Re: DIS: Proto: Sets v0.9

2020-05-20 Thread Jason Cobb via agora-discussion
On 5/20/20 2:10 AM, nch via agora-discussion wrote: > I'm tired and I'm sure this has obvious mistakes but I believe in getting > things out there for review as soon as they're presentable, so here's the > Sets > proposal. Please tear it apart. Trigon I listed you as a co-author because > the

Re: DIS: Proto: Sets v0.9

2020-05-20 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via agora-discussion
On Wed, May 20, 2020 at 9:47 AM Jason Cobb via agora-discussion wrote: > > On 5/20/20 2:10 AM, nch via agora-discussion wrote: > > Amend rule 2350 "Proposals" by replacing: > > > > Creating a proposal adds it to the Proposal Pool. > > > > with: > > > > A player CAN add a proposal to th

Re: DIS: Proto: Sets v0.9

2020-05-20 Thread nch via agora-discussion
On Wednesday, May 20, 2020 8:58:19 AM CDT Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via agora-discussion wrote: > On Wed, May 20, 2020 at 9:47 AM Jason Cobb via agora-discussion > > wrote: > > On 5/20/20 2:10 AM, nch via agora-discussion wrote: > > > Amend rule 2350 "Proposals" by replacing: > > > C

Re: DIS: Proto: Sets v0.9

2020-05-20 Thread nch via agora-discussion
On Wednesday, May 20, 2020 8:47:26 AM CDT Jason Cobb via agora-discussion wrote: > On 5/20/20 2:10 AM, nch via agora-discussion wrote: > > I'm tired and I'm sure this has obvious mistakes but I believe in getting > > things out there for review as soon as they're presentable, so here's the > > Set

Re: DIS: Proto: Sets v0.9

2020-05-20 Thread nch via agora-discussion
On Wednesday, May 20, 2020 8:47:26 AM CDT Jason Cobb via agora-discussion wrote: > > A player CAN, by announcement, pay a 'set' of X Cards of the same type > > to create in eir possession Y corresponding Products. The value of X > > > determines the value of Y in the following ways: > Pedantry: w

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] No More 'By Announcement'

2020-05-20 Thread Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion
On 5/19/2020 2:56 PM, nch via agora-discussion wrote: > On Tuesday, May 19, 2020 2:48:20 PM CDT you wrote: >> I don't like this idea. The history of this provision is that I gave a CFJ >> judgement essentially establishing something like this. Everyone >> (especially G.) thought it was a terrible

DIS: Re: BUS: Passing the bar

2020-05-20 Thread Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion
On Wed, May 20, 2020 at 9:06 AM grok wrote: > I would like to be added to the judging pool > > -grok The judge of the excellent CFJ 3514 is welcomed back to the bench.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] No More 'By Announcement'

2020-05-20 Thread James Cook via agora-discussion
> > That could probably be fixed, but it does seem to change the way at > > least I was thinking of dependent actions. My understanding was: > > dependent actions are methods; R2595 says how the method works; > > R2595's implementation happens to defer to the "by announcement" > > method. > > > > A

Re: DIS: [Proto] Budgets

2020-05-20 Thread James Cook via agora-discussion
On Wed, 20 May 2020 at 00:33, Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion wrote: > On 5/19/2020 5:08 PM, Aris Merchant via agora-discussion wrote: > > My biggest concern here is that the budgets will get set wrong, we'll > > run out of money for something important half way through the quarter, > > and then

DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] Mooting moots

2020-05-20 Thread James Cook via agora-discussion
On Wed, 20 May 2020 at 01:26, Kerim Aydin via agora-business wrote: > I submit the following proposal, "Mooting moots", co-author R. Lee, AI-1.7: > > > > Amend Rule 911 (Motions and Moots) by deleting all the text from "If a

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 8377-8387 CoE

2020-05-20 Thread James Cook via agora-discussion
On Wed, 20 May 2020 at 02:50, Aris Merchant via agora-business wrote: > On Tue, May 19, 2020 at 7:45 PM James Cook via agora-discussion > wrote: > > > > > I thought there was another error, but can't seem to find it. > > > > > > -Aris > > > > 8382 has the wrong title in the full text section. > >

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] Mooting moots

2020-05-20 Thread Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion
On Wed, May 20, 2020 at 3:07 PM James Cook via agora-discussion wrote: > Why the third requirement? What if someone notices a problem with a > judgement 10 days after it's assigned, and there was no motion to > reconsider? The idea is a fixed progression: first you remand via a motion to give the

Re: DIS: Proto: Sets v0.9

2020-05-20 Thread James Cook via agora-discussion
Trying to get a sense of how the numbers would work out: As far as I can tell, cards are created as follows: * When the game is enacted or someone wins it. (1 Card of each type per player) * When a player gets a welcome package. (1 Card of each type) * Each officer can create 1 card per month. If

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] Mooting moots

2020-05-20 Thread James Cook via agora-discussion
> > I had been under the impression that the current case of CFJ 3831 is > > sort of like that, since I don't remember people disagreeing with the > > judgement until somewhat later. > > Yes the main issue was there wasn't a peep of complaint for the first > 2 weeks (at least that I saw). There sh

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] Mooting moots

2020-05-20 Thread Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion
On Wed, May 20, 2020 at 3:45 PM James Cook wrote: > > > I had been under the impression that the current case of CFJ 3831 is > > > sort of like that, since I don't remember people disagreeing with the > > > judgement until somewhat later. > > > > Yes the main issue was there wasn't a peep of compla

DIS: [Reportor] Last Week in Agora

2020-05-20 Thread James Cook via agora-discussion
Archived at https://github.com/AgoraNomic/Reportor/tree/master/weekly_summaries Report for the week of 2020-05-11..17: # Summary Last Week in Agora is back to report on an Agora abuzz with activity. This week, Cuddle Beam appeals to Agorans to keep better historical records. Fortunately, much

Re: DIS: Proto: Sets v0.9

2020-05-20 Thread nch via agora-discussion
On Wednesday, May 20, 2020 5:37:55 PM CDT James Cook via agora-discussion wrote: > Trying to get a sense of how the numbers would work out: > > As far as I can tell, cards are created as follows: > * When the game is enacted or someone wins it. (1 Card of each type per > player) * When a player g

Re: DIS: Proto: Sets

2020-05-20 Thread Alex Smith via agora-discussion
On Thursday, 14 May 2020, 14:48:20 GMT, Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion wrote: > On 5/14/2020 12:14 AM, Reuben Staley via agora-discussion wrote: > > On 5/14/20 1:06 AM, Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion wrote: > >> > >> On 5/14/2020 12:00 AM, Reuben Staley wrote: > >>> On 5/13/20 5:54 PM, nch

Re: DIS: coherent vision for Agora Nomic as an independent policing/judiciary force

2020-05-20 Thread Alex Smith via agora-discussion
On Thursday, 14 May 2020, 19:28:38 GMT, James Cook via agora-discussion wrote: > On Mon, 11 May 2020 at 20:07, David Nicol via agora-discussion > wrote: > > (1) judiciary thing: craft some immutables that allow contracts to specify > > Agora Nomic Arbitration Services as their venue of dispute

DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] Sets v1.0

2020-05-20 Thread Jason Cobb via agora-discussion
On 5/20/20 9:05 PM, nch via agora-business wrote: > [Below is sets v1.0. If you read 0.9 and just want to know what's different, > look here: https://github.com/nichdel/AgoranProposal/compare/ > 60f39a824ff590d38877fbce92c673e94a282a60..d27528f29df072934f71764e593d03eea8411954] > > I submit the fo

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] Sets v1.0

2020-05-20 Thread nch via agora-discussion
On Wednesday, May 20, 2020 8:30:24 PM CDT Jason Cobb via agora-discussion wrote: > The important bit is "neither its text nor any of the aforementioned > attributes can be changed". This means the attempt to change the > coauthors is INEFFECTIVE under R2240. > > -- > Jason Cobb Thanks for the qu

DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] No More 'By Announcement'

2020-05-20 Thread Alex Smith via agora-discussion
On Tuesday, 19 May 2020, 16:55:10 GMT, nch via agora-business wrote: > By my math this eliminates 108 words from the rules, and more importantly > makes announcement default so it doesn't need to be included in new rules (and > therefore can't accidentally be left out). I think this needs some c

Re: DIS: Proto: Sets v0.9

2020-05-20 Thread Alex Smith via agora-discussion
On Wednesday, 20 May 2020, 13:47:34 GMT, Jason Cobb via agora-discussion wrote: > On 5/20/20 2:10 AM, nch via agora-discussion wrote: >> Amend rule 2350 "Proposals" by replacing: >> >> Creating a proposal adds it to the Proposal Pool. >> >> with: >> >> A player CAN add a proposal to the Proposal

DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] Sets v1.0

2020-05-20 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
On Wed, May 20, 2020 at 7:05 PM nch via agora-business wrote: > > On Wednesday, May 20, 2020 8:05:26 PM CDT nch via agora-business wrote: > > Title: Sets v1.0 > > Author: nch > > Co-Authors: Trigon, Falsifian, PSS, Jason Cobb > > AI: 3 > > I withdraw Sets v1.0 and submit the following proposal. >