DIS: Re: (@Arbitor) BUS: Re: OFF: [Arbitor] CFJ 4026 Assigned to ais523

2023-05-12 Thread Yachay Wayllukuq via agora-discussion
Actually, Arbitor willing, you could pass this problem to me if you'd like. Because atm, I don't fear the SHOULDN'Ts and whatnot and I'll barge through crimes in order to give a Judgement that I feel is right. On Saturday, May 13, 2023, ais523 via agora-business < agora-busin...@agoranomic.org>

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Arbitor] CFJ 4028 Assigned to G., Judged FALSE

2023-05-12 Thread Janet Cobb via agora-discussion
On 5/12/23 18:15, juan via agora-discussion wrote: > Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion [2023-05-12 09:32]: >> On Fri, May 12, 2023 at 8:59 AM Yachay Wayllukuq via agora-discussion >> wrote: >> So a question to you: if an investigator, with good and honest intent >> doesn't believe that a crime has

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Arbitor] CFJ 4028 Assigned to G., Judged FALSE

2023-05-12 Thread juan via agora-discussion
Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion [2023-05-12 09:32]: > On Fri, May 12, 2023 at 8:59 AM Yachay Wayllukuq via agora-discussion > wrote: > So a question to you: if an investigator, with good and honest intent > doesn't believe that a crime has been committed, and the 1-week > Favoritism deadline for

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Arbitor] CFJ 4028 Assigned to G., Judged FALSE

2023-05-12 Thread Yachay Wayllukuq via agora-discussion
Ah, alright On Friday, May 12, 2023, Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > Oh sure - no worries if that’s the only thing - I was giving my logic so it > didn’t come across as arbitrary, but didn’t mean to imply it was anything > but my best (conjectural)

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Arbitor] CFJ 4028 Assigned to G., Judged FALSE

2023-05-12 Thread Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion
Oh sure - no worries if that’s the only thing - I was giving my logic so it didn’t come across as arbitrary, but didn’t mean to imply it was anything but my best (conjectural) guess at this time. On Fri, May 12, 2023 at 9:51 AM Yachay Wayllukuq via agora-discussion <

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Arbitor] CFJ 4028 Assigned to G., Judged FALSE

2023-05-12 Thread Yachay Wayllukuq via agora-discussion
Easy, you could state that you're basing yourself off mere conjecture and that's the best you can do for now rather than using using language that states your position as a matter of fact. On Friday, May 12, 2023, Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > On

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Arbitor] CFJ 4028 Assigned to G., Judged FALSE

2023-05-12 Thread Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion
On Fri, May 12, 2023 at 8:59 AM Yachay Wayllukuq via agora-discussion wrote: > > I'd like to mention that I don't feel like you're exercising the "highest > reasonably possible standard of care" if your basis for if the crime has > been committed or not is that it doesn't match the arcana, unless

DIS: Re: BUS: on invisbilitating

2023-05-12 Thread ais523 via agora-discussion
On Fri, 2023-05-12 at 06:04 -0700, Kerim Aydin via agora-business wrote: > > Further it is clear from the text itself that it was intended > that this definition be "hidden" and continue to provide definitional > guidance (that's unique afaik when thinking of other old gamestate): It can't

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Arbitor] CFJ 4028 Assigned to G., Judged FALSE

2023-05-12 Thread Yachay Wayllukuq via agora-discussion
I'd like to mention that I don't feel like you're exercising the "highest reasonably possible standard of care" if your basis for if the crime has been committed or not is that it doesn't match the arcana, unless you prove first that the arcana has survived and still has legal effect to this day.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] now you don't see it

2023-05-12 Thread Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion
On Fri, May 12, 2023 at 8:03 AM Yachay Wayllukuq via agora-discussion wrote: > Having such an unwieldy amount of arcana puts a lot of power in being able > to give out 'hedonistic' Judgements; ones that are heavily based on "well > this is best for the game"/"this makes it playable"/etc,

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] now you don't see it

2023-05-12 Thread Yachay Wayllukuq via agora-discussion
Having such an unwieldy amount of arcana puts a lot of power in being able to give out 'hedonistic' Judgements; ones that are heavily based on "well this is best for the game"/"this makes it playable"/etc, especially ones that have to be that way because of ambiguity. Because we don't know for

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Arbitor] CFJ 4028 Assigned to G., Judged FALSE

2023-05-12 Thread nix via agora-discussion
On 5/12/23 08:24, Yachay Wayllukuq via agora-business wrote: Sure, I note the infraction of Invisibilitating performed by 4st for jaywalking without a license, compounded by having dangerous levels of swagger. I CfJ: "There was an infraction noted in this message." AFAICT Invisibilitating, if

DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] now you don't see it

2023-05-12 Thread nix via agora-discussion
On 5/12/23 06:59, Yachay Wayllukuq via agora-business wrote: - Why would we make a special case just for Invisibilitating specifically? What about other ancient things that may affect how other*current* things of the game work too? There might be. There's nothing that prevents us from looking

DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] now you don't see it

2023-05-12 Thread Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion
On Fri, May 12, 2023 at 5:00 AM Yachay Wayllukuq via agora-business wrote: > > - It takes agency away from newer players and puts more into older ones > which are more familiar with this obscure ancient arcana which has now > supposedly been made relevant, which feels terrible. > Just on this

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] Expedited Proposals

2023-05-12 Thread secretsnail9 via agora-discussion
On Fri, May 12, 2023 at 1:31 AM Janet Cobb via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > On 5/12/23 01:37, secretsnail9 via agora-discussion wrote: > > And about "voting strength games", any player could reactivate voting > > strength on the proposal if they would vote against

DIS: Re: OFF: [Assessor] Resolution of Proposals 8960-8964

2023-05-12 Thread Yachay Wayllukuq via agora-discussion
What is "Invisibilitating"? I feel like I'm being left out of something here. On Friday, May 12, 2023, Janet Cobb via agora-official < agora-offic...@agoranomic.org> wrote: > RESOLUTION OF PROPOSALS 8960-8964 > = > > IDTitle Result >

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] Expedited Proposals

2023-05-12 Thread Janet Cobb via agora-discussion
On 5/12/23 01:37, secretsnail9 via agora-discussion wrote: > And about "voting strength games", any player could reactivate voting > strength on the proposal if they would vote against it. Voting strength > only matters when there's disagreement anyways, and if there is any, it'll > get turned