Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Resignation, favours, and pledge

2017-11-21 Thread Aris Merchant
I support the intent to call in the pledge; or, if it was invalid, intend with Agoran consent to call in the pledge. My basis for doing so is that the notorious scamster E.E. Rafa has willfully intended, contrived, and conspired (with emself; totally actual conspiracy) to abuse eir official powers

BUS: Resignation, favours, and pledge

2017-11-21 Thread VJ Rada
I award myself 3,000 justice favours for successfully pointing 3,000 fingers. I resign as referee. I intend to call in the pledge, with agoran consent, that states "I pledge to not point fingers" (or similar) -- >From V.J. Rada

Re: BUS: [Treasuror] Distribution

2017-11-21 Thread VJ Rada
Oh, there's one shiny of mine the ACU doesn't have? I transfer it to the ACU in exchange for 10 bills. On Wed, Nov 22, 2017 at 1:56 PM, VJ Rada wrote: > I transfer these two shinies to the Agoran Credit Union, creating 20 > Bills in my possession in return. > > On Wed, Nov

Re: BUS: [Treasuror] Distribution

2017-11-21 Thread VJ Rada
I transfer these two shinies to the Agoran Credit Union, creating 20 Bills in my possession in return. On Wed, Nov 22, 2017 at 1:55 PM, ATMunn wrote: > I transfer these two shinies to the Agoran Credit Union, creating 20 Bills > in my possession in return. (totally not

Re: BUS: [Treasuror] Distribution

2017-11-21 Thread ATMunn
I transfer these two shinies to the Agoran Credit Union, creating 20 Bills in my possession in return. (totally not copied and pasted directly from Telnaior's message) On 11/21/2017 9:46 PM, Owen Jacobson wrote: I cause Agora to distribute the following payments: Tue, 21 Nov 2017 11:03:12 ?

Re: BUS: [Treasuror] Distribution

2017-11-21 Thread Telnaior
I transfer these two shinies to the Agoran Credit Union, creating 20 Bills in my possession in return. On 2017-11-22 13:46, Owen Jacobson wrote: I cause Agora to distribute the following payments: Tue, 21 Nov 2017 11:03:12 ? P.S.S[1] paid Agora 1 sh. to create a stamp Tue, 21 Nov 2017

BUS: [Treasuror] Distribution

2017-11-21 Thread Owen Jacobson
I cause Agora to distribute the following payments: Tue, 21 Nov 2017 11:03:12 ? P.S.S[1] paid Agora 1 sh. to create a stamp Tue, 21 Nov 2017 14:26:25 ? ATMunn paid Agora 1 sh. to create a stamp Tue, 21 Nov 2017 14:26:25 ? ATMunn paid Agora 4 sh. Tue, 21 Nov 2017 23:46:59 ? V.J Rada paid Agora 1

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Assessor] Resolution of Proposals 7965-7972

2017-11-21 Thread ATMunn
I retract my CFJ. Someone else can call new ones if e wants. On 11/21/2017 8:56 PM, VJ Rada wrote: You might want to do each seperately, as they are seperate issues. On Wed, Nov 22, 2017 at 12:55 PM, ATMunn wrote: I AP CFJ on the following statement: In the below

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Clork] Weekly Report

2017-11-21 Thread VJ Rada
I spend 4 legislation favours to influence Clinton. I spend 1 favour to influence Bob. I advice both Clinton and Bob. On Wed, Nov 22, 2017 at 1:21 PM, VJ Rada wrote: > I spend 4 legislation favours to influence Clinton. I spend 1 favour > to influence Bob. I advice both

BUS: Re: OFF: [Clork] Weekly Report

2017-11-21 Thread VJ Rada
I spend my five Participation favours (which are SUL favours) to influence The Drunk Clinton. I become her (interesting question of pronoun use for those who care about it) advisor. On Wed, Nov 22, 2017 at 11:29 AM, Telnaior wrote: > PARTIES AND FAVOURS > --- >

Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Assessor] Resolution of Proposals 7965-7972

2017-11-21 Thread ATMunn
I AP CFJ on the following statement: In the below quoted message, PSS awarded favours. On 11/21/2017 8:41 PM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus wrote: I give 2 participation favours to each of Alexis, ATMunn, G., o, PSS, Telnaior, and VJ Rada. I award to VJ Rada 5 legislation favours and to G.

BUS: Favour stuff

2017-11-21 Thread ATMunn
If I have them, I spend my two Participation favours to gain 3 influence over John Johnson. I advise John Johnson.

Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Assessor] Resolution of Proposals 7965-7972

2017-11-21 Thread VJ Rada
I note two things. 1: It's a perverse incentive to award Justice Favours to those who point fingers at themselves 2: There's an immediacy requirement for legislation favours but not participation favours. Why? Who knows! I actually don't believe either of these favours worked. They both use

BUS: Re: OFF: [Assessor] Resolution of Proposals 7965-7972

2017-11-21 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
I give 2 participation favours to each of Alexis, ATMunn, G., o, PSS, Telnaior, and VJ Rada. I award to VJ Rada 5 legislation favours and to G. 2 legislation favours. I point the fingers at myself for not distributing favours immediately after the resolutions. On 11/21/2017 06:39 PM, Publius

BUS: Judgments on CFJs 3603 and 3604 (purported).

2017-11-21 Thread Alexis Hunt
VJ Rada's message, in which CFJ 3604 was possibly called, contained the text "SHINIES CFJ THIS IS A CFJ" in ASCII art. If, indeed, CFJ 3604 is a CFJ, then the judgment must trivially be TRUE. The question of whether it is, however, is the subject of CFJ 3603. There should be no barrier to

Re: BUS: Re: DIS: can contracts actually do officer stuff?

2017-11-21 Thread VJ Rada
I submit and pend the following proposal with shinies (transferring 10 notes to a shiny via ACU) Title: Clear-Statement Rule AI: 2.6 Text: This proposal has no effect if a proposal called "Open Season on Contracts" has passed. Amend the last paragraph of rule 2525 "Interpreting Contracts" to

BUS: Rulekeepor Titling fix

2017-11-21 Thread Alexis Hunt
Proposal: Rulekeepor Titling Fix (AI=3, coauthors=Telnaior, pend=AP) {{{ Amend rule 2141 (Role and Attribute of Rules) by replacing "the Rulekeepor SHALL assign a title to it by announcement in a timely fashion." with "the Rulekeepor CAN and SHALL, in a timely fashion, cause this rule to assign

Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Treasuror] Weekly Report

2017-11-21 Thread Owen Jacobson
On Nov 21, 2017, at 9:25 AM, ATMunn wrote: > CoE: Right before you published this revision, VJ Rada claimed a reward of 5 > shinies for eir recent report, bringing the Floating value down to 0. The Floating Value doesn’t change on its own. I deny this claim of error.

Re: BUS: Re: DIS: can contracts actually do officer stuff?

2017-11-21 Thread Alexis Hunt
On Tue, 21 Nov 2017 at 15:42 Aris Merchant < thoughtsoflifeandligh...@gmail.com> wrote: > I submit the following proposal (I wrote it a few days ago, but hadn't > submitted it yet): > > {{Title: Contract Flexibility Act > Adoption index: 2.6 > Author: Aris > Co-author(s): V.J. Rada, Ørjan > >

Re: BUS: (Unofficial) FLR COE

2017-11-21 Thread Alexis Hunt
These were unrelated; PDCW was left out of the index which actually generates the ruleset (I want to fix this, but haven't yet); 7934 for rule 2531 was just a typo, it was supposed to say 7964. On Mon, 20 Nov 2017 at 20:37 Alexis Hunt wrote: > On Mon, 20 Nov 2017 at 20:33 VJ

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Favours

2017-11-21 Thread VJ Rada
Oh I have to explicitly advise? I thought the person w/ the most was automatically the advisor. I advise Mccarthy, Kingpin and Aristotle. On Wed, Nov 22, 2017 at 12:04 PM, Madeline wrote: > On 2017-11-22 11:59, VJ Rada wrote: >> >> I use 10 of my PLA favours on Joseph

BUS: Favours

2017-11-21 Thread VJ Rada
I use 10 of my PLA favours on Joseph "Stealin'" Mccarthy, 8 PLA favours on Xi Kingpin and 2 PLA favours on Aristotle. -- >From V.J. Rada

Re: BUS: [Proposal] Somehow This Got Through

2017-11-21 Thread Telnaior
Good catch by VJ Rada, I retract the quoted proposal and create+APpend the following one instead: Title: Somehow Both Of These Got Through Author: Telnaior Co-Authors: Alexis, VJ Rada AI: 1 { Amend the Rule "Favour Awards" by changing "For each voter who has not voted on an Agoran decision

BUS: Ayyyyy favours

2017-11-21 Thread VJ Rada
Economic favours cost 1 shiny right now. I believe I currently hold 5 shinies and 560 bills. I trade 200 of those bills for 20 shinies and use those 20 shinies to buy 20 economic favours. I also trade the other 5 of my shinies for bills using ACU. -- >From V.J. Rada

BUS: [Proposal] Somehow This Got Through

2017-11-21 Thread Telnaior
I create the following Proposal and spend an AP to pend it: Title: Somehow This Got Through Author: Telnaior Co-Author: Alexis AI: 1 { Amend the Rule "Favour Awards" by changing "For each voter who has not voted on an Agoran decision" to "For each voter who has voted on an Agoran decision" }

Re: BUS: [Agoran Credit Union]

2017-11-21 Thread ATMunn
I transfer all of my shinies to the ACU, causing ten times that number of Bills to be created in my possession. On 11/21/2017 5:03 AM, Owen Jacobson wrote: I need a sanity check, but I think all of these actions work. I pay Agora 1 sh. to create a contract titled “The Agoran Credit Union”,

BUS: Let's get this party started!

2017-11-21 Thread Telnaior
In accordance with the rule "Get This Party Started", I do the following: I create 20 politicians as follows: PLA - Platonic Isolationists 1. Aristotle 2. Joseph "Stealin'" McCarthy 3. Boris Eatstumuch 4. Xi Kingpin NPR - New Punchbowl Reformers 1. Nick P. Ronald 2. Mickey Joker 3. Mad Cap'n

BUS: What happened to this proposal

2017-11-21 Thread VJ Rada
This was created and pended with shinies on 9 Nov, don't think it was ever distributed. If I didn't pend it or it was self-ratified away, I now pend and create the following. I pend it with shinies, trading 10 notes to the ACU for one shiny. Title: Referee Reform Fix AI: 1.7 Text: At the end of

BUS: Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Assessor] Resolution of Proposals 7965-7972

2017-11-21 Thread VJ Rada
pf On Wed, Nov 22, 2017 at 10:43 AM, VJ Rada wrote: > I award myself a Red Ribbon > for 7969 and an Orange Ribbon for 7970 > > > > On Wed, Nov 22, 2017 at 10:39 AM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus > wrote: >> I resolve the decision(s)

BUS: Re: OFF: [Assessor] Resolution of Proposals 7965-7972

2017-11-21 Thread Reuben Staley
I award myself a red ribbon for Proposal 7965. On 11/21/2017 4:39 PM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus wrote: I resolve the decision(s) to adopt proposal(s) 7965-7972 below. [This notice resolves the Agoran decisions of

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Notary] Weekly Report

2017-11-21 Thread ATMunn
Ah, nevermind. I doubt it did, but just in case that made the whole message fail, I support. On 11/21/2017 6:02 PM, VJ Rada wrote: Agoran consent, not two support. On Wed, Nov 22, 2017 at 9:57 AM, ATMunn wrote: I support and do so. On 11/21/2017 3:11 PM, Corona

Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Notary] Weekly Report

2017-11-21 Thread ATMunn
I support and do so. On 11/21/2017 3:11 PM, Corona wrote: I support On 11/20/17, Aris Merchant wrote: On Mon, Nov 20, 2017 at 10:29 PM Owen Jacobson wrote: On Nov 21, 2017, at 1:26 AM, VJ Rada wrote: This is my

BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 7973-7880

2017-11-21 Thread Kerim Aydin
I vote: > 7973* Aris 1.0 Sky Pillars ArisOP [1] AGAINST. I'm uncomfortable with such an open-ended and yet undefined memorial. > 7974* V.J. Rada3.0 [2] Really minor fixes V.J. Rada 1 AP AGAINST. > 7975* ATMunn, [3] 2.0 Auctions

Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 7973-7880

2017-11-21 Thread Corona
I vote as follows: > ID Author(s) AI Title Pender Pend fee > --- > 7973* Aris 1.0 Sky Pillars Aris OP [1] FOR > 7974* V.J. Rada 3.0 [2] Really minor fixes V.J. Rada 1 AP AGAINST > 7975* ATMunn, [3] 2.0 Auctions v6 ATMunn 1 AP

BUS: Re: DIS: can contracts actually do officer stuff?

2017-11-21 Thread Aris Merchant
I submit the following proposal (I wrote it a few days ago, but hadn't submitted it yet): {{Title: Contract Flexibility Act Adoption index: 2.6 Author: Aris Co-author(s): V.J. Rada, Ørjan Amend Rule 2525, Interpreting Contracts, by: Removing item 6 of the numbered list and renumbering

BUS: I become a party to the Order of the Occult Hand

2017-11-21 Thread Corona
What the subject says

Re: BUS: [Agoran Credit Union]

2017-11-21 Thread Corona
I become a party. On 11/21/17, ATMunn wrote: > Oops, report, not repor. > > If the below action of claiming a reward failed, I claim a reward of 5 > shinies for my recent ADoP *report*. > > On 11/21/2017 9:34 AM, ATMunn wrote: >> I become a party to the ACU, and destroy

Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Treasuror] Weekly Report

2017-11-21 Thread Corona
I buy a stamp for 1sh On 11/21/17, ATMunn wrote: > Also, I buy a stamp for 1 sh. > > On 11/21/2017 9:25 AM, ATMunn wrote: >> CoE: Right before you published this revision, VJ Rada claimed a reward of >> 5 shinies for eir recent report, bringing the Floating value down to

Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Notary] Weekly Report

2017-11-21 Thread Corona
I support On 11/20/17, Aris Merchant wrote: > On Mon, Nov 20, 2017 at 10:29 PM Owen Jacobson wrote: > >> >> > On Nov 21, 2017, at 1:26 AM, VJ Rada wrote: >> > >> > This is my 48 hours notice. I intend to remove all parts

BUS: (no subject)

2017-11-21 Thread Kerim Aydin
I shiny-CFJ on the following statement: G. CAN assign this CFJ to emself by announcement. ARGUMENTS Rule 991 last paragraph paraphrases as following (full text in evidence). - Sentence 1 unequivocally states that the Arbitor CAN assign any player to be its judge by announcement. -

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 7973-7880

2017-11-21 Thread Alexis Hunt
I change my vote on proposal 7974 to AGAINST. (You should have chosen more carefully, in any case; you'd want a scam that you could use immediately because there's a decent chance I would have picked it up during rulekeeping and then we would have been racing to exploit it). On Tue, 21 Nov 2017

Re: BUS: [Agoran Credit Union]

2017-11-21 Thread ATMunn
Oops, report, not repor. If the below action of claiming a reward failed, I claim a reward of 5 shinies for my recent ADoP *report*. On 11/21/2017 9:34 AM, ATMunn wrote: I become a party to the ACU, and destroy my 40 bills, causing the contract to transfer me 4 shinies. I transfer 4 shinies

Re: BUS: [Agoran Credit Union]

2017-11-21 Thread ATMunn
I become a party to the ACU, and destroy my 40 bills, causing the contract to transfer me 4 shinies. I transfer 4 shinies to Agora. I claim a reward of 5 shinies for my recent ADoP repor (just in time!) I now have a free stamp. :) (see my reply on the Treasuror's report) On 11/21/2017 5:03

Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Treasuror] Weekly Report

2017-11-21 Thread ATMunn
Also, I buy a stamp for 1 sh. On 11/21/2017 9:25 AM, ATMunn wrote: CoE: Right before you published this revision, VJ Rada claimed a reward of 5 shinies for eir recent report, bringing the Floating value down to 0. On 11/21/2017 1:34 AM, Owen Jacobson wrote: On Nov 21, 2017, at 1:32 AM, VJ

Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Treasuror] Weekly Report

2017-11-21 Thread ATMunn
CoE: Right before you published this revision, VJ Rada claimed a reward of 5 shinies for eir recent report, bringing the Floating value down to 0. On 11/21/2017 1:34 AM, Owen Jacobson wrote: On Nov 21, 2017, at 1:32 AM, VJ Rada wrote: Fri, 17 Nov 2017 21:38:19

Re: BUS: [Agoran Credit Union]

2017-11-21 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
I become a party. On 11/21/2017 05:03 AM, Owen Jacobson wrote: > I need a sanity check, but I think all of these actions work. > > I pay Agora 1 sh. to create a contract titled “The Agoran Credit Union”, with > the text: > > { > Any player CAN become a party to this contract by announcement.

Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Treasuror] Weekly Report

2017-11-21 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
As do I. On 11/21/2017 01:30 AM, VJ Rada wrote: > I buy a stamp for 1 shiny. > > On Tue, Nov 21, 2017 at 5:27 PM, Owen Jacobson wrote: >> As Treasuror, I flip the Floating Value to 4. >> >> Treasuror's Weekly Report >> >> Date of this report: Tue, 21 Nov 2017 >> Date of last

Re: BUS: [Agoran Credit Union]

2017-11-21 Thread Telnaior
Sure, that works for me. I cause TAHC to transfer all 45 shinies to Telnaior, then destroy TAHC. I become a party to The Agoran Credit Union, and transfer all 45 shinies in my possession to The Agoran Credit Union, gaining 450 Bills in return (for a total of 490 in my possession). On

Re: BUS: [Agoran Credit Union]

2017-11-21 Thread VJ Rada
I give that shiny to ACU and get 10 bills. On Tue, Nov 21, 2017 at 9:12 PM, Owen Jacobson wrote: > >> On Nov 21, 2017, at 5:10 AM, Owen Jacobson wrote: >> >> >>> On Nov 21, 2017, at 5:03 AM, Owen Jacobson wrote: >>> >>> I need a sanity

Re: BUS: [Agoran Credit Union]

2017-11-21 Thread Owen Jacobson
> On Nov 21, 2017, at 5:10 AM, Owen Jacobson wrote: > > >> On Nov 21, 2017, at 5:03 AM, Owen Jacobson wrote: >> >> I need a sanity check, but I think all of these actions work. >> >> I pay Agora 1 sh. to create a contract titled “The Agoran Credit Union”,

Re: BUS: [Agoran Credit Union]

2017-11-21 Thread Owen Jacobson
> On Nov 21, 2017, at 5:03 AM, Owen Jacobson wrote: > > I need a sanity check, but I think all of these actions work. > > I pay Agora 1 sh. to create a contract titled “The Agoran Credit Union”, with > the text: I duly distribute this payment, and cause Agora to pay

Re: BUS: [Agoran Credit Union]

2017-11-21 Thread VJ Rada
I become a party to this contract. I pay this contract all my shinies and get 10 times that many bills. On Tue, Nov 21, 2017 at 9:03 PM, Owen Jacobson wrote: > I need a sanity check, but I think all of these actions work. > > I pay Agora 1 sh. to create a contract titled “The

BUS: [Agoran Credit Union]

2017-11-21 Thread Owen Jacobson
I need a sanity check, but I think all of these actions work. I pay Agora 1 sh. to create a contract titled “The Agoran Credit Union”, with the text: { Any player CAN become a party to this contract by announcement. Any party other than the Chair CAN cease to be a party (syn. leave the

Re: BUS: Re: DIS: base currency discussion

2017-11-21 Thread Telnaior
Oops, good catch. I transfer one shiny to Aris for the aforementioned reason. (In terms of nomic, I see lawful vs chaotic as willingness to scam, and good vs evil as willingness to boost your own position at the cost of the game) On 2017-11-21 20:40, VJ Rada wrote: I'm going to transfer

Re: BUS: Re: DIS: base currency discussion

2017-11-21 Thread Telnaior
On 2017-11-21 20:24, Owen Jacobson wrote: On Nov 21, 2017, at 4:14 AM, Telnaior wrote: On 2017-11-21 19:57, Owen Jacobson wrote: Incidentally, I think the distribution rules, fiddly though they are, are actually working as intended, but I want to get other players’

Re: BUS: Re: DIS: base currency discussion

2017-11-21 Thread Owen Jacobson
> On Nov 21, 2017, at 4:14 AM, Telnaior wrote: > > On 2017-11-21 19:57, Owen Jacobson wrote: >> >> Incidentally, I think the distribution rules, fiddly though they are, are >> actually working as intended, but I want to get other players’ perspective >> on them. The same

BUS: Re: DIS: base currency discussion

2017-11-21 Thread Telnaior
On 2017-11-21 19:57, Owen Jacobson wrote: Incidentally, I think the distribution rules, fiddly though they are, are actually working as intended, but I want to get other players’ perspective on them. The same handful of players have repeatedly benefitted from them without spending any