Re: [agi] How does a machine "understand"? What is your definition of "understanding" for an AGI?

2021-07-10 Thread cognomad
Understanding is recognition. Which is a lossless component of compression from comparing input to template. That's all there is to it, and it applies to countless other words that mean the same thing.  -- Artificial General Intelligence List: AGI

Re: [agi] How does a machine "understand"? What is your definition of "understanding" for an AGI?

2021-07-10 Thread Mike Archbold
Thanks everybody. I will be publishing my survey w/ the event. Peter -- I remembered your work on understanding and the link Thank you. On 7/10/21, Roman Kofman wrote: > Understanding is the skill of the machine. Machine X understands Y if it > can determine the completeness and consistency

Re: [agi] How does a machine "understand"? What is your definition of "understanding" for an AGI?

2021-07-10 Thread Roman Kofman
Understanding is the skill of the machine. Machine X understands Y if it can determine the completeness and consistency of Y according to its internal application domain model. The AGI application area is the real world. In simple words, understanding is the ability to determine whether something

Re: [agi] How does a machine "understand"? What is your definition of "understanding" for an AGI?

2021-07-10 Thread keghnfeem
Understanding is the editing distance between data points and the distance of objects on a traveling map, done by a conscious mind. -- Artificial General Intelligence List: AGI Permalink:

Re: [agi] How does a machine "understand"? What is your definition of "understanding" for an AGI?

2021-07-10 Thread immortal . discoveries
On Saturday, July 10, 2021, at 2:25 AM, Daniel Jue wrote: > In an analogy, commonly seen in optical illusions, a layperson cannot > understand nor explain why we see black dots on a grid illusion.  Certain > pattern matchers which were triggered in the optical processing region are > not able

Re: [agi] How does a machine "understand"? What is your definition of "understanding" for an AGI?

2021-07-10 Thread immortal . discoveries
On Friday, July 09, 2021, at 8:18 PM, Peter Voss wrote: > https://chatbotslife.com/understanding-understanding-9dcc15759b5b  > I don't know if you know this and simply gave many views of the same thing, but just in case not: All of the listed points in that link are the same thing, the knowing

Re: [agi] my AGI 2021 paper (for critique and comments...)

2021-07-10 Thread immortal . discoveries
Isn't self attention about helping translation of the prompt? Ex. 'the dog, it was sent to them, food was high quality' and we see yes dog and food can fit where it and them are, and, another way to know what it and them mean/are is by looking at all previous 30 rare words - they all might

Re: [agi] How does a machine "understand"? What is your definition of "understanding" for an AGI?

2021-07-10 Thread Matt Mahoney
You understand a sequence of symbols if you can predict or compress them. If I wanted to test if you understand Chinese, I would show you some Chinese text and test how many characters you could guess next. -- Artificial General Intelligence List: AGI

Re: [agi] How does a machine "understand"? What is your definition of "understanding" for an AGI?

2021-07-10 Thread Daniel Jue
Thanks for the question Mike. My opinion on understanding, which is still evolving: Understanding is one aspect of a conscious being, closest to knowing, but also including thinking, feeling, intuition and emotion. Some claim these are inseparable, or that separating them limits the types of

Re: [agi] MECA Sapiens Blueprint

2021-07-10 Thread Daniel Jue
Thanks for sharing, I've haven't read anything by that author yet. I found this though: http://mecasapiens.com/pdf/meca-sapiens-architecture-jetardy.pdf Some books here https://www.amazon.com/Jean-E.-Tardy/e/B007R63B56?ref_=dbs_p_ebk_r00_abau_00 His site https://sysjet.com/ On Fri, Jul

Re: [agi] Re: How does a machine "understand"? What is your definition of "understanding" for an AGI?

2021-07-10 Thread Peter Voss
https://chatbotslife.com/understanding-understanding-9dcc15759b5b *Peter Voss | CEO, Chief Scientist | pe...@aigo.ai | 424-335-9579 | www.Aigo.ai * On Fri, Jul 9, 2021 at 5:16 PM Mike Archbold wrote: > On 7/9/21, James Bowery wrote: > > Note that I avoided the word

Re: [agi] Re: How does a machine "understand"? What is your definition of "understanding" for an AGI?

2021-07-10 Thread Colin Hales
Hi Mike, One of the problems in this grip on 'understanding' or 'knowing' is a confusion of competency in knowing X as having anything to do with general intelligence. When the time comes I could probably toss my hat into the ring on this. I recently had an opportunity to explain this to a bunch