Re: [agi] NL interface

2007-12-21 Thread YKY (Yan King Yin)
On 12/21/07, Stephen Reed [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The above propositions have terms expressed in RDF, but are presented in the lispy fashion desired by the original Fluid Construction Grammar implementers. (predicate subject object). Note that I include discourse axioms (e.g.

Re: [agi] AGI and Deity

2007-12-21 Thread Stan Nilsen
Greetings j.k. one response: Given the example of exploring all math avenues... 1. (possible?) I'm not able to appreciate the task being considered, but I'm willing to take your word that it is possible and desirable. 2. (qualify as way beyond) I submit that it is way beyond the human

Re : Re : [agi] List of Java AI tools libraries

2007-12-21 Thread Bruno Frandemiche
http://www.mindmakers.org/projects/Psyclone http://mindmakers.org/mindmakers/openair/airPage.jsp http://mindmakers.org/mindmakers/openair/download/downloadPage.jsp - Message d'origine De : Charles D Hixson [EMAIL PROTECTED] À : agi@v2.listbox.com Envoyé le : Jeudi, 20 Décembre 2007,

Re: Re : Re : [agi] List of Java AI tools libraries

2007-12-21 Thread Stephen Reed
Thanks Bruno, I will include a link for the OpenAir Java implementation in my link list at: http://texai.org/blog/software-links/ -Steve Stephen L. Reed Artificial Intelligence Researcher http://texai.org/blog http://texai.org 3008 Oak Crest Ave. Austin, Texas, USA 78704 512.791.7860 -

Re: Possibility of superhuman intelligence (was Re: [agi] AGI and Deity)

2007-12-21 Thread Richard Loosemore
Matt Mahoney wrote: --- Richard Loosemore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Matt Mahoney wrote: --- Stan Nilsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Matt, Thanks for the links sent earlier. I especially like the paper by Legg and Hutter regarding measurement of machine intelligence. The other paper I find

Re: [agi] NL interface

2007-12-21 Thread Matt Mahoney
--- YKY (Yan King Yin) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm planning to write an NL interface that uses templates to eliminate parsing and thus achieve 100% accuracy for a restricted subset of English (for example, asking the user to disambiguate parts of speech, syntax etc). It seems that such a

Re: Possibility of superhuman intelligence (was Re: [agi] AGI and Deity)

2007-12-21 Thread Matt Mahoney
--- Richard Loosemore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Matt Mahoney wrote: --- Stan Nilsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Matt, Thanks for the links sent earlier. I especially like the paper by Legg and Hutter regarding measurement of machine intelligence. The other paper I find difficult,

Re: Possibility of superhuman intelligence (was Re: [agi] AGI and Deity)

2007-12-21 Thread Matt Mahoney
--- Richard Loosemore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Still more nonsense: as I have pointed out before, Hutter's implied definitions of agent and environment and intelligence are not connected to real world usages of those terms, because he allows all of these things to depend on infinities

Re: Possibility of superhuman intelligence (was Re: [agi] AGI and Deity)

2007-12-21 Thread Vladimir Nesov
On Dec 21, 2007 6:56 PM, Matt Mahoney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Richard Loosemore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Still more nonsense: as I have pointed out before, Hutter's implied definitions of agent and environment and intelligence are not connected to real world usages of those terms,

Re: Possibility of superhuman intelligence (was Re: [agi] AGI and Deity)

2007-12-21 Thread Matt Mahoney
--- Vladimir Nesov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Dec 21, 2007 6:56 PM, Matt Mahoney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Richard Loosemore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Still more nonsense: as I have pointed out before, Hutter's implied definitions of agent and environment and intelligence are not

Re: Possibility of superhuman intelligence (was Re: [agi] AGI and Deity)

2007-12-21 Thread Vladimir Nesov
On Dec 21, 2007 10:36 PM, Matt Mahoney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The problem here seems to be that we can't agree on a useful definition of intelligence. As a practical matter, we are interested in an agent meeting goals in a specific environment, or a finite set of environments, not all

Re: Possibility of superhuman intelligence (was Re: [agi] AGI and Deity)

2007-12-21 Thread Mike Tintner
Matt: Humans cannot recognize intelligence superior to their own. This like this whole thread is not totally but highly unimaginative. No one is throwing out any interesting ideas about what a superior intelligence might entail. Mainly it's the same old mathematical, linear approach.

RE: Possibility of superhuman intelligence (was Re: [agi] AGI and Deity)

2007-12-21 Thread Ed Porter
I fail to see why it would not at least be considered likely that a mechanical brain that could do all the major useful mental processes the human mind does, but do them much faster over a much, much larger recorded body of experience and learning, would not be capable of greater intelligence

Re: Possibility of superhuman intelligence (was Re: [agi] AGI and Deity)

2007-12-21 Thread aiguy
How about how many useful patents the AGI can lay claim to in a year. We feed in all the world's major problems and ask it for any inventions which would provide cost effictive partial solutions towards solving these problems. Obviously there will be many alternate problems and solution paths

Re: Possibility of superhuman intelligence (was Re: [agi] AGI and Deity)

2007-12-21 Thread Matt Mahoney
--- Vladimir Nesov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Intelligence is 'what brains do' --- Mike Tintner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Don't you read any superhero/superpower comics or sci-fi? Obviously there are an infinite number of very recognisable forms which a superhuman intelligence could take. ---

Re: [agi]

2007-12-21 Thread Lukasz Kaiser
They include a Parallel for statement for the .Net platform that I think will be eventually copied by the Java community. It seems to have low overhead, and I suppose that it works by having a hidden thread pool and VM optimization to execute the designated byte-codes in parallel. Let me

RE: Possibility of superhuman intelligence (was Re: [agi] AGI and Deity)

2007-12-21 Thread Ed Porter
As a lawyer, I can tell you there is no clear agreed upon definition for most words, but that doesn't stop most of us from using un-clearly defined words productively many times every day for communication with others. If you can only think in terms of what is exactly defined you will be denied