Re: [AFMUG] ePMP: Integrated Radio VS Force 180

2015-12-03 Thread Josh Luthman
mpany/midwest-internet-exchange> > <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> > -------------- > > *From: *"Josh Luthman" <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> > <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> > *To: *af@afmug.com > *Sent: *Wednesday, December 2, 201

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP: Integrated Radio VS Force 180

2015-12-03 Thread Mathew Howard
ecember 03, 2015 2:26 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ePMP: Integrated Radio VS Force 180 > > No, it mounts sideways (thus the 180 name). Likely won't work with > existing reflectors. > > Jeff Broadwick > ConVergence Technologies, Inc. > 312-205-2519 Office

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP: Integrated Radio VS Force 180

2015-12-03 Thread Josh Luthman
; definitely not easy. > > > > Can you sneak a couple more dB out of a Beehive Superdish is a good > question > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Chuck McCown > *Sent:* Thursday, December 03, 2015 5:23 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:*

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP: Integrated Radio VS Force 180

2015-12-03 Thread Josh Luthman
552-2343 >> 1100 Wayne St >> Suite 1337 >> Troy, OH 45373 >> >> >> >> On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 4:24 PM, Paul McCall <pa...@pdmnet.net> wrote: >> >> Does the Force180 have the same form factor as the previous integrated >> unit? Does it use

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP: Integrated Radio VS Force 180

2015-12-03 Thread Chuck McCown
I can make it work, but I have yet to test with one. From: Jeff Broadwick - Lists Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2015 2:26 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP: Integrated Radio VS Force 180 No, it mounts sideways (thus the 180 name). Likely won't work with existing reflectors

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP: Integrated Radio VS Force 180

2015-12-03 Thread Chuck McCown
Yes, and the real question is, would someone buy my product or the Cambium 200? Is it worth doing. From: Mathew Howard Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2015 3:03 PM To: af Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP: Integrated Radio VS Force 180 You would have to make a completely new holder, wouldn't you

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP: Integrated Radio VS Force 180

2015-12-03 Thread Chuck McCown
Possibly. From: Paul McCall Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2015 3:43 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP: Integrated Radio VS Force 180 Hmmm… my only point of reference is the original Force product which was definitely not easy. Can you sneak a couple more dB out of a Beehive

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP: Integrated Radio VS Force 180

2015-12-03 Thread Mathew Howard
y product or the Cambium > 200? Is it worth doing. > > *From:* Mathew Howard <mhoward...@gmail.com> > *Sent:* Thursday, December 03, 2015 3:03 PM > *To:* af <af@afmug.com> > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ePMP: Integrated Radio VS Force 180 > > You would have to make a completel

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP: Integrated Radio VS Force 180

2015-12-03 Thread Josh Luthman
r the Cambium > 200? Is it worth doing. > > *From:* Mathew Howard <mhoward...@gmail.com> > *Sent:* Thursday, December 03, 2015 3:03 PM > *To:* af <af@afmug.com> > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ePMP: Integrated Radio VS Force 180 > > You would have to make a completely new h

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP: Integrated Radio VS Force 180

2015-12-03 Thread Chuck McCown
No need to say sorry, I agree. That is the way I would do it too. From: Josh Luthman Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2015 3:21 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP: Integrated Radio VS Force 180 Force 200. Way easier than reflectors. Sorry :( Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP: Integrated Radio VS Force 180

2015-12-03 Thread Paul McCall
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP: Integrated Radio VS Force 180 No need to say sorry, I agree. That is the way I would do it too. From: Josh Luthman<mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2015 3:21 PM To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP: Integrated Radio VS Force 180

2015-12-03 Thread Mathew Howard
the same KP performance reflector? Same holder, etc.? > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *David > *Sent:* Wednesday, December 02, 2015 5:01 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com > > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ePMP: Integrated Radio VS Force 180 > > >

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP: Integrated Radio VS Force 180

2015-12-03 Thread Josh Luthman
om] *On Behalf Of *David > *Sent:* Wednesday, December 02, 2015 5:01 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com > > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ePMP: Integrated Radio VS Force 180 > > > > 2.4 seems to be the best option for access standards > Of course apple really really wants to be the new st

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP: Integrated Radio VS Force 180

2015-12-03 Thread Jeff Broadwick - Lists
<pa...@pdmnet.net> wrote: >>> >>> Does the Force180 have the same form factor as the previous integrated >>> unit? Does it use the same KP performance reflector? Same holder, etc.? >>> >>> >>> >>> From: Af [mailto:af-boun

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP: Integrated Radio VS Force 180

2015-12-03 Thread Jeff Broadwick - Lists
t;> Troy, OH 45373 >> >> >> >> On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 4:24 PM, Paul McCall <pa...@pdmnet.net> wrote: >> >> Does the Force180 have the same form factor as the previous integrated unit? >> Does it use the same KP performance reflector? Same

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP: Integrated Radio VS Force 180

2015-12-03 Thread Jeff Broadwick - Lists
or) does standard SM + 3db, did we just lose 6dB of gain (NET) if we >> can’t use reflectors? >> >> >> >> Paul >> >> >> >> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman >> Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2015 4:26 PM

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP: Integrated Radio VS Force 180

2015-12-03 Thread Paul McCall
@imaginenetworksllc.com> To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com> Sent: Wednesday, December 2, 2015 1:41:21 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP: Integrated Radio VS Force 180 Force 200 comes in 2.4 and 5 GHz bands. Yes, the model scheme from Cambium can become even more insane. And you thought it

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP: Integrated Radio VS Force 180

2015-12-03 Thread Jeff Broadwick - Lists
...@imaginenetworksllc.com> > To: af@afmug.com > Sent: Wednesday, December 2, 2015 1:41:21 PM > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP: Integrated Radio VS Force 180 > > Force 200 comes in 2.4 and 5 GHz bands. > > Yes, the model scheme from Cambium can become even more insane. And you

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP: Integrated Radio VS Force 180

2015-12-03 Thread Paul McCall
: Thursday, December 03, 2015 4:26 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP: Integrated Radio VS Force 180 It's turned 90*. I don't know if KP tested the reflector with it, but I would safely assume it won't illuminate as well as previous. It uses the same holder but will also use a new one

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP: Integrated Radio VS Force 180

2015-12-03 Thread Mathew Howard
e180 have the same form factor as the previous integrated > unit? Does it use the same KP performance reflector? Same holder, etc.? > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *David > *Sent:* Wednesday, December 02, 2015 5:01 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com > >

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP: Integrated Radio VS Force 180

2015-12-03 Thread Josh Luthman
n...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman > *Sent:* Thursday, December 03, 2015 4:26 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ePMP: Integrated Radio VS Force 180 > > > > It's turned 90*. I don't know if KP tested the reflector with it, but I > would safely

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP: Integrated Radio VS Force 180

2015-12-03 Thread Paul McCall
nope From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2015 5:59 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP: Integrated Radio VS Force 180 You haven't used any Force110, Paul? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP: Integrated Radio VS Force 180

2015-12-03 Thread Josh Luthman
:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman > *Sent:* Thursday, December 03, 2015 5:59 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ePMP: Integrated Radio VS Force 180 > > > > You haven't used any Force110, Paul? > > > > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-234

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP: Integrated Radio VS Force 180

2015-12-03 Thread Paul McCall
Better dB than the KP dish? From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2015 6:36 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP: Integrated Radio VS Force 180 Wow seriously you need to pick one up...or just pick up Force200. Josh Luthman Office

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP: Integrated Radio VS Force 180

2015-12-03 Thread George Skorup
*Sent:* Thursday, December 03, 2015 6:36 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ePMP: Integrated Radio VS Force 180 Wow seriously you need to pick one up...or just pick up Force200. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Dec

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP: Integrated Radio VS Force 180

2015-12-02 Thread Josh Baird
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Re: [AFMUG] ePMP: Integrated Radio VS Force 180

2015-12-02 Thread Sriram Chaturvedi
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Re: [AFMUG] ePMP: Integrated Radio VS Force 180

2015-12-02 Thread Mike Hammett
http://www.midwest-ix.com - Original Message - From: "Josh Baird" <joshba...@gmail.com> To: af@afmug.com Sent: Wednesday, December 2, 2015 1:27:57 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP: Integrated Radio VS Force 180 So, there is a 5ghz Force 200 on it's way? I thought

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP: Integrated Radio VS Force 180

2015-12-02 Thread Sriram Chaturvedi
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Re: [AFMUG] ePMP: Integrated Radio VS Force 180

2015-12-02 Thread Mike Hammett
n" <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> To: af@afmug.com Sent: Wednesday, December 2, 2015 1:41:21 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP: Integrated Radio VS Force 180 Force 200 comes in 2.4 and 5 GHz bands. Yes, the model scheme from Cambium can become even more insane. And you though

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP: Integrated Radio VS Force 180

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Re: [AFMUG] ePMP: Integrated Radio VS Force 180

2015-12-02 Thread Josh Luthman
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Re: [AFMUG] ePMP: Integrated Radio VS Force 180

2015-12-02 Thread Josh Baird
So, there is a 5ghz Force 200 on it's way? I thought it was only 2.4. On Tue, Dec 1, 2015 at 1:57 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: > There is a shortage/lack of Force 110. My reps gave me a heads up a month > ago and I ordered 3 month supply to be safe. > > I've heard the

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP: Integrated Radio VS Force 180

2015-12-02 Thread George Skorup
m>> *To: *af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> *Sent: *Wednesday, December 2, 2015 1:27:57 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] ePMP: Integrated Radio VS Force 180 So, there is a 5ghz Force 200 on it's way? I thought it was only 2.4. On Tue, Dec 1, 2015 at 1:57 PM, Josh Luthma

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP: Integrated Radio VS Force 180

2015-12-02 Thread Sriram Chaturvedi
x> From: "Josh Baird" <joshba...@gmail.com<mailto:joshba...@gmail.com>> To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com> Sent: Wednesday, December 2, 2015 1:27:57 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP: Integrated Radio VS Force 180 So, there is

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP: Integrated Radio VS Force 180

2015-12-02 Thread Mathew Howard
Eventually yes, but I was told it won't be available for a few more months - hopefully, that's changed. I think the 2.4ghz Force 200 should be available any day now. On Wed, Dec 2, 2015 at 1:27 PM, Josh Baird wrote: > So, there is a 5ghz Force 200 on it's way? I thought

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP: Integrated Radio VS Force 180

2015-12-02 Thread Josh Luthman
;Josh Baird" <joshba...@gmail.com> > *To: *af@afmug.com > *Sent: *Wednesday, December 2, 2015 1:27:57 PM > *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] ePMP: Integrated Radio VS Force 180 > > > So, there is a 5ghz Force 200 on it's way? I thought it was only 2.4. > > On Tue, Dec 1, 2015 at

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP: Integrated Radio VS Force 180

2015-12-02 Thread Josh Luthman
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Re: [AFMUG] ePMP: Integrated Radio VS Force 180

2015-12-02 Thread David
f@afmug.com *Sent: *Wednesday, December 2, 2015 1:41:21 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] ePMP: Integrated Radio VS Force 180 Force 200 comes in 2.4 and 5 GHz bands. Yes, the model scheme from Cambium can become even more insane. And you thought it would stop at C0498732975928402580SA9S Josh Lu

[AFMUG] ePMP: Integrated Radio VS Force 180

2015-12-01 Thread Louis Arsenault
What is the story with the ePMP line? I have had ePMP integrated units on back order for several weeks now. Has Cambium stopped production on them? Since we are 5Ghz then we should move to the Force 180? -- -Louis

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP: Integrated Radio VS Force 180

2015-12-01 Thread Josh Luthman
I've heard that the older lines have been halted with the expectation everyone is buying the new ones - force 180 and force 200. I'd suggest using Force 180 and 200 for 5 GHz. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Dec 1, 2015 at

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP: Integrated Radio VS Force 180

2015-12-01 Thread Mathew Howard
Yeah, I think the integrated is discontinued... anyway, I certainly wouldn't wait for them, the Force 180 is the same price and much nicer. Is that why there's been a shortage of Force 110s? I thought it was still going to be a few months until the 5ghz Force 200 was shipping... On Tue, Dec 1,

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP: Integrated Radio VS Force 180

2015-12-01 Thread Josh Luthman
There is a shortage/lack of Force 110. My reps gave me a heads up a month ago and I ordered 3 month supply to be safe. I've heard the first of the year is supposed to deliver Force 200 5 GHz. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On