Re: [agi] Between logical semantics and linguistic semantics

2008-04-09 Thread Pei Wang
Lukasz, Thanks! To me, your "logical semantics" and "linguistic semantics" correspond to "meaning of concepts" and "meaning of words", respectively, and the latter is a subset of the former, as far as an individual is concerned. Some random comments on the Multinet material: *. Principal requir

Re: [agi] Between logical semantics and linguistic semantics

2008-04-09 Thread Stephen Reed
Lukasz, I am very pleased with my implementation of the few Double R Grammar rules required to incrementally parse "the book is on the table", which is an example sentence from Jerry Ball's paper. Dr. Ball is a proponent of cognitively plausible NLP architectures. -Steve Stephen L. Reed Art

Re: [agi] Nine Misunderstandings About AI

2008-04-09 Thread Richard Loosemore
Jiri Jelinek wrote: Richard, http://susaro.com/ 1) the "safety" stuff.. - For a while, AGI will IMO be abuse-vulnerable = as safe/unsafe as those who control it. 2) "[AI] does not devalue us".. - agreed.. My view: Problems for AIs, work for robots, feelings for us. Qualia - that's where the

Re: [agi] Nine Misunderstandings About AI

2008-04-09 Thread Jiri Jelinek
Richard, > http://susaro.com/ 1) the "safety" stuff.. - For a while, AGI will IMO be abuse-vulnerable = as safe/unsafe as those who control it. 2) "[AI] does not devalue us".. - agreed.. My view: Problems for AIs, work for robots, feelings for us. Qualia - that's where the value is. 3) AI thin

Re: [agi] Between logical semantics and linguistic semantics

2008-04-09 Thread Lukasz Stafiniak
Steve, I'm just on the 7th page of the Double R Grammar paper so I'm rushing ideas here, but it is interesting to see how Multinet, while taking roots in Conceptual Dependency Theory / Case Grammar, and taking the concepts it talks about as mental realities, lands quite close to the philosophy of

Re: [agi] How Bodies of Knowledge Grow

2008-04-09 Thread Mark Waser
>> I want to return to what seems to me the high-school-naive idea of how an >> AGI's or any body of knowledge can and/or does grow - i.e. linearly, >> mathematically and logically. I would argue that the idea that knowledge grows linearly is far worse than naive. Knowledge is all about collap

[agi] Minor milestone

2008-04-09 Thread J Storrs Hall, PhD
Just noticed that last month, a computer program beat a professional Go player (at a 9x9 game) (one game in 4). First time ever in a non-blitz setting. http://www.earthtimes.org/articles/show/latest-advance-in-artificial-intelligence,345152.shtml http://www.computer-go.info/tc/ -

Re: [agi] Between logical semantics and linguistic semantics

2008-04-09 Thread Lukasz Stafiniak
On Wed, Apr 9, 2008 at 6:03 AM, Stephen Reed <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Thanks for the compliment Lukasz. I am reading your slides and here are my > comments: > > (1) I had seven years experience with the Cyc project. Would you agree > that Cyc aspires to be a KRS as you define it? Well, a

[agi] How Bodies of Knowledge Grow

2008-04-09 Thread Mike Tintner
I want to return to what seems to me the high-school-naive idea of how an AGI's or any body of knowledge can and/or does grow - i.e. linearly, mathematically and logically. Correct me, but I haven't seen any awareness in AI of the huge difficulties that result from the problem of : how do you t