Re: [agi] The Collective Brain

2010-07-21 Thread Jan Klauck
Mike Tintner wrote You partly illustrate my point - you talk of artificial brains as if they actually exist That's the magic of thinking in scenarios. For you it may appear as if we couldn't differentiate between reality and a thought experiment. By implicitly pretending that artificial

Re: [agi] The Collective Brain

2010-07-21 Thread Matt Mahoney
agi@v2.listbox.com Sent: Tue, July 20, 2010 1:50:45 PM Subject: [agi] The Collective Brain http://www.ted.com/talks/matt_ridley_when_ideas_have_sex.html?utm_source=newsletter_weekly_2010-07-20utm_campaign=newsletter_weeklyutm_medium=email Good lecture worth looking at about how trade - exchange

[agi] The Collective Brain

2010-07-20 Thread Mike Tintner
http://www.ted.com/talks/matt_ridley_when_ideas_have_sex.html?utm_source=newsletter_weekly_2010-07-20utm_campaign=newsletter_weeklyutm_medium=email Good lecture worth looking at about how trade - exchange of both goods and ideas - has fostered civilisation. Near the end introduces a v. important

Re: [agi] The Collective Brain

2010-07-20 Thread Mike Tintner
of the individual. Plus you get sexual benefits. -- From: Jan Klauck jkla...@uni-osnabrueck.de Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 8:25 PM To: agi agi@v2.listbox.com Subject: Re: [agi] The Collective Brain Mike Tintner wrote Near the end introduces a v

Re: [agi] The Collective Brain

2010-07-20 Thread Mike Tintner
Ah the collective brain is saying something else as well - wh. is another reason why I was hoping to get a discussion. It's exemplified in the example of the mouse. Actually, Ridley is saying, the complete knowledge to build a mouse does not reside in any individual brain, or indeed by

Re: [agi] The Collective Brain

2010-07-20 Thread Jan Klauck
Mike Tintner wrote No, the collective brain is actually a somewhat distinctive idea. Just a way of looking at social support networks. Even social philosophers centuries ago had similar ideas--they were lacking our technical understanding and used analogies from biology (organicism) instead.

Re: [agi] The Collective Brain

2010-07-20 Thread Mike Tintner
they're forgotten. -- From: Jan Klauck jkla...@uni-osnabrueck.de Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2010 1:56 AM To: agi agi@v2.listbox.com Subject: Re: [agi] The Collective Brain Mike Tintner wrote No, the collective brain is actually a somewhat

Re: [agi] The Collective Brain

2010-07-20 Thread Michael Swan
represent one dimension of what is needed for a brain. -- From: Jan Klauck jkla...@uni-osnabrueck.de Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2010 1:56 AM To: agi agi@v2.listbox.com Subject: Re: [agi] The Collective Brain Mike Tintner wrote

Re: [agi] The Collective Brain

2010-07-20 Thread Michael Swan
, but most of the time they're forgotten. -- From: Jan Klauck jkla...@uni-osnabrueck.de Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2010 1:56 AM To: agi agi@v2.listbox.com Subject: Re: [agi] The Collective Brain Mike Tintner wrote No, the collective brain