Not everything can be symbolized in words. I can't describe what a person looks as well as showing you a picture. I can't describe what a novel chemical smells like except to let you smell it. I can't tell you how to ride a bicycle without you practicing.
On Sun, Jun 16, 2024, 5:36 PM John Rose <johnr...@polyplexic.com> wrote: > On Friday, June 14, 2024, at 3:43 PM, James Bowery wrote: > > Etter: "Thing (n., singular): anything that can be distinguished from > something else." > > > I simply use “thing” as anything that can be symbolized and a unique case > are qualia where from a first-person experiential viewpoint a qualia > experiential symbol = the symbolized but for transmission the qualia are > fitted or compressed into symbol(s). So, for example “nothing” is a thing > simply because it can be symbolized. Is there anything that cannot be > symbolized? Perhaps things that cannot be symbolized, what would they be? > Pre-qualia? but then they are already symbolized since they are referenced… > You could generalize it and say all things are ultimately derivatives of > qualia and I speculate that it is impossible to name one that is not. Note > that in ML a perceptron or a set of perceptrons could be considered > artificial qualia symbol emitters and perhaps that’s why they are named > such, percept -> tron. A basic binary classifier is emitting an > experiential symbol as a bit and more sophisticated perceptrons emit higher > symbol complexity such as color codes or text characters. > > *Artificial General Intelligence List <https://agi.topicbox.com/latest>* > / AGI / see discussions <https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi> + > participants <https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/members> + > delivery options <https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/subscription> > Permalink > <https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/T682a307a763c1ced-Ma5a8d7f7d388f150f9437cf3> > ------------------------------------------ Artificial General Intelligence List: AGI Permalink: https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/T682a307a763c1ced-M33eaab901fc926ab4a6ae137 Delivery options: https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/subscription