On May 23, 2007, at 4:17 PM, Pei Wang wrote:
I continued to look for a publisher with tough peer-review procedure,
even after the manuscript had been rejected by more than a dozen of
them. Though the price excludes most of individual buyers, it may be
more likely for a research library to buy a
On Wednesday 23 May 2007 06:34:29 pm Mike Tintner wrote:
> My underlying argument, though, is that your (or any) computational model
> of emotions, if it does not also include a body, will be fundamentally
> flawed both physically AND computationally.
Does everyone here know what an ICE is in
Shane,
Well, I actually considered Lulu and similar publishers, though as the
last option. It is much easier to publish with them, but given the
nature of NARS, such a publisher will make the book even more likely
to be classified as by a crackpot. :(
I continued to look for a publisher with tou
Pei,
Yes, the book is the best source for most of the topics. Sorry for the
absurd price, which I have no way to influence.
It's $190. Somebody is making a lot of money on each copy and
I'm sure it's not you. To get a 400 page hard cover published at
lulu.com is more like $25.
Shane
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Eric,
The point is simply that you can only fully simulate emotions with a body as
well as a brain. And emotions while identified by the conscious brain are
felt with the body
I don't find it at all hard to understand - I fully agree - that emotions
are generated as a result of computations
P.S. Eric, I haven't forgotten your question to me, & will try to address it
in time - the answer is complex.
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On 5/23/07, Derek Zahn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I'm planning over the course of the rest of
the year to look in-depth at all of the AGI projects that include a
significant implementation component (that is, those that are not just books
musing about the nature of intelligence -- I am also read
Mike> Eric Baum: What is Thought [claims that] feelings.are
Mike> explainable by a computational model.
Mike> Feelings/ emotions are generated by the brain's computations,
Mike> certainly. But they are physical/ body events. Does your Turing
Mike> machine have a body other than that of some kind
On May 23, 2007, at 3:02 PM, Mike Tintner wrote:
Feelings/ emotions are generated by the brain's computations,
certainly. But they are physical/ body events. Does your Turing
machine have a body other than that of some kind of computer box?
And does it want to dance when it hears emotionall
>> AGIs (at least those that could run on current computers) cannot
>> really get excited about anything. It's like when you represent the
>> pain intensity with a number. No matter how high the number goes,
>> it doesn't really hurt. Real feelings - that's the key difference
>> between us and the
Richard> Mark Waser wrote:
>> AGIs (at least those that could run on current computers)
>> cannot really get excited about anything. It's like when you
Richard> represent
>> the pain intensity with a number. No matter how high the number
Richard> goes,
>> it doesn't really hurt. Real feelings - th
On 5/23/07, Mark Waser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
systems in that there has been success in processing huge amounts (corpuses,
corpi? :-) of data and producing results -- but it's *clearly* not the way
corpora
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> As I think about it, one problem is, depending on how its
> parametrized, its not going to build much of a world model.
> Say for example it uses trigrams. The average hs grad knows
> something like 50,000 words. So there are something like 10^17
> trigrams. It will never see enough data to build
The scholar and gentleman Jean-Paul Van Belle wrote:
> Universal compassion and tolerance are the ultimate
> consequences of enlightenment which one Matt on the
> list equated IMHO erroneously to high-orbit intelligence
> methinx subtle humour is a much better proxy for intelligence
>
> Jean-Pau
>> Also, I don't see how you can call a model "semantic" when it makes
>> no reference to the world.
Mark> Ah, but this is where it gets tricky. While the model makes no
Mark> reference to the world, it is certainly influenced by the fact
Mark> that 100% of it's data comes from the world -- whi
Pei Wang writes:
> Thanks for the interest. I'll do my best to help, though since I'm on>
> vacation in China, I may not be able to process my emails as usual.
Thank you for your response. I'm planning over the course of the rest of the
year to look in-depth at all of the AGI projects that i
Also, I don't see how you can call a model "semantic" when it makes
no reference to the world. The model as described by Wikipedia
could have the capability of telling me whether a sentence is
natural or highly unlikely, but unless I misunderstand something,
there is no possibility it could tel
A meta-question here with some prefatory information . . . .
The reason why I top-post (and when I do so, I *never* put content inside)
is because I frequently find it *really* convenient to have the entire text
of the previous message or two (no more) immediately available for
reference.
On
I'll take a shot at answering some of your questions as someone who has done
some work and research but is certainly not claiming to be an expert . . . .
Wikipedia says that various quantities are "learnable" because they can
in principle be determined by data. What is known about whether they
A google search on "operator grammar" + trigram
yields nada.
A google search on "operator grammar" + bigram yields nothing
interesting.
I've seen papers on statistical language parsing before,
including trigrams etc. Not so clear to me the extent to which
they've been merged with Harris's work.
Universal compassion and tolerance are the ultimate consequences of
enlightenment
which one Matt on the list equated IMHO erroneously to high-orbit
intelligence
methinx subtle humour is a much better proxy for intelligence
Jean-Paul
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One way to
Hi,
On 5/23/07, Mark Waser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> On 5/20/07, Mark Waser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>> > On 5/16/07, Mark Waser <[EMAIL PROTECTE
Mark Waser wrote:
AGIs (at least those that could run on current computers)
cannot really get excited about anything. It's like when you represent
the pain intensity with a number. No matter how high the number goes,
it doesn't really hurt. Real feelings - that's the key difference
between us and
On 5/22/07, Derek Zahn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Pei,
As part of my ongoing AGI education, I am beginning to study NARS in some
detail.
Thanks for the interest. I'll do my best to help, though since I'm on
vacation in China, I may not be able to process my emails as usual.
As has been dis
This is based purely on reading the wikipedia entry on Operator
grammar, which I find very interesting. I'm hoping someone out there
knows enough about this to answer some questions :^)
Wikipedia says that various quantities are "learnable" because they can
in principle be determined by data. Wh
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