DIS: Re: BUS: Elections!

2009-03-14 Thread Ed Murphy
Pavitra wrote: >> Anarchist: ehird, Yally, Tiger > denounce the Anarchist That doesn't work, though arguably in a two-horse race it would be a sufficiently obvious synonym for "if the Anarchist votes for one candidate, then I vote for the other one".

DIS: Re: BUS: SHOULD really sucks.

2009-03-14 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Sat, 14 Mar 2009, Sean Hunt wrote: > After having carefully considered the consequences of doing so, > including the fact that it opens up Agora to multiple easy wins; that it > reveals a serious flaw in the rules; and that it allows me to win, for > the duration of this message I will fail to

DIS: Re: BUS: SHOULD really sucks.

2009-03-14 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Sat, 14 Mar 2009, Sean Hunt wrote: > > If the proposal entitled "Fix recursive SHOULD" was adopted at the same > time as this proposal, it is of no effect. This is an interesting, orthogonal note. Assuming the referent o

DIS: Re: BUS: Elections!

2009-03-14 Thread Alex Smith
On Sat, 2009-03-14 at 03:15 -0500, Benjamin Caplan wrote: > > Anarchist: ehird, Yally, Tiger > denounce the Anarchist Is it even possible to denounce in an election where the choices aren't FOR/AGAINST/ABSTAIN? -- ais523

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: SHOULD really sucks.

2009-03-14 Thread Alex Smith
On Sat, 2009-03-14 at 07:52 -0700, Kerim Aydin wrote: > On Sat, 14 Mar 2009, Sean Hunt wrote: > > > > If the proposal entitled "Fix recursive SHOULD" was adopted at the same > > time as this proposal, it is of no effect. > >

DIS: Re: BUS: SHOULD really sucks.

2009-03-14 Thread Alex Smith
On Sat, 2009-03-14 at 00:53 -0600, Sean Hunt wrote: > After having carefully considered the consequences of doing so, > including the fact that it opens up Agora to multiple easy wins; that it > reveals a serious flaw in the rules; and that it allows me to win, for > the duration of this message I

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: SHOULD really sucks.

2009-03-14 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Sat, 14 Mar 2009, Alex Smith wrote: > On Sat, 2009-03-14 at 07:52 -0700, Kerim Aydin wrote: >> On Sat, 14 Mar 2009, Sean Hunt wrote: >>> >>> If the proposal entitled "Fix recursive SHOULD" was adopted at the same >>> time

DIS: Re: BUS: SHOULD really sucks.

2009-03-14 Thread comex
On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 2:53 AM, Sean Hunt wrote: > After having carefully considered the consequences of doing so, > including the fact that it opens up Agora to multiple easy wins; that it > reveals a serious flaw in the rules; and that it allows me to win, for > the duration of this message I w

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: SHOULD really sucks.

2009-03-14 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Sat, 14 Mar 2009, comex wrote: > But I believe this is incorrect, because this is not a pragmatic > nomic: it's a platonic nomic with some explicit elements of > pragmatism. Perhaps a typical example of the fallacy of "I Think It Is, Therefore It Has Become So"?

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: SHOULD really sucks.

2009-03-14 Thread Elliott Hird
2009/3/14 Kerim Aydin : > Perhaps a typical example of the fallacy of "I Think It Is, Therefore It > Has Become So"? That has plagued Agora for a long time?

DIS: Re: BUS: The inevitable CfJs

2009-03-14 Thread Ed Murphy
ais523 wrote: > For an even more stark example of this (which may not be directly > applicable), consider a power-3 rule saying "Players MAY A. Players MAY > B.", and a power-1 rule saying "Players MAY NOT B." In this situation, I > believe that B is illegal (although punishments for it would be f

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: SHOULD really sucks.

2009-03-14 Thread Ed Murphy
Goethe wrote: > Yah, that would be fine for the same practical effect, although it couldn't > wholly undo things - if the previous one changed a rule and then a later > one put it back, at the very least an amendment number would change. It > would be possible to go further and retroactively rese

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: The inevitable CfJs

2009-03-14 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Sat, 14 Mar 2009, Ed Murphy wrote: >> For an even more stark example of this (which may not be directly >> applicable), consider a power-3 rule saying "Players MAY A. Players MAY >> B.", and a power-1 rule saying "Players MAY NOT B." In this situation, I >> believe that B is illegal (although p

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: The inevitable CfJs

2009-03-14 Thread Warrigal
On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 5:05 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > Not so good.  This means that if a power-1 rule says MAY X, and a power-2 > rule says MAY NOT X, then the power-3 MMI would make the power-1 MAY > take precedence over the power-2 MAY NOT. MMI provides definitions only. If the Oxford English D

DIS: Re: BUS: PNP Parties Change

2009-03-14 Thread Warrigal
On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 5:33 PM, The PerlNomic Partnership wrote: > This message serves to announce and make effective changes to > the list of parties to the PerlNomic Partnership (a public contract). > > The current list of parties is: >            Nickname                                    Ema

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2412 assigned to ehird

2009-03-14 Thread Ed Murphy
ehird wrote: > Murphy, missed this? I've got it, just haven't caught up on updating e-mails to the database yet. Maybe later tonight.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: The inevitable CfJs

2009-03-14 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Sat, 14 Mar 2009, Warrigal wrote: > On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 5:05 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: >> Not so good.  This means that if a power-1 rule says MAY X, and a power-2 >> rule says MAY NOT X, then the power-3 MMI would make the power-1 MAY >> take precedence over the power-2 MAY NOT. > > MMI prov