Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Enemy] Threat

2010-08-26 Thread ais523
On Wed, 2010-08-25 at 20:19 -0400, Warrigal wrote: Evidence: I *did* reasonably believe that that message by Alex Smith was not sent by em, for the simple reason that (due to a technical glitch, I suppose) I had not received that message from Alex Smith. Is it unreasonable to assume, based on

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: Rights are important

2010-08-26 Thread ais523
On Wed, 2010-08-25 at 21:30 -0400, Warrigal wrote: On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 9:23 PM, Keba ag...@kebay.org wrote: Proposal Rights are important (AI=3.5, II=1, distributable via fee) {{{ Increase the power of Rule 101 The Rights of Agorans to 3.5. An AI of 3 is sufficient for this, as an

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Enemy] Threat

2010-08-26 Thread Keba
You know that the attempt to rename the City, omd's objection to this attempt, the CoE and the NoV were all sent to the discussion mailing list and have therefore no effect? -- Keba

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Enemy] Threat

2010-08-26 Thread ais523
On Thu, 2010-08-26 at 17:05 +0200, Keba wrote: You know that the attempt to rename the City, omd's objection to this attempt, the CoE and the NoV were all sent to the discussion mailing list and have therefore no effect? Gah, you're right as well. I wonder how we all missed that? -- ais523

DIS: Re: BUS: Another robot precedent

2010-08-26 Thread comexk
Sent from my iPhone On Aug 26, 2010, at 1:11 PM, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote: I submit that this is the first entity within Agora that fits any reasonable extent a common definition of a robot. Hey ehird, do you still have the source to Bayes?

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Another robot precedent

2010-08-26 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Thu, 26 Aug 2010, com...@gmail.com wrote: Sent from my iPhone On Aug 26, 2010, at 1:11 PM, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote: I submit that this is the first entity within Agora that fits any reasonable extent a common definition of a robot. Hey ehird, do you still have the

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Another robot precedent

2010-08-26 Thread ais523
On Thu, 2010-08-26 at 14:09 -0400, com...@gmail.com wrote: Sent from my iPhone On Aug 26, 2010, at 1:11 PM, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote: I submit that this is the first entity within Agora that fits any reasonable extent a common definition of a robot. Hey ehird, do you

DIS: ...and so is my wife

2010-08-26 Thread Kerim Aydin
The more I think of it, the more surprised I am that I can't remember anyone trying this scam. We've had plenty of attempted hardcodings of players into rules/proposals (e.g. G. can amend this rule) or comex is hereby awarded X) but I can't remember anyone trying to change their name to

DIS: *test*

2010-08-26 Thread Keba
I assume my email client has made a mistake, this message should just be ignored. -- Keba

DIS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 6811-6821

2010-08-26 Thread Keba
Geoffrey Spear wrote: Proposal 6821 (Purple, AI=2.1, Interest=1) by G. (coauth: coppro/The Robot) Relisting [...] Amend Rule 2255 to read: A rule with a power equal to or greater than this rule may associate a Position Name with a specific position on the List of

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 6811-6821

2010-08-26 Thread Sean Hunt
On 08/26/2010 04:08 PM, Keba wrote: Well, what's about a scam like I change my name to Crown Prince (or any other Courtier)? I don't know whether the voting limits are increased by re-naming, but at least the special duties and powers should apply, if coppro's (or the Robot's?) scam worked.

DIS: Re: BUS: Judgement, CFJ 2835

2010-08-26 Thread ais523
On Wed, 2010-08-25 at 07:49 +, Alex Smith wrote: I set CFJ 2835's II to 1, then judge it FALSE. The rule is unambiguous (although quite possibly broken), and the caller's arguments are correct. I award myself a capacitor for the farad I gained from the above-quoted judgement. -- ais523

DIS: Re: BUS: Another robot precedent

2010-08-26 Thread Sean Hunt
On 08/26/2010 11:11 AM, Kerim Aydin wrote: I submit the following 3-line public document, TheRobot. 10 PRINT I AM THE ROBOT. I DO THE ROBOT DANCE. 20 REM G. MAY MODIFY THIS DOCUMENT BY ANNOUNCEMENT 30 GOTO 10 I submit that this is the first entity within Agora that fits any reasonable extent

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Another robot precedent

2010-08-26 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Thu, 26 Aug 2010, Sean Hunt wrote: On 08/26/2010 11:11 AM, Kerim Aydin wrote: I submit the following 3-line public document, TheRobot. 10 PRINT I AM THE ROBOT. I DO THE ROBOT DANCE. 20 REM G. MAY MODIFY THIS DOCUMENT BY ANNOUNCEMENT 30 GOTO 10 I submit that this is the first

Re: DIS: ...and so is my wife

2010-08-26 Thread Ed Murphy
G. wrote: The more I think of it, the more surprised I am that I can't remember anyone trying this scam. We've had plenty of attempted hardcodings of players into rules/proposals (e.g. G. can amend this rule) or comex is hereby awarded X) but I can't remember anyone trying to change

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Another robot precedent

2010-08-26 Thread Sean Hunt
On 08/26/2010 05:06 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: On Thu, 26 Aug 2010, Sean Hunt wrote: On 08/26/2010 11:11 AM, Kerim Aydin wrote: I submit the following 3-line public document, TheRobot. 10 PRINT I AM THE ROBOT. I DO THE ROBOT DANCE. 20 REM G. MAY MODIFY THIS DOCUMENT BY ANNOUNCEMENT 30 GOTO 10

DIS: Re: BUS: Fun with CFJ timing

2010-08-26 Thread ais523
On Thu, 2010-08-26 at 16:16 -0700, Kerim Aydin wrote: Gratuitous: The datestamps showing up in my mailbox are: Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2010 17:48:22 -0500 (CDT) Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2010 17:49:45 -0500 (CDT) which are past, and match the time received by agoranomic.org in timezone as well as time.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Fun with CFJ timing

2010-08-26 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Fri, 27 Aug 2010, ais523 wrote: On Thu, 2010-08-26 at 16:16 -0700, Kerim Aydin wrote: Gratuitous: The datestamps showing up in my mailbox are: Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2010 17:48:22 -0500 (CDT) Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2010 17:49:45 -0500 (CDT) which are past, and match the time received by

Re: DIS: ...and so is my wife

2010-08-26 Thread Michael Norrish
On 27/08/10 04:35, Kerim Aydin wrote: The more I think of it, the more surprised I am that I can't remember anyone trying this scam. We've had plenty of attempted hardcodings of players into rules/proposals (e.g. G. can amend this rule) or comex is hereby awarded X) but I can't remember anyone

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Another robot precedent

2010-08-26 Thread ais523
On Thu, 2010-08-26 at 16:34 -0700, Kerim Aydin wrote: The document declared its own name in its content, so that is its name to itself. I readily admit that this does not *absolutely guarantee* that it has that name in Agoran Legal Practice. However, we have accepted almost every

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Fun with CFJ timing

2010-08-26 Thread omd
On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 7:38 PM, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote: I'm not sure how the received by agoranomic date can be before you sent it, unless someone has their clock wrong.  That agoranomic date is consistent with the time my server received it a few mins later and the time I

Re: DIS: ...and so is my wife

2010-08-26 Thread omd
On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 7:38 PM, Michael Norrish michael.norr...@nicta.com.au wrote: I think I remember something similar.  I certainly wrote a judgement that defeated such an attempt.  I used the Alice Through the Looking Glass argument that being called something, and having something as a

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Fun with CFJ timing

2010-08-26 Thread ais523
On Thu, 2010-08-26 at 19:41 -0400, omd wrote: On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 7:38 PM, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote: I'm not sure how the received by agoranomic date can be before you sent it, unless someone has their clock wrong. That agoranomic date is consistent with the time my

Re: BUS: Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 6811-6821

2010-08-26 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Fri, 27 Aug 2010, ais523 wrote: On Thu, 2010-08-26 at 23:32 +0100, ais523 wrote: NoV: coppro violated the power-1 rule 2215 by stating that e changed eir nickname, when in common usage people are still calling em coppro rather than The Robot and thus The Robot is not eir nickname.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Fun with CFJ timing

2010-08-26 Thread Taral
On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 4:49 PM, ais523 callforjudgem...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: You can start sending the email, but stop halfway through, and later on, finish sending the email (and you don't need to have specified all the content of the email by this point). For some reason, the timestamp given

Re: DIS: ...and so is my wife

2010-08-26 Thread Ed Murphy
omd wrote: On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 7:38 PM, Michael Norrish michael.norr...@nicta.com.au wrote: I think I remember something similar. Â I certainly wrote a judgement that defeated such an attempt. Â I used the Alice Through the Looking Glass argument that being called something, and having

Re: DIS: ...and so is my wife

2010-08-26 Thread omd
On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 12:07 AM, Ed Murphy emurph...@socal.rr.com wrote: I should look this up, but note that we have in the past accepted dictatorship rules of the form [player name] CAN do whatever by announcement without any special explicitness, and currently have a (non-scam) rule that

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Not a cronjob

2010-08-26 Thread omd
On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 9:27 PM, Warrigal ihope12...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 8:34 PM, Sean Hunt scsh...@csclub.uwaterloo.ca wrote: I change my nickname to 'The Robot'. -coppro I publish a Notice of Violation accusing coppro of violating rule 2170 (power 3) by changing eir