Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Votes

2009-03-27 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Fri, 27 Mar 2009, comex wrote: > Unfortunately, I'm not sure that I can unilaterally avoid this sort of > error in the future. If someone else can make that guarantee, let > them be Rulekeepor; otherwise, Goethe, there is always the chance of > an accidental, hard-to-catch difference between

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: Distribution of proposal 6167

2009-03-27 Thread Taral
On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 5:23 PM, Ed Murphy wrote: > Taral announcing "Of /course/ I (vote for / support) this!" in response > to something-or-other. You have a long memory: Date: Sun, 13 May 2007 00:02:17 -0500 From: Taral To: agora-busin...@agoranomic.org Subject: Re: BUS: Inhuman rights campa

Re: DIS: zenith.homelinux.org down?

2009-03-27 Thread Ed Murphy
ais523 wrote: > Murphy's website (including things like the CotC database) appears to be > down; I can't load from it locally, nor ping it from Normish. Can anyone > confirm this? If so, can Murphy fix it? Apparently my IP numbers got moved and ddclient hadn't yet caught up. I forced it so it sh

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Enigma] Results from last week

2009-03-27 Thread Ed Murphy
ais523 wrote: > On Fri, 2009-03-27 at 22:10 +, Alex Smith wrote: >> This is the Enigma results from last week's puzzles: 4x4, er ev hg is ni >> no, and Bits and Bytes. > > Because many contestants are likely to be interested, I'd like to > informally request Murphy to reveal eir solution to e

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Votes

2009-03-27 Thread Ed Murphy
ais523 wrote: > On Fri, 2009-03-27 at 14:55 -0400, Geoffrey Spear wrote: >> On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 2:51 PM, Sean Hunt wrote: >>> Also, perhaps we should allow the Assessor to end a voting period early >>> if there is a certain amount of positive votes (say, VI twice the AI and >>> at least half

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: Distribution of proposal 6167

2009-03-27 Thread Ed Murphy
ais523 wrote: > On Thu, 2009-03-26 at 13:01 -0700, Ed Murphy wrote: >> comex wrote: >> >>> On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 11:56 AM, The PerlNomic Partnership >>> wrote: NUM C I AI SUBMITTER TITLE 6167 D 1 3.0 comex Foo >>> I intend, without objection, to ratify the fo

DIS: Re: BUS: Votes

2009-03-27 Thread Ed Murphy
ais523 wrote: > The bug is in rule 754, which doesn't define > "announcement" anywhere in the published versions of the FLR or SLR for > months. Rule 478, last paragraph.

Re: DIS: RL overload

2009-03-27 Thread Sean Hunt
Aaron Goldfein wrote: > > > On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 12:38 PM, Taral > wrote: > > I'm sorry folks... I'm kinda overloaded IRL. Can someone pick up the > Registrar and Scorekeepor offices? I'd really appreciate it. > > -- > Taral mailto:tar...@gmail.com>>

Re: DIS: RL overload

2009-03-27 Thread Aaron Goldfein
On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 12:38 PM, Taral wrote: > I'm sorry folks... I'm kinda overloaded IRL. Can someone pick up the > Registrar and Scorekeepor offices? I'd really appreciate it. > > -- > Taral > "Please let me know if there's any further trouble I can give you." >-- Unknown > I initiate

Re: BUS: Re: DIS: RL overload

2009-03-27 Thread Taral
On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 1:35 PM, Ian Kelly wrote: > I nominate myself for Registrar. > I nominate myself for Scorekeepor. Thank you. -- Taral "Please let me know if there's any further trouble I can give you." -- Unknown

DIS: BUS: [Enigma] clarification

2009-03-27 Thread Alex Smith
Are we guaranteed never to get the same clue twice? The rules of Enigma don't rule it out; however, it's unlikely that I'd repeat a clue, as that would just make the contest less interesting and rewarding. -- ais523 Contestmaster, Enigma

DIS: Re: BUS: [Enigma] Results from last week

2009-03-27 Thread Alex Smith
On Fri, 2009-03-27 at 22:10 +, Alex Smith wrote: > This is the Enigma results from last week's puzzles: 4x4, er ev hg is ni > no, and Bits and Bytes. Because many contestants are likely to be interested, I'd like to informally request Murphy to reveal eir solution to er ev hg is ni no, and Bil

Re: BUS: Re: DIS: RL overload

2009-03-27 Thread Ian Kelly
On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 3:06 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > I nominate root for Grand Poobah ;). Oh sure, dump more responsibilities on the new guy. -root

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Votes

2009-03-27 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Fri, 27 Mar 2009, Alex Smith wrote: > On Fri, 2009-03-27 at 11:31 -0700, Kerim Aydin wrote: >> On Fri, 27 Mar 2009, Alex Smith wrote: >>> The bug is in rule 754, which doesn't define >>> "announcement" anywhere in the published versions of the FLR or SLR for >>> months. >> >> Actually, we've

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Votes

2009-03-27 Thread comex
On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 3:19 PM, Sean Hunt wrote: > soon as sufficient support is garnered. This takes precedence over rule > 1728, section b). That section only applies for actions to be performed without objections. > When a proposal is instantly adopted, it is removed from the Proposal > Pool

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Votes

2009-03-27 Thread Sean Hunt
Alex Smith wrote: > On Fri, 2009-03-27 at 14:55 -0400, Geoffrey Spear wrote: >> On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 2:51 PM, Sean Hunt wrote: >>> Also, perhaps we should allow the Assessor to end a voting period early >>> if there is a certain amount of positive votes (say, VI twice the AI and >>> at least ha

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Votes

2009-03-27 Thread Alex Smith
On Fri, 2009-03-27 at 14:55 -0400, Geoffrey Spear wrote: > On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 2:51 PM, Sean Hunt wrote: > > Also, perhaps we should allow the Assessor to end a voting period early > > if there is a certain amount of positive votes (say, VI twice the AI and > > at least half of all active play

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Votes

2009-03-27 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 2:51 PM, Sean Hunt wrote: > Also, perhaps we should allow the Assessor to end a voting period early > if there is a certain amount of positive votes (say, VI twice the AI and > at least half of all active players voting). Tweaks? (Allow arbitrary changes to the gamestate w

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Votes

2009-03-27 Thread Sean Hunt
Sean Hunt wrote: > I admit that I knew of this too. > > I retract any votes I submitted for proposal 6166 and vote AGAINST it. TtttPF. Also, perhaps we should allow the Assessor to end a voting period early if there is a certain amount of positive votes (say, VI twice the AI and at least half of

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Enigma] Moderately difficult puzzles

2009-03-27 Thread Taral
On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 2:02 PM, Ed Murphy wrote: > Allowing ais523 to set Reply-To: (his address) when sending out Enigma > puzzles, and not having the mail server overwrite it with Reply-To: > (a-d).  (Is this already possible?  I'll set this message's Reply-To > to my own address.) Looked into

DIS: Re: BUS: Votes

2009-03-27 Thread Sean Hunt
Alex Smith wrote: > On Fri, 2009-03-27 at 09:23 -0700, Kerim Aydin wrote: >> I vote FOR Proposal 6165 and AGAINST proposal 6166 (not because of lack of >> trust of comex-as-rulekeepor, but because I never thought ruleset >> ratification >> was a good idea to begin with...ratify everything else bu

DIS: RL overload

2009-03-27 Thread Taral
I'm sorry folks... I'm kinda overloaded IRL. Can someone pick up the Registrar and Scorekeepor offices? I'd really appreciate it. -- Taral "Please let me know if there's any further trouble I can give you." -- Unknown

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Votes

2009-03-27 Thread Alex Smith
On Fri, 2009-03-27 at 11:31 -0700, Kerim Aydin wrote: > On Fri, 27 Mar 2009, Alex Smith wrote: > > The bug is in rule 754, which doesn't define > > "announcement" anywhere in the published versions of the FLR or SLR for > > months. > > Actually, we've got a judicial precedent (I'll look up the nu

DIS: zenith.homelinux.org down?

2009-03-27 Thread Alex Smith
Murphy's website (including things like the CotC database) appears to be down; I can't load from it locally, nor ping it from Normish. Can anyone confirm this? If so, can Murphy fix it? -- ais523

DIS: Re: BUS: Votes

2009-03-27 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Fri, 27 Mar 2009, Alex Smith wrote: > The bug is in rule 754, which doesn't define > "announcement" anywhere in the published versions of the FLR or SLR for > months. Actually, we've got a judicial precedent (I'll look up the number later unless someone else does) that a common-language defin

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Votes

2009-03-27 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Fri, 27 Mar 2009, Alex Smith wrote: > B's trouble is that massive gamestate recalculation is kind-of common > there, and hard resets aren't nearly common enough. Recently, we > actually discovered that nothing at all had happened since the last hard > reset (due to various bugs), and we hard-re

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Votes

2009-03-27 Thread Alex Smith
On Fri, 2009-03-27 at 10:29 -0700, Kerim Aydin wrote: > I understand the tradeoff, I just prefer to ratify change events (e.g. > proposals) rather than the state for the ruleset in particular. Unlike > those who like hard-resets every time there's uncertainty (B? Or at > least my impression of B)

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Votes

2009-03-27 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Fri, 27 Mar 2009, Alex Smith wrote: > On Fri, 2009-03-27 at 09:23 -0700, Kerim Aydin wrote: >> I vote FOR Proposal 6165 and AGAINST proposal 6166 (not because of lack of >> trust of comex-as-rulekeepor, but because I never thought ruleset >> ratification >> was a good idea to begin with...rati

DIS: Re: BUS: Votes

2009-03-27 Thread Alex Smith
On Fri, 2009-03-27 at 09:23 -0700, Kerim Aydin wrote: > I vote FOR Proposal 6165 and AGAINST proposal 6166 (not because of lack of > trust of comex-as-rulekeepor, but because I never thought ruleset > ratification > was a good idea to begin with...ratify everything else but let the rules be > co

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: Distribution of proposal 6167

2009-03-27 Thread Alex Smith
On Thu, 2009-03-26 at 13:01 -0700, Ed Murphy wrote: > comex wrote: > > > On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 11:56 AM, The PerlNomic Partnership > > wrote: > >> NUM C I AI SUBMITTER TITLE > >> 6167 D 1 3.0 comex Foo > > > > I intend, without objection, to ratify the following docum

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: Distribution of proposal 6167

2009-03-27 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Fri, 27 Mar 2009, Alex Smith wrote: > On Thu, 2009-03-26 at 12:18 -0700, Kerim Aydin wrote: >> I firmly believe that the publication of a false fact is inherently >> misleading. If it is done purposefully, it is purposefully misleading. >> >> I do see your argument. What you claim is that you

DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: All Offices Are Important

2009-03-27 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Fri, 27 Mar 2009, Aaron Goldfein wrote: > Proposal: All Offices Are Important (AI = 2, II = 1) { > > [[Because every office contributes something to the Agoran community, every > office should be filled as soon as possible. Note that the only effective > change this proposal makes on the game s

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: Distribution of proposal 6167

2009-03-27 Thread Alex Smith
On Thu, 2009-03-26 at 12:18 -0700, Kerim Aydin wrote: > I firmly believe that the publication of a false fact is inherently > misleading. If it is done purposefully, it is purposefully misleading. > > I do see your argument. What you claim is that you published a document, > and that it's not y

DIS: Re: BUS: PNP Parties Change

2009-03-27 Thread comex
On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 11:35 PM, The PerlNomic Partnership wrote: > The current list of parties is: >            Nickname                                    Email >              Dvorak                 dvorak.herr...@gmail.com >    RainerWasserfuhr     rainerwasserfuhr+perlno...@gmail.com >      

DIS: Re: BUS: Mutations

2009-03-27 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 11:52 PM, Sean Hunt wrote: > Now, I have added all proposals I could find to the PNP's proposal pool > (including this one). However, I'm not sure if it is accurate, so if > someone could please corroborate this by counting the number of > Proposals to be distributed, that

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: Distribution of proposal 6167

2009-03-27 Thread Ed Murphy
Tiger wrote: > 2009/3/26 Ed Murphy : >> Rodlen wrote: >> >>> Oh right, and I had better hail Eris. >>> >>> Hail Eris. >>> >>> There. >> I yell CREAMPUFF. >> > I support. > > (Is this Mornington Nomic all of a sudden?) Fish! CREAMPUFF comes from B Nomic: http://lists.ellipsis.cx/archives/spoon-d