just peck
you to death and stop your brain from working.
*From:* Jeremy via Af <mailto:af@afmug.com>
*Sent:* Friday, December 19, 2014 10:25 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ePMP proxy
Yeah, I'm sure it has to do with scale. I am a one man ba
fmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP proxy
Yeah, but you want to be the distributor so you only have to deal with the
pushers, not directly with the addicts. I suppose eventually the pushers get
on your nerves too, so you start your own meth lab or grow house so you only
have to deal with distrib
your WISP to the point you sell out to a big company, and now
the addicts miss you and are sorry they made you sad.
-Original Message-
From: Bill Prince via Af
Sent: Friday, December 19, 2014 11:13 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP proxy
They are the addicts. We ar
They are the addicts. We are the pushers. I know addict behavior when
I see it.
--
bp
On 12/19/2014 8:43 AM, Ken Hohhof via Af wrote:
Because it’s hard to see the big picture and move a business forward
if you hate customers because they are such needy jerks, not to
mention liars and deadb
boxes, the guy who runs
cable, the guy who hooks up modems, etc.
From: Jeremy via Af
Sent: Friday, December 19, 2014 10:05 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP proxy
If an installer cannot program a radio and align it without help from the NOC
then he is not a very good inst
s holes, the guy who mounts boxes, the
> guy who runs cable, the guy who hooks up modems, etc.
>
>
> *From:* Jeremy via Af
> *Sent:* Friday, December 19, 2014 10:05 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ePMP proxy
>
> If an installer cannot program a radio an
, the guy who mounts boxes, the guy who runs
cable, the guy who hooks up modems, etc.
From: Jeremy via Af
Sent: Friday, December 19, 2014 10:05 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP proxy
If an installer cannot program a radio and align it without help from the NOC
then he is not a
m: "Jeremy via Af"
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Friday, December 19, 2014 10:05:57 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP proxy
If an installer cannot program a radio and align it without help from the NOC
then he is not a very good installer. I program and align in under 15 minutes
with my Nexus
18, 2014 10:58 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ePMP proxy
>
> Multiple crews with vastly different skill levels.
>
> josh reynolds :: chief information officer
> spitwspots :: www.spitwspots.com
>
> On 12/18/2014 07:06 PM, Josh Luthman via Af wrote:
>
get an installer to do it on the way to/from another install in the same area.
From: Josh Reynolds via Af
Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2014 10:58 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP proxy
Multiple crews with vastly different skill levels.
josh reynolds :: chief information officer
http://www.ics-il.com <http://www.ics-il.com/>
*From:*"Ken Hohhof via Af" mailto:af@afmug.com>>
*To:*af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
*Sent:*Thursday, December 18, 2014 7:06:44 PM
*Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] ePMP proxy
But I don’t think he’s
t;mailto:af@afmug.com>
*Sent: *Thursday, December 18, 2014 8:35:33 PM
*Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] ePMP proxy
Its ok George someone around here thought I was 70 :) LOL!
On Thu, Dec 18, 2014 at 8:32 PM, George Skorup (Cyber
Broadcasting) via Af mailto:af@afmug.com>> wrote:
*From: *"Josh Luthman via Af"
*To: *af@afmug.com
*Sent: *Thursday, December 18, 2014 8:10:43 PM
*Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] ePMP proxy
What exactly is the problem with adding tools to make it easier to
access??? Just add the features that people want, if you don't like
'em don&
ick on the customer’s name on a map, t
his would
not be set up yet in these cases.
From: Mark Radabaugh via Af
Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2014 8:08 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP proxy
Because we install 10, 15, sometimes 20 CPE a day. It's a pain in the ass
having to McGive
er’s name on a map, t
> his would
> not be set up yet in these cases.
>
>
> From: Mark Radabaugh via Af
> Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2014 8:08 PM
> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP proxy
>
> Because we install 10, 15, sometimes 20 CPE a day. It's a pain i
these
cases.
From: Mark Radabaugh via Af
Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2014 8:08 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP proxy
Because we install 10, 15, sometimes 20 CPE a day. It's a pain in the ass
having to McGiver your way into them every time. Sure we auto-configure a lot
of it
system like Mike has to let me
click on the customer’s name on a map, this would not be set up yet in these
cases.
From: Mark Radabaugh via Af
Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2014 8:08 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP proxy
Because we install 10, 15, sometimes 20 CPE a day. It
;
> --
> *From: *"Erich Kaiser via Af"
> *To: *af@afmug.com
> *Sent: *Thursday, December 18, 2014 8:35:33 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] ePMP proxy
>
> Its ok George someone around here thought I was 70 :) LOL!
>
> On Thu, Dec 18, 2014
You aren't?!
*ducking*
-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
- Original Message -
From: "Erich Kaiser via Af"
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2014 8:35:33 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP proxy
Its ok George
ing Solutions
> http://www.ics-il.com
>
> --
> *From: *"Josh Luthman via Af"
> *To: *af@afmug.com
> *Sent: *Thursday, December 18, 2014 8:10:43 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] ePMP proxy
>
> What exactly is the problem with adding tools to m
.com>
*Sent:*Thursday, December 18, 2014 8:10:43 PM
*Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] ePMP proxy
What exactly is the problem with adding tools to make it easier to
access??? Just add the features that people want, if you don't like
'em don't use 'em!
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-234
: af@afmug.com
Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2014 8:23:58 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP proxy
Um... who are you calling old? Josh just started shaving last week. (Ok - I'm
kidding, but I'm pretty sure he is under 30).
And dammit - I've earned the right to be a crotchety old man an
t; mailto:af@afmug.com>>
> To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
> Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2014 8:10:43 PM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP proxy
>
> What exactly is the problem with adding tools to make it easier to access???
> Just add the features that people want
f"
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2014 10:08:45 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP proxy
Equally so IME but that's also depending on both sides being MT.
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Dec 18, 2014 11:03
Sedov via Af"
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2014 9:11:55 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP proxy
One thing that makes it so bullet-proof on Canopy, is the internal network
between the AP and the SMs (169.254.101.x) which is what makes the proxy so
smooth. With ePMP and UBNT, you&
2014 8:08:58 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP proxy
Because we install 10, 15, sometimes 20 CPE a day. It's a pain in the ass
having to McGiver your way into them every time. Sure we auto-configure a lot
of it, but there are still have to get into them to look at signal strength and
such dur
hursday, December 18, 2014 7:43:41 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP proxy
Cuz I'd rather use an AR with a 30rd mag and not a single-shot .22 pistol. i.e.
speed.. click, click, done.
On 12/18/2014 7:11 PM, Mike Hammett via Af wrote:
Why do you need to access CPE that aren't directly ac
ubject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP proxy
What exactly is the problem with adding tools to make it easier to access???
Just add the features that people want, if you don't like 'em don't use 'em!
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
-
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
> http://www.ics-il.com
>
> --
> *From: *"Ken Hohhof via Af"
> *To: *af@afmug.com
> *Sent: *Thursday, December 18, 2014 7:06:44 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] ePMP proxy
>
> But I don’t think he’s talking how a sk
www.ics-il.com/>
>
> From: "Ken Hohhof via Af" mailto:af@afmug.com>>
> To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
> Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2014 7:06:44 PM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP proxy
>
> But I don’t think he’s talking how a skilled person could MacG
Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
*From: *"Ken Hohhof via Af"
*To: *af@afmug.com
*Sent: *Thursday, December 18, 2014 7:06:44 PM
*Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] ePMP proxy
But I don’t think he’s talking how a skilled pers
, 2014 6:51 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP proxy
As simple as SNMP and additional SSIDs and...?
-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
From: "Mathew Howard via Af"
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Thursday, Decembe
- Original Message -
From: "Ken Hohhof via Af"
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2014 7:24:56 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP proxy
Because if saves me looking up the IP address of their CPE.
Not everything in life has to be turned into a challenge. I’ll bet I can access
assume if you had an iPhone, you wouldn’t use Siri either? Hey, there’s an
idea. Siri plus AP proxy. Siri, connect me to Joe Smith’s CPE, and read me
the bridging table.
From: Mike Hammett via Af
Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2014 7:11 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP proxy
Why do
:44 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP proxy
But I don’t think he’s talking how a skilled person could MacGyver it, but
rather a session list right there in the GUI with every subscriber listed by
name, and you click on the name and shazzam, you are logged into that SM.
Like one of many things
On 12/18/14, 17:06, Ken Hohhof via Af wrote:
Like one of many things that pisses me off about my $10K Purewave
basestation is you can see a list of CPE MAC addresses by subscriber
name, but if you want to see any stats or change the config for that
subscriber, you have to find him by his MAC addr
, fine. Most of us use it multiple times every day. It’s a cool feature.
From: Mathew Howard via Af
Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2014 6:50 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP proxy
If there's a mac-telnet package out there for linux, you kind of have to wonder
why it isn't
ke Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
- Original Message -
From: "Mathew Howard via Af"
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2014 6:50:02 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP proxy
If there's a mac-telnet package out there for linux, you kind
As simple as SNMP and additional SSIDs and...?
-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
- Original Message -
From: "Mathew Howard via Af"
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2014 6:50:02 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP pr
lf of Mike Hammett via Af [af@afmug.com]
Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2014 6:45 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP proxy
I never really had a need for it. I now no longer have any PMP devices on my
network.
Now that I deploy any new Mikrotik wireless either, but if you can get to any
mmett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
- Original Message -
From: "Steve D via Af"
To: "af"
Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2014 6:01:01 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP proxy
Mike,
You sound like you're trying to excuse it for not being ther
> *From: *"Bill Prince via Af"
> *To: *af@afmug.com
> *Sent: *Thursday, December 18, 2014 10:34:41 AM
>
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] ePMP proxy
>
> Possibly a little simpler with similar results. It gets you a CLI on the
> target client. The proxy
Use the CLI to fix whatever's wrong with accessing the GUI?
-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
- Original Message -
From: "Bill Prince via Af"
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2014 10:34:41 AM
Subject: Re: [AF
---
*From: *"George Skorup (Cyber
Broadcasting) via Af" mailto:af@afmug.com>>
*To: *af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
*Sent: *Wednesday, December 17, 2014
in other people's products. Just add mac telnet to
> ePMP?
>
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
> http://www.ics-il.com
>
> --
> *From: *"Josh Luthman via Af"
> *To: *af@afmug.com
> *Sent: *
.com
Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2014 10:08:45 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP proxy
Equally so IME but that's also depending on both sides being MT.
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Dec 18, 2014 11:03 AM, "Mike Hammett
have it and not need it then need it and not have it.
>>>
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>> On Dec 17, 2014 9:55 PM, "Mike Hammett via Af&q
.com
Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2014 9:11:55 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP proxy
One thing that makes it so bullet-proof on Canopy, is the internal network
between the AP and the SMs (169.254.101.x) which is what makes the proxy so
smooth. With ePMP and UBNT, you're still at the mercy of havi
1100 Wayne St
>>> Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>> On Dec 17, 2014 9:55 PM, "Mike Hammett via Af" wrote:
>>>
>>>> I used it a couple times on my Canopy gear, but it was never a
>>>> show-stopper to not have it.
>>>>
-il.com/>
*From: *"George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) via Af"
mailto:af@afmug.com>>
*To: *af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
*Sent: *Wednesday,
>>>>> Josh Luthman
>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>>>> Suite 1337
>>>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>>>
>>>>> On Dec 17, 2014 9:55 PM, "Mike Hammett v
ave it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 12/17/2014 9:07 PM, Josh Luthman via Af wrote:
>>>>>>> Rather have it and not need it then need it and not have it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Josh Luthman
>>>>>>&g
t;>>
>>>> On Dec 17, 2014 9:55 PM, "Mike Hammett via Af" >>> <mailto:af@afmug.com>> wrote:
>>>> I used it a couple times on my Canopy gear, but it was never a
>>>> show-stopper to not have it.
>>>>
>>>> This b
--
*From: *"George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) via Af"
mailto:af@afmug.com>>
*To: *af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
*Sent: *Wednesday, December 17, 2014 8:30:14 PM
*Subject: *[AFMUG] ePMP proxy
; I used it a couple times on my Canopy gear, but it was never a
>>> show-stopper to not have it.
>>>
>>> This brings me to a new post...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -
>>> Mike Hammett
>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>>
mett via Af" >> <mailto:af@afmug.com>> wrote:
>>> I used it a couple times on my Canopy gear, but it was never a show-stopper
>>> to not have it.
>>>
>>> This brings me to a new post...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -
&
st...
>>
>>
>>
>> -
>> Mike Hammett
>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>> http://www.ics-il.com
>>
>> --
>> *From: *"George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) via Af"
>> *To: *af@afmug.com
>> *
Af" mailto:af@afmug.com>>
*To: *af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
*Sent: *Wednesday, December 17, 2014 8:30:14 PM
*Subject: *[AFMUG] ePMP proxy
OK Cambium ePMP dudes and chicks, I am disappointed. I thought
you guys
had Canopy-like SM "click-thru"
@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP proxy
I can't say that I've ever needed it...
-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
From: "Josh Luthman via Af"
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2014
I can't say that I've ever needed it...
-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
- Original Message -
From: "Josh Luthman via Af"
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2014 9:07:04 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP pro
tp://www.ics-il.com
*From: *"George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) via Af" mailto:af@afmug.com>>
*To: *af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
*Sent: *Wednesday, December 17, 2014 8:30:14 PM
*Subject: *[AFMUG] ePMP proxy
OK Cambium eP
: *af@afmug.com
> *Sent: *Wednesday, December 17, 2014 8:30:14 PM
> *Subject: *[AFMUG] ePMP proxy
>
> OK Cambium ePMP dudes and chicks, I am disappointed. I thought you guys
> had Canopy-like SM "click-thru" access, aka LUID proxy. But this is not
> the case on 2.3.3. All yo
;
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2014 8:30:14 PM
Subject: [AFMUG] ePMP proxy
OK Cambium ePMP dudes and chicks, I am disappointed. I thought you guys
had Canopy-like SM "click-thru" access, aka LUID proxy. But this is not
the case on 2.3.3. All you give me is a URL w
I wonder why this is so difficult... Why not just do a private interface
between them...
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Dec 17, 2014 9:30 PM, "George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) via Af" <
af@afmug.com> wrote:
> OK Cambium ePMP dud
OK Cambium ePMP dudes and chicks, I am disappointed. I thought you guys
had Canopy-like SM "click-thru" access, aka LUID proxy. But this is not
the case on 2.3.3. All you give me is a URL with the IP of the SM.
Informational helpful, yes, operationally helpful, no.
I'm guessing you need an RF
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