Ben,
> One question
is whether it's enough to create general
> pattern-recognition
functionality, and let it deal with "seeking
> meaning for symbols"
as a subcase of its general behavior. Or does
> one need to create
special heuristics/algorithms/structures just for
> guiding this
parti
> > We need one of the technologies to evolve to the point where it delivers
> > decent spatial AND temporal resolution...
>
>
> That's exactly what I meant actually: combined FMRI and MEG
> within the same experiment. You get data from each
> simultaneously and combine them afterwards, using th
>
>
> > As you can imagine it's very weak spatially, but far more precise
> > temporally than PET or FMRI, which can only measure blood flow
> > changes occuring 1 second or more after the source activity.
> >
> > I think combined MEG/FMRI(or was it PET/FMRI) is going to be able
> > to get the be
> As you can imagine it's very weak spatially, but far more precise
> temporally than PET or FMRI, which can only measure blood flow
> changes occuring 1 second or more after the source activity.
>
> I think combined MEG/FMRI(or was it PET/FMRI) is going to be able
> to get the best of both worlds
>
> I actually have a big MEG datafile on my hard drive, which I haven't gotten
> around to playing with.
>
> It consists of about 120 time series, each with about 100,000 points in it.
>
> It represents the magnetic field of someone's brain, measured through 120
> sensors on their skull, while
Hi,
> Just FYI, MEG's (Magnetoencephalography) is a good step in
> providing temporal precision, but is still a long way from
> discerning individual neurons. It can basically give us EEG
> measurements from deep inside the brain without using
> electrodes(which obviously opens alot of doors fo
>
> That was exactly my impression when I last looked seriously into
> neuroscience (1995-96). I wanted to understand cognitive dynamics, and I
> hoped that tech like PET and fMRI would do the trick. But nothing existing
> giving the combination of temporal and spatial acuity that you'd need to
> Yes, getting this data is what the entire field of neurophys is
> about. Being able to extract it without using surgery,
> electrodes, amplifiers, and gajillions of manhours would be
> outstanding. A lack of data is the primary thing holding
> neuroscience back and to a large degree, the depth
>
> Indeed, making the declarative knowledge derived from "rattling off
> parameters describing procedures" useful is a HARD problem... but at least
> Novamente can get the data, which as you have greed, would seem to give AI
> systems an in-principle advantage over humans in this area...
>
> It
Hi,
> I disagree that we have a problem converting procedural to
> declarative for all domains.
Sure, you're right. Here as in many other areas, the human brain's
performance is highly domain-variant.
> That said, Novamente would be far better at it than we. With the
> ability to understand i
>
> Yep. Novamente contains particular mechanisms for converting between
> declarative and procedural knowledge... something that is learned
> procedurally can become declarative and vice versa. In fact, if all goes
> according to plan (a big if of course ;) Novamente should *eventually* be
> mu
In a message dated 2/27/2003 7:04:37 AM Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
In theory they could be encoded, but this would be a lot
harder than formally encoding, say, English syntax, which has not yet been
done with full success.
I'll say. It's difficult enough to be able repres
In a message dated 2/26/2003 9:47:58 PM Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Human children will learn that certain sound patterns are associated
with patterned human behaviour. So very soon (plus or minus one
year) children will start to accumulate awareness of words that they
kn
Hi,
Philip wrote:
> But whichever way it goes it seems to me that it would be a useful thing
> to equip baby AGIs with the urge and capacity to seek meaning for
> symbols/simple for apparently important behaviours/environmental
> patterns.
Yes, I think this is a useful and important thing, indee
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