Re: [agi] Can symbolic approach entirely replace NN approach?

2024-06-16 Thread John Rose
On Sunday, June 16, 2024, at 7:09 PM, Matt Mahoney wrote: > Not everything can be symbolized in words. I can't describe what a person > looks as well as showing you a picture. I can't describe what a novel > chemical smells like except to let you smell it. I can't tell you how to ride > a bicycl

Re: [agi] Can symbolic approach entirely replace NN approach?

2024-06-16 Thread Matt Mahoney
Not everything can be symbolized in words. I can't describe what a person looks as well as showing you a picture. I can't describe what a novel chemical smells like except to let you smell it. I can't tell you how to ride a bicycle without you practicing. On Sun, Jun 16, 2024, 5:36 PM John Rose w

Re: [agi] Re: Internal Time-Consciousness Machine (ITCM)

2024-06-16 Thread Matt Mahoney
It is an interesting paper. But even though it references Tononi's integrated information theory, I don't think it says anything about consciousness. It is just the name they gave to part of their model. They refer to a "consciousness vector" as the concatenation of vectors representing perceptions

Re: [agi] Can symbolic approach entirely replace NN approach?

2024-06-16 Thread John Rose
On Friday, June 14, 2024, at 3:43 PM, James Bowery wrote: >> Etter: "Thing (n., singular): anything that can be distinguished from >> something else." I simply use “thing” as anything that can be symbolized and a unique case are qualia where from a first-person experiential viewpoint a qualia ex