Re: DIS: BUS: Card trades

2009-09-09 Thread comex
On Sep 8, 2009, at 7:28 AM, ais523 callforjudgem...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: Because the banks are kind-of weird to understand right now, let's settle for some old-fashioned haggling. I'm willing to consider trading the following cards for something of roughly equal value: Distrib-u-matics Kill

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: CFJ

2009-09-09 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Wed, 9 Sep 2009, Pavitra wrote: The question then is: does the mathematical meaning (R754(3)) of random imply that the random choice is made platonically and invisibly, or does it leave that to other Agoran legal documents (R754(4)), arguably including former Rules and probably including

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: CFJ

2009-09-09 Thread ais523
On Wed, 2009-09-09 at 08:44 -0700, Kerim Aydin wrote: - If you take a legal/decision standpoint (where legally a decision must be made based on uncertain data - see particularly natural resource management for situations like this - a court CAN determine a likely outcome and make it

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: CFJ

2009-09-09 Thread comex
Sent from my iPhone On Sep 9, 2009, at 11:44 AM, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote: - If you take a Bayesian standpoint (with the process probabilities as your priors) you come to the conclusion that 1/Nth of each possible types of N cards were destroyed. Since this is IMPOSSIBLE

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2674 assigned to woggle

2009-09-09 Thread Charles Walker
On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 5:55 PM, Roger Hickspidge...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Sep 5, 2009 at 16:43, Charles Reiss woggl...@gmail.com wrote: On 9/5/09 8:09 AM, Ed Murphy wrote: Detail: http://zenith.homelinux.net/cotc/viewcase.php?cfj=2674 ==  Criminal Case 2674 (Interest Index = 2)

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2674 assigned to woggle

2009-09-09 Thread Pavitra
Roger Hicks wrote: On Sat, Sep 5, 2009 at 16:43, Charles Reiss woggl...@gmail.com wrote: On 9/5/09 8:09 AM, Ed Murphy wrote: Detail: http://zenith.homelinux.net/cotc/viewcase.php?cfj=2674 == �Criminal Case 2674 (Interest Index = 2) �=== � � BobTHJ violated Rule 2143,

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: CFJ

2009-09-09 Thread Pavitra
Kerim Aydin wrote: This favors the spirit and some precedents but very much ignores the language. Which of course would flagrantly violate R217s1, though as ais523 points out IMPOSSIBLE and/or ILLEGAL things do occasionally ratify for the sake of convenience. It would be nice not to rely on

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2674 assigned to woggle

2009-09-09 Thread Sean Hunt
Roger Hicks wrote: I appeal the sentence of this case. DISCHARGE would be more appropriate based upon my previous comments. BobTHJ You now have two appeals going. Yay. -coppro

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: CFJ

2009-09-09 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Wed, 9 Sep 2009, Pavitra wrote: Kerim Aydin wrote: - If you take a legal/decision standpoint (where legally a decision must be made based on uncertain data - see particularly natural resource management for situations like this - a court CAN determine a likely outcome and make it

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2674 assigned to woggle

2009-09-09 Thread Pavitra
Sean Hunt wrote: Roger Hicks wrote: I appeal the sentence of this case. DISCHARGE would be more appropriate based upon my previous comments. BobTHJ You now have two appeals going. Yay. -coppro No, the first one fizzled. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: CFJ

2009-09-09 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Wed, 9 Sep 2009, Kerim Aydin wrote: On Wed, 9 Sep 2009, Pavitra wrote: Kerim Aydin wrote: - If you take a legal/decision standpoint (where legally a decision must be made based on uncertain data - see particularly natural resource management for situations like this - a court CAN

DIS: Re: BUS: Cards

2009-09-09 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Sat, Sep 5, 2009 at 9:24 AM, Charles Walkercharles.w.wal...@googlemail.com wrote: I spend Distrib-u-matic to make the proposal No Vacancy v.2 Distributable. Fails; was already made Distributable on 1 Sept.

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2674 assigned to woggle

2009-09-09 Thread comex
Sent from my iPhone On Sep 9, 2009, at 12:55 PM, Roger Hicks pidge...@gmail.com wrote: I appeal this case. By custom Agora has permitted new officers a full ASAP period to fulfill outstanding obligations. You keep making that claim. I personally think that this custom doesn't apply

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2674 assigned to woggle

2009-09-09 Thread Roger Hicks
On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 12:49, comex com...@gmail.com wrote: You keep making that claim.  I personally think that this custom doesn't apply when the officer has most of a week (+ the election period) to prepare a report, but neither of us has evidence. If you give some, I think it would help

Re: DIS: BUS: Card trades

2009-09-09 Thread Elliott Hird
2009/9/9 comex com...@gmail.com: FWIW, you can deposit these and withdraw other assets from the IBA (has lots of cards at the moment).  See iba.qoid.us for an up-to-date report.  I'd appreciate suggestions on reducing the weird/confusing aspect.. 2009/9/8 ais523 callforjudgem...@yahoo.co.uk:

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2674 assigned to woggle

2009-09-09 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Wed, 9 Sep 2009, Roger Hicks wrote: On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 12:49, comex com...@gmail.com wrote: You keep making that claim.  I personally think that this custom doesn't apply when the officer has most of a week (+ the election period) to prepare a report, but neither of us has evidence. If

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2674 assigned to woggle

2009-09-09 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 3:35 PM, Kerim Aydinke...@u.washington.edu wrote: Here, there's a consensus is no dinging at less than 4 days, dinging after 7 days, but there's probably very few/no cases raised one way or the other in the 5-7 day range.  The question is, is this because we don't

Re: DIS: BUS: Card trades

2009-09-09 Thread comex
Sent from my iPhone On Sep 9, 2009, at 3:31 PM, Elliott Hird penguinoftheg...@googlemail.com wrote: 2009/9/9 comex com...@gmail.com: I'd appreciate suggestions on reducing the weird/confusing aspect..

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2674 assigned to woggle

2009-09-09 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Wed, 9 Sep 2009, Geoffrey Spear wrote: On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 3:35 PM, Kerim Aydinke...@u.washington.edu wrote: However, there were 2 cases (CFJ 2348, CFJ 2379) where the holder of a low-priority office was accused of failing to report during eir first month in the office; both resulted in

Re: DIS: BUS: Card trades

2009-09-09 Thread Elliott Hird
2009/9/9 comex comexcomexcomex Sent from my bananaphone On Sep 9, 2009, at 3:31 PM, Elliott Hird penguinoftheg...@googlemail.com wrote: fatal corruption error segfault 2012/12/21 comex com...@gmail.com: I'd appreciate suggestions on reducing the suggestions aspect.. (We are doing

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2674 assigned to woggle

2009-09-09 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Wed, 9 Sep 2009, Geoffrey Spear wrote: I could find no criminal CFJs against officers for late reports during their first week in the archive. By the way, with this low sample size, if there are NoVs that were closed without going to criminal trial (either contested or mea culpas) those

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: CFJ

2009-09-09 Thread Roger Hicks
On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 23:07, Pavitra celestialcognit...@gmail.com wrote: Kerim Aydin wrote: Rule 1079/4 (Power=1) Definition of Random I transfer a prop from myself to G. for digging up this very useful precedent. Fails. G. isn't registered. BobTHJ

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 6476-6494

2009-09-09 Thread ais523
On Wed, 2009-09-09 at 20:50 -0600, Sean Hunt wrote: Proposal 6481 (Democratic, AI=2.0, Interest=1) by Wooble FOR if the PNP includes the text comex, AGAINST otherwise. I'm not at all convinced that vote will resolve to anything but PRESENT. -- ais523

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 6476-6494

2009-09-09 Thread ais523
On Wed, 2009-09-09 at 22:00 -0500, Pavitra wrote: I submit the following proposal and make it Distributable: AI=2 II=0 MWoP Assumption Fix {{ Ratify the following document: {Proposal 6478 passed.} At power 2? -- ais523

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 6476-6494

2009-09-09 Thread Sean Hunt
Pavitra wrote: Sean Hunt wrote: Proposal 6478 (Democratic, AI=2.0, Interest=1) by Pavitra AGAINST. This completely devalues MWoP and makes no effort to destroy/replace it, and also doesn't deal with elections that cause a candidate to be elected, but don't have an outcome because no Decision

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2674 assigned to woggle

2009-09-09 Thread Sean Hunt
Pavitra wrote: Sean Hunt wrote: Roger Hicks wrote: I appeal the sentence of this case. DISCHARGE would be more appropriate based upon my previous comments. BobTHJ You now have two appeals going. Yay. -coppro No, the first one fizzled. R1504, last paragraph, second sentence Unless