Re: [agi] structure of the mind

2007-03-19 Thread J. Storrs Hall, PhD.
On Monday 19 March 2007 19:36, Ben Goertzel wrote: > For instance, Baum's Hayek is an innovative and exciting use of > economics in an AI learning context, > yet the approach seems not to be scalable into anything resembling an > AGI architecture. Charles Smith (http://autogeny.org/chsmith.html)

Re: [agi] Emergence

2007-03-19 Thread Ben Goertzel
Russell Wallace wrote: On 3/19/07, *Ben Goertzel* <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: According to the above definition, it is quite possible to engineer systems with emergent properties, and to prove things about the constraints on emergent system properties as we

Re: [agi] structure of the mind

2007-03-19 Thread Ben Goertzel
J. Storrs Hall, PhD. wrote: On Monday 19 March 2007 17:30, Ben Goertzel wrote: ... My own view these days is that a wild combination of agents is probably not the right approach, in terms of building AGI. Novamente consists of a set of agents that have been very carefully sculpted to work to

[agi] structure of the mind

2007-03-19 Thread J. Storrs Hall, PhD.
On Monday 19 March 2007 17:30, Ben Goertzel wrote: ... > My own view these days is that a wild combination of agents is > probably not the right approach, in terms of building AGI. > > Novamente consists of a set of agents that have been very carefully > sculpted to work together in such a way as t

Re: [agi] Emergence

2007-03-19 Thread Russell Wallace
On 3/19/07, Ben Goertzel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: According to the above definition, it is quite possible to engineer systems with emergent properties, and to prove things about the constraints on emergent system properties as well. Sure. I'm not claiming it's impossible (see the "couldn't/

Re: [agi] Emergence

2007-03-19 Thread Ben Goertzel
Like so many other terms relevant to AGI, "emergence" has a lot of different meanings. Some have used a very strong interpretation that I don't like much... a meaning like "a property of a collective that is fundamentally unpredictable based on the components" According to my interpretatio

[agi] Emergence

2007-03-19 Thread Russell Wallace
On 3/19/07, Ben Goertzel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Minsky is not big on emergence This is an interesting point. I'm not big on emergence, not in artificial systems anyway. It produced us, sure, but that's one planet with intelligence out of a zillion universes without it. Emergence is what

Re: [agi] My proposal for an AGI agenda

2007-03-19 Thread Ben Goertzel
rooftop8000 wrote: Hi, I've been thinking for a bit about how a big collaboration AI project could work. I browsed the archives and i see you guys have similar ideas I'd love to see someone build a system that is capable of adding any kind of AI algorithm/idea to. It should unite the power o

Re: [agi] My proposal for an AGI agenda

2007-03-19 Thread rooftop8000
Hi, I've been thinking for a bit about how a big collaboration AI project could work. I browsed the archives and i see you guys have similar ideas I'd love to see someone build a system that is capable of adding any kind of AI algorithm/idea to. It should unite the power of all existing dif