Re: [agi] a2i2 news update

2007-08-06 Thread Benjamin Goertzel
Within Novamente LLC, we currently have 11 people currently working on projects directly related to AGI. But about half of those are working on infrastructural stuff, the other half on more directly AI coding. And our team's dedication to AGI-ish versus commercial work has fluctuated over time du

Re: [agi] a2i2 news update

2007-08-06 Thread Patrick McKown
Wouldn't you say the objectivity is limiting choice by limiting perception? Pat McKown On 8/5/07, Samantha Atkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 7/26/07, Robert Wensman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > What worries me is that the founder of this company subscribes to the > > philosophy of Obj

Re: [agi] a2i2 news update

2007-08-05 Thread Samantha Atkins
On 7/26/07, Robert Wensman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > What worries me is that the founder of this company subscribes to the > philosophy of Objectivism, and the implications this might have for the > company's possibility at achieving friendly AI. I do not know about the rest > of their team,

Re: [agi] a2i2 news update

2007-08-05 Thread Patrick McKown
Robert has some good, sound, fundamental points here. Rand seems to not understand that a psychopath in respect to humanity has no value, that it is a mutation that occurs, but in a social community it has no value, in the sense that human values have to be both selfish and altruistic to have 'val

Re: [agi] a2i2 news update

2007-07-26 Thread Robert Wensman
ns. -- *From:* Robert Wensman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Thursday, July 26, 2007 4:12 AM *To:* agi@v2.listbox.com *Subject:* Re: [agi] a2i2 news update What worries me is that the founder of this company subscribes to the philosophy of Objectivism, and the implica

Re: [agi] a2i2 news update

2007-07-26 Thread Mike Tintner
Peter V: Back to building brains. Peter, I notice, from your pages, you believe in a mechanistically-based free will. That's interesting to me because you are the first such person of any standing in AGI or related fields, that I have come across. All the others I know of - such as Ben, Pei,

RE: [agi] a2i2 news update

2007-07-26 Thread Peter Voss
g/summit2007/ That's about all I have time for now.. Back to building brains. _ From: Robert Wensman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2007 4:12 AM To: agi@v2.listbox.com Subject: Re: [agi] a2i2 news update What worries me is that the founder of this

Re: [agi] a2i2 news update

2007-07-26 Thread Bob Mottram
On 26/07/07, Robert Wensman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: So because this philosophy is controversial, it raises some interesting questions about Adaptive AI's plans for friendly AI. In practice the goals of the first AGIs will reflect those of the people who created it. As with our children, we

Re: [agi] a2i2 news update

2007-07-26 Thread Robert Wensman
What worries me is that the founder of this company subscribes to the philosophy of Objectivism, and the implications this might have for the company's possibility at achieving friendly AI. I do not know about the rest of their team, but some of them use the word "rational" a lot, which could be a

Re: [agi] a2i2 news update

2007-07-26 Thread Andrew Babian
Not only that, if you work in IT, you might think, considering how poorly adding people to a project works, is he getting desperate or just being foolish? andi On Wed, 25 Jul 2007 18:25:56 -0700 (PDT), Ton Genah wrote > Just increasing the number doesn’t guarantee a clear path towards "increased

Re: [agi] a2i2 news update

2007-07-25 Thread Ton Genah
Just increasing the number doesn’t guarantee a clear path towards "increased intelligence" . This seems to be the important issue in current AI and not the number! Ton Mike Tintner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: @font-face { font-family: Verdana; } @page Section1 {size: 8.5in

Re: [agi] a2i2 news update

2007-07-25 Thread justin corwin
On 7/25/07, Mike Tintner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Of course, numerical comparisons are petty, unfair and invidious. But being that sort of person, I can't help noticing that Peter is promising to increase his staff to 24 soon. Will that give him the biggest AGI army? How do the contenders stack

Re: [agi] a2i2 news update

2007-07-25 Thread Mike Tintner
Of course, numerical comparisons are petty, unfair and invidious. But being that sort of person, I can't help noticing that Peter is promising to increase his staff to 24 soon. Will that give him the biggest AGI army? How do the contenders stack up here? - This list is sponsored by AGIRI: h

Re: [agi] a2i2 news update

2007-07-25 Thread Ton Genah
Thanks, however there are no significant changes! Ton Lukasz Stafiniak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Thanks for posting! On 7/25/07, Peter Voss wrote: > > > > > Update from a2i2 -- http://adaptiveai.com/news > > > > Peter Voss > > > > Towards Increased Intelligence! > > ___

Re: [agi] a2i2 news update

2007-07-25 Thread Lukasz Stafiniak
Thanks for posting! On 7/25/07, Peter Voss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Update from a2i2 -- http://adaptiveai.com/news Peter Voss Towards Increased Intelligence! This list is sponsored by AGIRI: http://www.agiri.org/email To unsubscribe or change your