Re: [agi] Enumeration of useful "genetic biases" for AGI

2007-02-21 Thread Ben Goertzel
Eric Baum wrote: -- Assume there will be persistent objects in the 3D space This is not innate. Babies don't recognize that when an object is hidden from view that it still exists. Ben> I'm extremely familiar with the literature on object permanence; Ben> and the truth seems to

Re: [agi] Enumeration of useful "genetic biases" for AGI

2007-02-16 Thread Eric Baum
>> -- Assume there will be persistent objects in the 3D space >> >> >> This is not innate. Babies don't recognize that when an object is >> hidden from view that it still exists. >> >> Ben> I'm extremely familiar with the literature on object permanence; Ben> and the truth seems to be tha

Re: [agi] Enumeration of useful "genetic biases" for AGI

2007-02-16 Thread Eric Baum
Matt> This is not innate. Babies don't recognize that when an object Matt> is hidden from view that it still exists. As Ben pointed out, this is not quite right. Extremely young babies display surprise when events are presented to them that would be surprising once you know about objects. How

Re: [agi] Enumeration of useful "genetic biases" for AGI

2007-02-15 Thread Ben Goertzel
-- Assume there will be persistent objects in the 3D space This is not innate. Babies don't recognize that when an object is hidden from view that it still exists. I'm extremely familiar with the literature on object permanence; and the truth seems to be that babies **do** have s

Re: [agi] Enumeration of useful "genetic biases" for AGI

2007-02-15 Thread Matt Mahoney
--- Ben Goertzel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Well, off-the-cuff, here are some biases that can be stated without > reference to underlying machinery: > > -- Assume perceptual inputs refer to a 3D space We don't really know if 3D models of space are innate or learned, and it would be hard to do

Re: [agi] Enumeration of useful "genetic biases" for AGI

2007-02-14 Thread Ben Goertzel
Richard Loosemore wrote: Ben, I am not sure the question has been stated clearly enough to be answered meaningfully, yet. The list given by your correspondent was extremely vague: what does it mean to talk about "an implicit set of constraints on ontologies that can be discovered by system

Re: [agi] Enumeration of useful "genetic biases" for AGI

2007-02-14 Thread gts
On Tue, 13 Feb 2007 21:28:53 -0500, Ben Goertzel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Toward that end, it would be interesting to have a systematic list somewhere of the genetic biases that are thought to be mostimportant for structuring human cognition. Does anyone know of a well-thought-out list of

Re: [agi] Enumeration of useful "genetic biases" for AGI

2007-02-14 Thread William Pearson
On 14/02/07, Ben Goertzel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Does anyone know of a well-thought-out list of this sort. Of course I could make one by surveying the cognitive psych literature, but why reinvent the wheel? None that I have come across. Biases that I have come across are things like payin

Re: [agi] Enumeration of useful "genetic biases" for AGI

2007-02-14 Thread Richard Loosemore
Ben, I am not sure the question has been stated clearly enough to be answered meaningfully, yet. The list given by your correspondent was extremely vague: what does it mean to talk about "an implicit set of constraints on ontologies that can be discovered by systematic 'scientific' investig

Re: [agi] Enumeration of useful "genetic biases" for AGI

2007-02-13 Thread Ben Goertzel
Matt Mahoney wrote: I don't think there is a simple answer to this problem. We observe very complex behavior in much simpler organisms that lack long term memory or the ability to learn. For example, bees are born knowing how to fly, build hives, gather food, and communicate its location.

Re: [agi] Enumeration of useful "genetic biases" for AGI

2007-02-13 Thread Matt Mahoney
February 13, 2007 9:28:53 PM Subject: [agi] Enumeration of useful "genetic biases" for AGI Hi, In a recent offlist email dialogue with an AI researcher, he made the following suggestion regarding the "inductive bias" that DNA supplies to the human brain to aid it in learning: *

Re: [agi] Enumeration of useful "genetic biases" for AGI

2007-02-13 Thread J. Storrs Hall, PhD.
Couldn't point you at anything systematic, but one good place to find biases is looking at superstition and magic, where you find things like the illusion of control, various tendencies to overanthropomorphize, causality attributed to similarity and contagion, and so forth. J On Tuesday 13 Feb

[agi] Enumeration of useful "genetic biases" for AGI

2007-02-13 Thread Ben Goertzel
Hi, In a recent offlist email dialogue with an AI researcher, he made the following suggestion regarding the "inductive bias" that DNA supplies to the human brain to aid it in learning: * What is encoded in the DNA may include a starting ontology (as proposed, with exasperating vaguess, by d