Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Equity case: PNP

2008-07-07 Thread comex
On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 4:57 PM, Zefram <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > ais523 wrote: >>However, given the PNP's stated method of acting, it might be quite >>difficult to return the chits; it would require amending the contract >>with support from all its members, > > ... which can be manifested by a c

Re: DIS: New FINE Proto

2008-07-07 Thread Ed Murphy
Sgeo wrote: > AI=1.7 > In Rule 1504, replace > { > * FINE, appropriate for rule breaches of small consequence. > When in effect, the ninny SHALL within 72 hours destroy one of > eir Notes. The ninny is only obliged to perform one > destruction per question on sentencing, eve

Re: DIS: Potential Proposal: Rule on the Reformed Bank of Agora

2008-07-07 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 8:23 PM, Ed Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I just don't have time to grok the economy in fullness i was working on a thesis on the topic but I gave up when the Bank of Agora collapsed.

Re: DIS: Potential Proposal: Rule on the Reformed Bank of Agora

2008-07-07 Thread Ed Murphy
root wrote: > I rather prefer the current decentralization of the economy, which > lets us experiment with multiple models at once. If players want to > use Chits as legal tender, they can. Players who have no interest in > the economy can just ignore it. I don't see a reason that any of this >

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: Refactor Extortion

2008-07-07 Thread Ed Murphy
root wrote: > On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 12:25 PM, Elliott Hird > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Why not repeal extortion? > > Why repeal it? It's a legit way to win. I just think that it should > be AI-2, and the "acting on behalf of Agora" bit is completely > unnecessary. It's relevant if Agora e

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Good night, ding ding ding ding ding!

2008-07-07 Thread Ed Murphy
Ivan Hope wrote: > On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 2:14 AM, Ed Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> I spend Db F Ab to increase Ivan Hope's VVLOD by 1. > > Thank you. What for? Because you were still languishing at 4.

DIS: Re: BUS: Win by Extortion

2008-07-07 Thread Ian Kelly
On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 5:29 PM, Kerim Aydin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Oh, hey. Anyone else want to support after the fact? Because I CFJ on the > following statement: > > Goethe won by extortion on or about June 7, 2008. I think you mean July 7. > Arguments: > > The way Support and

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Win by Extortion

2008-07-07 Thread Elliott Hird
2008/7/8 Kerim Aydin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Pending CFJ :) Oi, Protection Racket!

DIS: Re: BUS: Win by Extortion

2008-07-07 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Tue, 8 Jul 2008, Elliott Hird wrote: > 2008/7/8 Kerim Aydin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> words > > AWESOME. > > I support all of Sgeo's attempts to award wins on behalf of Agora. > > I just won :3 Pending CFJ :)

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Wins Are Very Very Valuable Things

2008-07-07 Thread Elliott Hird
2008/7/8 Kerim Aydin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Rule 2189/0 (Power=2) > Win by Extortion > > Upon a player... > ^^ As observant as the 3 people before you, I see.

DIS: Re: BUS: Wins Are Very Very Valuable Things

2008-07-07 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Mon, 7 Jul 2008, Taral wrote: > On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 12:52 PM, Elliott Hird > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> I intend, with Agoran Consent, to act on behalf of Agora to award a >> win to every person. > > I support. Rule 2189/0 (Power=2) Win by Extortion Upon a player... ^

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Win Announcement

2008-07-07 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Mon, 7 Jul 2008, Roger Hicks wrote: > On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 1:52 PM, Sgeo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> The following players have met the Win condition of Win by Extortion: >> Sgeo >> ais523 >> ihope >> Olipro >> cctoide >> root >> > > Me too! > > You also paid Goethe 7VP to support but decla

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Rule 869/25: I register

2008-07-07 Thread Elliott Hird
2008/7/7 Olipro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Someone posted a link to it some time in a channel I'm in, actually, I think > Sgeo found it at that time to by the same means. > > Olipro Sgeo is from IRCNomic/Canada.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: AAA - Secretary of Agriculture Report

2008-07-07 Thread Quazie
On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 3:23 PM, Benjamin Schultz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Jul 7, 2008, at 12:52 PM, Quazie wrote: > >> Without 3 proto-objections I proto-change the AAA contract as follows: >> --- >> Add the following after point f. within the 6th section of the AAA >> contract: >> " g. A fa

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Rule 869/25: I register

2008-07-07 Thread Olipro
Someone posted a link to it some time in a channel I'm in, actually, I think Sgeo found it at that time to by the same means. Olipro On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 11:20 PM, Elliott Hird < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 2008/7/7 Benjamin Schultz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > Welcome Olipro! How'd you find out

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: AAA - Secretary of Agriculture Report

2008-07-07 Thread Benjamin Schultz
On Jul 7, 2008, at 12:52 PM, Quazie wrote: Without 3 proto-objections I proto-change the AAA contract as follows: --- Add the following after point f. within the 6th section of the AAA contract: " g. A farmer CAN harvest any 4 consecutive numbers and specify another farmer. As soon as possib

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Rule 869/25: I register

2008-07-07 Thread Elliott Hird
2008/7/7 Benjamin Schultz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Welcome Olipro! How'd you find out about this game? > - > Benjamin Schultz KE3OM > OscarMeyr > Sgeo, I think. tusho

Re: DIS: New FINE Proto

2008-07-07 Thread Sgeo
On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 6:17 PM, Sgeo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Grah > AI=1.7 > In Rule 1504, replace > { >* FINE, appropriate for rule breaches of small consequence. > When in effect, the ninny SHALL within 72 hours destroy one of > eir Notes. The ninny is only obliged to perform

DIS: Re: BUS: Rule 869/25: I register

2008-07-07 Thread Benjamin Schultz
On Jul 7, 2008, at 12:31 PM, Olipro wrote: Under the terms of the aforementioned rule, I hereby announce that I wish to register myself and hereby exist as a "Registered" entity by declaring that I register and henceforth wish to be known under the name of 'Olipro'. Therefore, under Rule

Re: DIS: New FINE Proto

2008-07-07 Thread Sgeo
Grah AI=1.7 In Rule 1504, replace { * FINE, appropriate for rule breaches of small consequence. When in effect, the ninny SHALL within 72 hours destroy one of eir Notes. The ninny is only obliged to perform one destruction per question on sentencing, even if sentences of

Re: DIS: New FINE Proto

2008-07-07 Thread Sgeo
Oops AI=1.7 In Rule 1504, replace { * FINE, appropriate for rule breaches of small consequence. When in effect, the ninny SHALL within 72 hours destroy one of eir Notes. The ninny is only obliged to perform one destruction per question on sentencing, even if sentences of

Re: DIS: New FINE Proto

2008-07-07 Thread Sgeo
Add some judicial discretion AI=1.7 In Rule 1504, replace { * FINE, appropriate for rule breaches of small consequence. When in effect, the ninny SHALL within 72 hours destroy one of eir Notes. The ninny is only obliged to perform one destruction per question on sentencing, e

Re: DIS: New FINE Proto

2008-07-07 Thread Sgeo
Fixing Spear's objections AI=1.7 In Rule 1504, replace { * FINE, appropriate for rule breaches of small consequence. When in effect, the ninny SHALL within 72 hours destroy one of eir Notes. The ninny is only obliged to perform one destruction per question on sentencing, even

Re: DIS: New FINE Proto

2008-07-07 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 5:46 PM, Roger Hicks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Transferring the FINED assets to the Lost & Found Dept is reasonable > and would permit any contract to be fined. You can't transfer a fixed asset, but you can destroy it.

Re: DIS: New FINE Proto

2008-07-07 Thread Roger Hicks
On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 3:49 PM, Sgeo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > If the backing document is a rule, than the ninny will always be bound > by it, I'd assume.. > Unless the ninny is ehirder, I mean deregistered. BobTHJ

Re: DIS: New FINE Proto

2008-07-07 Thread Sgeo
On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 5:46 PM, Ian Kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 3:37 PM, Sgeo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> * FINE in a specified currency whose backing document specifies >> a FINE amount and for which the ninny is bound by the currency's >> backing document, appr

Re: DIS: New FINE Proto

2008-07-07 Thread Roger Hicks
On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 3:42 PM, Ian Kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 3:37 PM, Roger Hicks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> I would exclude any assets from destruction which are part of a >> zero-sum system (none at the moment as far as I am aware, but just in >> case). > > Yes

Re: DIS: New FINE Proto

2008-07-07 Thread Ian Kelly
On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 3:37 PM, Sgeo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > * FINE in a specified currency whose backing document specifies > a FINE amount and for which the ninny is bound by the currency's > backing document, appropriate for rule breaches of small consequence. > When in effect, th

Re: DIS: New FINE Proto

2008-07-07 Thread Ian Kelly
On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 3:37 PM, Roger Hicks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I would exclude any assets from destruction which are part of a > zero-sum system (none at the moment as far as I am aware, but just in > case). Yes, I agree that it should only be able to apply to contracts that allow it, or

Re: DIS: New FINE Proto

2008-07-07 Thread Sgeo
Fixing BobTHJ's objections AI=1.7 In Rule 1504, replace { * FINE, appropriate for rule breaches of small consequence. When in effect, the ninny SHALL within 72 hours destroy one of eir Notes. The ninny is only obliged to perform one destruction per question on sentencing, eve

Re: DIS: New FINE Proto

2008-07-07 Thread Ian Kelly
On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 3:35 PM, Sgeo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Can the judge really be trusted to specify an arbitrary amount? Sure, have the appropriateness scale with the amount. Then an inappropriate amount can be appealed. -root

Re: DIS: New FINE Proto

2008-07-07 Thread Roger Hicks
On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 3:32 PM, Ian Kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 3:23 PM, Sgeo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> * FINE in a specified currency whose backing document specifies >> a FINE amount, appropriate for rule breaches of small consequence. >>When in effe

Re: DIS: New FINE Proto

2008-07-07 Thread Sgeo
Fixing an objection raised by ais523 AI=1.7 In Rule 1504, replace { * FINE, appropriate for rule breaches of small consequence. When in effect, the ninny SHALL within 72 hours destroy one of eir Notes. The ninny is only obliged to perform one destruction per question on s

Re: DIS: New FINE Proto

2008-07-07 Thread Sgeo
On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 5:32 PM, Ian Kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 3:23 PM, Sgeo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> * FINE in a specified currency whose backing document specifies >> a FINE amount, appropriate for rule breaches of small consequence. >>When in effe

Re: DIS: New FINE Proto

2008-07-07 Thread Ian Kelly
On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 3:23 PM, Sgeo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > * FINE in a specified currency whose backing document specifies > a FINE amount, appropriate for rule breaches of small consequence. >When in effect, the ninny SHALL within 72 hours destroy the > amount of the specified

Re: DIS: Potential Proposal: Rule on the Reformed Bank of Agora

2008-07-07 Thread Roger Hicks
On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 3:21 PM, Sgeo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> I rather prefer the current decentralization of the economy, which >> lets us experiment with multiple models at once. If players want to >> use Chits as legal tender, they can. Players who have no interest in >> the economy can j

DIS: New FINE Proto

2008-07-07 Thread Sgeo
AI=1.7 In Rule 1504, replace { * FINE, appropriate for rule breaches of small consequence. When in effect, the ninny SHALL within 72 hours destroy one of eir Notes. The ninny is only obliged to perform one destruction per question on sentencing, even if sentences of

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2048 judged UNIMPUGNED by Taral

2008-07-07 Thread Taral
On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 2:08 PM, Zefram <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I thought that side of the case was uncontroversial. I think a determination as to the existence of truth values for actions is more appropriately achieved by an inquiry case, not an appeal of a criminal case. -- Taral <[EMAIL P

Re: DIS: Potential Proposal: Rule on the Reformed Bank of Agora

2008-07-07 Thread Sgeo
> I rather prefer the current decentralization of the economy, which > lets us experiment with multiple models at once. If players want to > use Chits as legal tender, they can. Players who have no interest in > the economy can just ignore it. I don't see a reason that any of this > needs to be

Re: DIS: Potential Proposal: Rule on the Reformed Bank of Agora

2008-07-07 Thread Ian Kelly
On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 11:27 AM, Olipro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > So, here's some ideas I've been bouncing around in my head; > > 1) a Rule declaring the RBoA to be a legal entity and as such, becomes > responsible for the value of the Chit, whilst at the same time, the Chit > will forma

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Bursting the bubble

2008-07-07 Thread Sgeo
On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 5:07 PM, Elliott Hird <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 2008/7/7 Sgeo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> As much as it pains me to be loyal to Agora > > Fixed that for you. > I SWHACK tusho for silliness (Canadian [nomic] in-joke)

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2048 judged UNIMPUGNED by Taral

2008-07-07 Thread Zefram
Taral wrote: >required to show that the accused did not believe eir statement to be >true. I thought that side of the case was uncontroversial. -zefram

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Bursting the bubble

2008-07-07 Thread Elliott Hird
2008/7/7 Sgeo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > As much as it pains me to be loyal to Agora Fixed that for you.

Re: DIS: 5629-5630

2008-07-07 Thread Zefram
comex wrote: >"Preparing for ostracism" and "One-off ostracism" were protos sent to >the discussion forum. Proposals 5629-5630 are not by me, but were >created by Zefram's act of distribution. Oops. Noted in historical record. -zefram

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Bursting the bubble

2008-07-07 Thread Sgeo
On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 5:00 PM, Ian Kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 2:53 PM, Elliott Hird > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> 2008/7/7 Ian Kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >>> You have to object to an action *before* it's performed if you want it >>> to have any effect. >>> >>> -roo

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2048 judged UNIMPUGNED by Taral

2008-07-07 Thread Taral
On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 1:55 PM, Zefram <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > With 2 support I intend to appeal Taral's verdict in CFJ 2048. > The judge has not referred to the alleged precedent that would make > a failing speech act merely ineffective rather than untruthful, and I > think e is mistaken in s

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Bursting the bubble

2008-07-07 Thread Ian Kelly
On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 2:53 PM, Elliott Hird <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 2008/7/7 Ian Kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> You have to object to an action *before* it's performed if you want it >> to have any effect. >> >> -root >> > > And did it? And did it what? -root

DIS: Re: BUS: Equity case: PNP

2008-07-07 Thread Zefram
ais523 wrote: >However, given the PNP's stated method of acting, it might be quite >difficult to return the chits; it would require amending the contract >with support from all its members, ... which can be manifested by a contract between all the members, such as an equation regarding the PNP. -

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Bursting the bubble

2008-07-07 Thread Elliott Hird
2008/7/7 Ian Kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > You have to object to an action *before* it's performed if you want it > to have any effect. > > -root > And did it?

DIS: Re: BUS: Wins Are Very Very Valuable Things

2008-07-07 Thread Ian Kelly
On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 1:52 PM, Elliott Hird <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I intend, with Agoran Consent, to act on behalf of Agora to award a > win to every person. You're not a player, and the time frame for performing this action will expire before you can become one. -root

DIS: Re: BUS: Bursting the bubble

2008-07-07 Thread Ian Kelly
On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 1:57 PM, ais523 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> With Agoran Consent, I act on behalf of Agora to award myself and all >> supporters a Win. > If possible, I object to all of Sgeo's current attempts to act on behalf > of Agora. (Apparently it's possible to support and oppose the

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Wins Are Very Very Valuable Things

2008-07-07 Thread Elliott Hird
2008/7/7 Geoffrey Spear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Well, only players can act on behalf of Agora with Agoran Consent, so > this probably won't do much good. But I offer moral support. > Maybe someone else can try it again tomorrow (Acting on behalf of Agora is being repealed, but you can still extort

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Win Announcement

2008-07-07 Thread Ian Kelly
On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 1:59 PM, Sgeo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Corrected win announcement: > > On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 3:56 PM, Roger Hicks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 1:52 PM, Sgeo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> The following players have met the Win condition of Win by

DIS: Re: BUS: Wins Are Very Very Valuable Things

2008-07-07 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 3:52 PM, Elliott Hird <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I intend, with Agoran Consent, to act on behalf of Agora to award a > win to every person. Well, only players can act on behalf of Agora with Agoran Consent, so this probably won't do much good. But I offer moral support.

DIS: Re: OFF: distribution of proposals 5599-5633

2008-07-07 Thread Ian Kelly
On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 2:43 PM, Ian Kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > For the following votes, UNCONSIDERED is a subtype of AGAINST meaning > that there are too many proposals at once, and I don't have the time > to fully consider the proposal's implications. BUGGY is a subtype of > AGAINST meani

DIS: Re: BUS: Wins Are Very Very Valuable Things

2008-07-07 Thread Sgeo
tusho, you're not a player, which rule 1728 requires.

DIS: Re: BUS: Gimme!

2008-07-07 Thread Roger Hicks
On Fri, Jul 4, 2008 at 11:57 AM, Ed Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I request subsidization. > Fails, you have 8 lands. BobTHJ

DIS: Re: Vote Market changes

2008-07-07 Thread Roger Hicks
I'd still like to get the consent of the Vote Market parties for the below change. BobTHJ On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 10:25 AM, Roger Hicks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 8:37 AM, Roger Hicks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Without three objections I intend to make the following cha

DIS: Re: BUS: Good night, ding ding ding ding ding!

2008-07-07 Thread ihope
On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 2:14 AM, Ed Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I spend Db F Ab to increase Ivan Hope's VVLOD by 1. Thank you. What for? --Ivan Hope CXXVII

DIS: Re: BUS: Win Announcement

2008-07-07 Thread Roger Hicks
On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 1:52 PM, Sgeo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The following players have met the Win condition of Win by Extortion: > Sgeo > ais523 > ihope > Olipro > cctoide > root > Me too! You also paid Goethe 7VP to support but declared your win before e had the chance to do so. BobTHJ

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Ticket

2008-07-07 Thread Elliott Hird
2008/7/7 Ian Kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Oops, I missed that it was a Buy Ticket. In that case: since when do > you have VP, anyway? > > -root > I posted it as a mistake. Previously ais523 had agreed that e would reserve the VP e stole from me for use as I wished, and I was going to use that.

DIS: Re: BUS: Ticket

2008-07-07 Thread Ian Kelly
On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 1:28 PM, Ian Kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 1:23 PM, Elliott Hird > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Buy Ticket >> Cost: 10VP >> Action: Object to Sgeo's attempt to Win by Extortion and do not >> retract this objection or support it. This ticket can be

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Ticket

2008-07-07 Thread Elliott Hird
2008/7/7 Ian Kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Meh. Ultimately I don't care too strongly whether the attempt is > successful or not. It's just a win, and I don't currently hold MwP, > so I really have nothing to lose by it. > > Since when can non-players object to dependent actions, anyway? > > -root

DIS: Re: BUS: Ticket

2008-07-07 Thread Ian Kelly
On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 1:23 PM, Elliott Hird <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Buy Ticket > Cost: 10VP > Action: Object to Sgeo's attempt to Win by Extortion and do not > retract this objection or support it. This ticket can be filled > multiple times. Meh. Ultimately I don't care too strongly whether

DIS: Re: BUS: Ticket

2008-07-07 Thread Sgeo
I act on behalf of tusho to cause tusho to take this pledge: { I, tusho, pledge not to post any tickets to try to get people to oppose Sgeo's intent to act on behalf of Agora, nor take any other action that might have the effect of causing Sgeo's attempt to win by extortion to fail.} I act on behal

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Ticket

2008-07-07 Thread Roger Hicks
On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 1:25 PM, Sgeo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 3:23 PM, Elliott Hird > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Buy Ticket >> Cost: 10VP >> Action: Object to Sgeo's attempt to Win by Extortion and do not >> retract this objection or support it. This ticket can be fill

DIS: Re: BUS: Ticket

2008-07-07 Thread Sgeo
On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 3:23 PM, Elliott Hird <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Buy Ticket > Cost: 10VP > Action: Object to Sgeo's attempt to Win by Extortion and do not > retract this objection or support it. This ticket can be filled > multiple times. > > tusho > I act on behalf of tusho to retract th

DIS: Vote Market - fulfillment of obligation

2008-07-07 Thread Roger Hicks
Wooble, to fulfill your obligation to me via the Vote Market agreement, please retract your previous votes and vote FOR x 6 on proposal #5591. BobTHJ

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: Refactor Extortion

2008-07-07 Thread Ian Kelly
On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 12:25 PM, Elliott Hird <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Why not repeal extortion? Why repeal it? It's a legit way to win. I just think that it should be AI-2, and the "acting on behalf of Agora" bit is completely unnecessary. -root

Re: DIS: Sgeo's win by extortion

2008-07-07 Thread Roger Hicks
On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 12:03 PM, Elliott Hird <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 2008/7/7 Elliott Hird <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> E is currently trying to convince Olipro to support it on IRC. If e >> does, e can spend some VP and win. >> >> Eek! A call to action! >> >> tusho >> > > Suggestion to all filled

DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: Refactor Extortion

2008-07-07 Thread Quazie
On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 11:23 AM, Ian Kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I submit the following proposal titled "Refactor Extortion" (AI=2): > > == > > Repeal Rule 2172 (Acting on Behalf of Agora). > > Amend Rule 2189 (Win by Extort

DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: Refactor Extortion

2008-07-07 Thread Elliott Hird
2008/7/7 Ian Kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > I submit the following proposal titled "Refactor Extortion" (AI=2): > > == > > Repeal Rule 2172 (Acting on Behalf of Agora). > > Amend Rule 2189 (Win by Extortion) to read: > > A playe

DIS: Re: BUS: Objection!

2008-07-07 Thread Elliott Hird
2008/7/7 Charles Reiss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > I object to all pending attempts to act on behalf of Agora [if I > haven't already]. > > -woggle > Thank you.

Re: BUS: Re: DIS: Sgeo's win by extortion

2008-07-07 Thread Sgeo
On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 2:14 PM, Ian Kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 11:34 AM, Elliott Hird > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> E is currently trying to convince Olipro to support it on IRC. If e >> does, e can spend some VP and win. >> >> Eek! A call to action! > > I object to

Re: DIS: Sgeo's win by extortion

2008-07-07 Thread Elliott Hird
2008/7/7 ais523 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > And breach the spirit of the Vote Market? > -- > ais523 > You bet.

Re: DIS: Sgeo's win by extortion

2008-07-07 Thread ais523
On Mon, 2008-07-07 at 19:03 +0100, Elliott Hird wrote: > 2008/7/7 Elliott Hird <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > E is currently trying to convince Olipro to support it on IRC. If e > > does, e can spend some VP and win. > > > > Eek! A call to action! > > > > tusho > > > > Suggestion to all filled VPers if

Re: DIS: Sgeo's win by extortion

2008-07-07 Thread Elliott Hird
2008/7/7 Elliott Hird <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > E is currently trying to convince Olipro to support it on IRC. If e > does, e can spend some VP and win. > > Eek! A call to action! > > tusho > Suggestion to all filled VPers if they don't want this to happen: Wait until objections come in before doing

DIS: Sgeo's win by extortion

2008-07-07 Thread Elliott Hird
E is currently trying to convince Olipro to support it on IRC. If e does, e can spend some VP and win. Eek! A call to action! tusho

DIS: Potential Proposal: Rule on the Reformed Bank of Agora

2008-07-07 Thread Olipro
Hi, So, here's some ideas I've been bouncing around in my head; 1) a Rule declaring the RBoA to be a legal entity and as such, becomes responsible for the value of the Chit, whilst at the same time, the Chit will formally become legal tender for settlement of all debts public and private. 2) the

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: AAA - Secretary of Agriculture Report

2008-07-07 Thread Taral
On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 9:52 AM, Quazie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Without 3 proto-objections I proto-change the AAA contract as follows: I proto-object. It's too powerful. -- Taral <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "Please let me know if there's any further trouble I can give you." -- Unknown

DIS: Re: BUS: Rule 869/25: I register

2008-07-07 Thread comex
On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 12:31 PM, Olipro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Under the terms of the aforementioned rule, I hereby announce that I wish to > register myself Welcome to Agora! > and hereby exist as a "Registered" entity Welcome to Agora! > by declaring that > I register Welcome to Agora! >

DIS: 5629-5630

2008-07-07 Thread comex
"Preparing for ostracism" and "One-off ostracism" were protos sent to the discussion forum. Proposals 5629-5630 are not by me, but were created by Zefram's act of distribution. I suppose I will vote for them anyway, though...

DIS: Re: BUS: Impeachment

2008-07-07 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Mon, 7 Jul 2008, Sgeo wrote: > AI=1.7 II=1 > "Impeachment" > { > In rule 1504, between the paragraphs describing the sentences of FINE > and CHOKEY, add the following paragraph > {{ > * IMPEACH from an elected office with a duration (the tariff) up to 60 > days multiplied by the power of the h

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2050 judged FALSE by Wooble

2008-07-07 Thread Quazie
On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 3:56 AM, Geoffrey Spear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 1:09 AM, Quazie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> With 2 support I intend to repeal this judgement. This judgement >> ignores the judgement of CFJ 2014, in which the word 'I' when used in >> a way such a

DIS: Re: BUS: Impeachment

2008-07-07 Thread Zefram
Sgeo wrote: >AI=1.7 II=1 >"Impeachment" Is this meant to become a proposal? It's not clear. -zefram

DIS: Re: BUS: AAA - Secretary of Agriculture Report

2008-07-07 Thread Quazie
Without 3 proto-objections I proto-change the AAA contract as follows: --- Add the following after point f. within the 6th section of the AAA contract: " g. A farmer CAN harvest any 4 consecutive numbers and specify another farmer. As soon as possible after doing so the SoA shall select a random,

DIS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2050 judged FALSE by Wooble

2008-07-07 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 1:09 AM, Quazie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > With 2 support I intend to repeal this judgement. This judgement > ignores the judgement of CFJ 2014, in which the word 'I' when used in > a way such as 'I' was used in the filling of this CFJ leads to an > ambiguous situation. '