 Thread chuck
HR manager or the person that fired them. -Original Message- From: Jay Weekley Sent: Friday, August 18, 2017 8:50 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Who did what? How do you decide who drives the just fired guy home? Sounds like some awkward travel? ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: Yeah

Re: [AFMUG] Who did what?

2017-08-18 Thread Jay Weekley
hem a chance to mingle with other employees if possible. -Original Message- From: Paul Stewart Sent: Friday, August 18, 2017 4:48 AM To: Animal Farm Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Who did what? This is why you never give employees advance notice that their job is ending - too many grey areas

Re: [AFMUG] Who did what?

2017-08-18 Thread chuck
riday, August 18, 2017 4:48 AM To: Animal Farm Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Who did what? This is why you never give employees advance notice that their job is ending - too many grey areas in my opinion. Prepare their exit package, meet with them first thing when they arrive at work that day, give the

Re: [AFMUG] Who did what?

2017-08-18 Thread Bill Prince
They were fired. That's the reason you show someone the door when you terminate them. There is absolutely ZERO expectation for that "employee" to do the "job" correctly or even not do sabotage on the way. bp On 8/17/2017 10:45 PM, Matt Hoppes wrote: I'm curious on opinions on a scenario...

Re: [AFMUG] Who did what?

2017-08-18 Thread Jay Weekley
True. They can sabotage a lot of stuff like changing passwords, stealing etc. Paul Stewart wrote: This is why you never give employees advance notice that their job is ending - too many grey areas in my opinion. Prepare their exit package, meet with them first thing when they arrive at work

Re: [AFMUG] Who did what?

2017-08-18 Thread Paul Stewart
This is why you never give employees advance notice that their job is ending - too many grey areas in my opinion. Prepare their exit package, meet with them first thing when they arrive at work that day, give them the package and explain things briefly, then walk them out the door. It’s the si

Re: [AFMUG] Who did what?

2017-08-18 Thread Steve D
I'd say that's a shitty expectation to place upon an employee. They're fired. End of story. It's shitty for morale for everyone around that person if they stick it out. Serious downer. I watched a single father sitting and crying at his job for half the shift after getting his slip (he had sta

Re: [AFMUG] Who did what?

2017-08-17 Thread Steve Jones
I can also burn their house down On Fri, Aug 18, 2017 at 12:53 AM, Steve Jones wrote: > unless you specifically request they exit premises, they quit. > if a company is closing at 3pm on next Tuesday, and at 230, they say fuck > it and leave without permission, they quit. > The biggest question,

Re: [AFMUG] Who did what?

2017-08-17 Thread Steve Jones
unless you specifically request they exit premises, they quit. if a company is closing at 3pm on next Tuesday, and at 230, they say fuck it and leave without permission, they quit. The biggest question, is did they finish their shift, if they did, they were terminated, unless there was a person who

Re: [AFMUG] Who did what?

2017-08-17 Thread Jesse DuPont
I doubt any of our personal opinions matter because when (if) it comes to unemployment, it will be the opinion of the dept of labor that matters. That said, I'd say he was fired: the employer initiated the departure. Clearly, that was the intent.

[AFMUG] Who did what?

2017-08-17 Thread Matt Hoppes
I'm curious on opinions on a scenario... Now, the way this plays out is somewhat like the AT&T call center from a few weeks ago, but ignore that... If an employee is told their last day is today, please complete the tasks assigned to you and then go on your way. BUT... the employee refu