DIS: Re: BUS: A hypothetical:

2011-01-04 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Sun, Dec 19, 2010 at 11:17 PM, omd c.ome...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Dec 19, 2010 at 11:06 PM, Sean Hunt scsh...@csclub.uwaterloo.ca wrote: I CFJ (II=3) Proposal (AI=1.5, Distributable via fee): Amend Rule 2225 (Interest Index of Judicial Cases) by replacing which CAN be set by its

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 6944-6947

2011-01-04 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 4:19 PM, Roger Hicks pidge...@gmail.com wrote: I vote FOR each of these proposals a number of times equal to my voting limit (which is zero I assume? Haven't finished reading the current ruleset yet) It should be 2, unless you've somehow managed to move way up the List.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: new forum

2010-12-31 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Fri, Dec 31, 2010 at 5:37 AM, com...@gmail.com wrote: The ability to submit 10,000 CFJs is not guaranteed by R101; Well, that's the interpretation of several players. Too bad no interpretation of Agoran law is valid when it contradicts R101, assertions to the contrary notwithstanding.

DIS: Fwd: Request to mailing list agora-official rejected

2010-12-31 Thread Geoffrey Spear
I submit the following proposal: {{ Trim the Ruleset to less than 100K. }} -- Forwarded message -- From: agora-official-ad...@agoranomic.org Date: Fri, Dec 31, 2010 at 4:18 AM Subject: Request to mailing list agora-official rejected To: geoffsp...@gmail.com Your request to the

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: fage

2010-12-27 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Mon, Dec 27, 2010 at 2:28 PM, omd c.ome...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Dec 27, 2010 at 7:08 PM, Sean Hunt scsh...@csclub.uwaterloo.ca wrote: Note you can't follow through on this until four days after the Holiday. Urgh.  I deregister.  (This has a rather interesting interaction with the end

Re: DIS: BUS: Protojudgements

2010-12-25 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Sat, Dec 25, 2010 at 2:02 PM, Sean Hunt scsh...@csclub.uwaterloo.ca wrote: I would have supported omd's appeal, but as e's already submitted eir Cantus Cygneus, it's too late for that. I would have supported too, and it's never too late when you can change the rule regarding writs of fage by

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: New Day

2010-12-21 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 9:57 PM, Elliott Hird penguinoftheg...@googlemail.com wrote: On 20 December 2010 06:55, Taral tar...@gmail.com wrote: For the record: This is (and has always been) my standard practice. If you get a message about your mail being held for moderation, you can expect that

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2932 assigned to G.

2010-12-20 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 1:55 PM, omd c.ome...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 1:32 PM, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote: Arguments: When we implemented switches the second time (Proposal 5111), several properties - Activity, Publicity, Posture, Citizenship - were assumed, as

Re: DIS: proto-contest: Aroga

2010-12-17 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 12:40 AM, Aaron Goldfein aarongoldf...@gmail.com wrote: It sounds like a bad idea to make ##nomic a public forum. Considering IRC has no subject lines, the [Ar] requirement makes this a non-issue.

Re: BUS: Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2918 assigned to omd

2010-12-14 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 12:56 AM, omd c.ome...@gmail.com wrote: precedent that gets overturned, I beg for a legislative fix.  Having the possibility of ignorance of the law as a criterion for NOT GUILTY basically makes criminal cases unprosecutable.) Your honor, I wasn't aware the ruleset

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Assessor] Voting results for Proposals 6908 - 6913

2010-12-14 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 8:31 AM, ais523 callforjudgem...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: *6913  D1  1.0  omd         Dictatorship Can I claim Cassandra now? At least wait until e does something horrible with eir dictatorship.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Judgement, CFJ 2909

2010-12-12 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Sun, Dec 12, 2010 at 1:04 PM, Ed Murphy emurph...@socal.rr.com wrote: As I understand it, the judgement amounts to ratification is ineffective because it attempts something impossible. Because no one thought to make the ratification rule of sufficient power to make such ridiculous strict

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: I deregister.

2010-12-11 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 5:37 PM, ais523 callforjudgem...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: On Fri, 2010-12-10 at 17:32 -0500, omd wrote: On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 5:25 PM, ais523 callforjudgem...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: Subject: Re: BUS: I deregister. CFJ: ais523 deregistered. (intentionally nttpf) The

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Promotor Election and Nominations

2010-12-09 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Thu, Dec 9, 2010 at 1:31 PM, com...@gmail.com wrote: (Somewhat related: I don't like the kind of scam that just consists of pedantically misinterpreting rules, but such scams are often laughed out of the *Agoran* courts.  But I distinguish between that kind and the kind that merely

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [IADoP] Organization Chart

2010-12-07 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 5:03 PM, omd c.ome...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 10:07 AM, Geoffrey Spear geoffsp...@gmail.com wrote: OFFICES AND HOLDERS Herald         Wooble     29 Nov 10   12 Sep 10   2  Assumed IADoP          Wooble     29 Nov 10   13 Jul 10   2  Assumed Registrar

DIS: Re: OFF: [Herald] Weekly Report

2010-12-06 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 9:57 AM, Geoffrey Spear geoffsp...@gmail.com wrote:    6 5R     ehird               3   Puisine Justice  Backup Justiciar Note: the spelling of Puisne is corrected in the draft; I'm not CoEing myself because it's probably a synonym and not self-ratifying anyway.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Registrar] Census

2010-12-04 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Fri, Dec 3, 2010 at 9:11 PM, omd c.ome...@gmail.com wrote: Oh, that makes more sense.  However, I disagree with you: the current judge of CFJ 2908 is part of the gamestate; it can be ratified to be you irrespective of whether Murphy actually succeeded in assigning it to you when e purported

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Promotor Election and Nominations

2010-12-04 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Sat, Dec 4, 2010 at 10:22 AM, Elliott Hird penguinoftheg...@googlemail.com wrote: On 3 December 2010 22:17, omd c.ome...@gmail.com wrote: I want a secret currency. There already is one, you just don't know about it. I revoke one Chao from ehird, as allowed by the Agoran Illuminati

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Promotor Election and Nominations

2010-12-03 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Fri, Dec 3, 2010 at 3:33 PM, ais523 callforjudgem...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: It would help if there was a meaningful reward for being an officer, but at the moment there isn't. Reduce free ergs?

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: ninja'd

2010-11-29 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 3:10 PM, omd c.ome...@gmail.com wrote: Gratuitous: The report includes Wooble possibly deregisters in the Recent events section, although I don't think this affects anything. Indeed, only the list of players is self-ratifying; the rest of the report is not.

Re: BUS: Re: DIS: Unofficial list of succession

2010-11-27 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Thu, Nov 25, 2010 at 3:57 PM, omd c.ome...@gmail.com wrote: This is a notice of papal succession: Ienpw III is (as of this notice) a pope. This is a notice of papal succession: Keba is (as of this notice) a pope. Inactive players aren't Cardinals.

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Possibly Registrar] Census

2010-11-23 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 8:10 AM, Elliott Hird penguinoftheg...@googlemail.com wrote: On 23 November 2010 10:55, Jonathan Rouillard jonathan.rouill...@gmail.com wrote: How can I qualify as a Watcher? I can't find the requirements in the rules, instead finding that Watchers aren't defined there.

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Possibly Registrar] Census

2010-11-23 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 9:05 AM, ais523 callforjudgem...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: It's a shame we no longer have the rule that let us nominate inattentive players for offices and elect them in. With Pariah around, it would lead to quite a quick way to deregister them. We can install them by

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Registration

2010-11-17 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 9:55 AM, ais523 callforjudgem...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: Gratuitous: Arguably, the entire point of the contract was an intent to someday be a player, with other members of the contract being able to choose /when/. Rule 869 contains the phrase at that time.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2899 assigned to Wooble

2010-11-15 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 2:00 PM, Elliott Hird penguinoftheg...@googlemail.com wrote: On 15 November 2010 13:52, Geoffrey Spear geoffsp...@gmail.com wrote: FALSE.  Hillary Rodham Clinton does not unambiguously identify a player, even in the unlikely event e is secretly playing the game

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Registrar] Census

2010-11-15 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 6:58 PM, Sean Hunt scsh...@csclub.uwaterloo.ca wrote: I CFJ {If the Registrar's report should, by the rules, have included that Tiger became Inactive on 2 May, 2010, then Wooble would be able to resort to the defense of reasonable error in a criminal CFJ over that rules

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Herald] Weekly Report

2010-11-12 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 10:26 AM, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote: It would also promote the first rebel (omd) such that Yally would have promoted emself to Grand Vizier for a cost of 5 ergs, and eir rubbberstamps/vetos would have failed.  rgh.  -G. I don't feel *too* sorry for the

DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: Nobody Wants to Do It!

2010-11-12 Thread Geoffrey Spear
scshunt submitted an identical proposal yesterday. On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 3:44 PM, Aaron Goldfein aarongoldf...@gmail.com wrote: Proposal: Nobody Wants to Do It! (AI =2, II = 1) If, at the time of the adoption of this proposal, the office of Referee is vacant, then: Repeal Rule 2303

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 6877-6894

2010-11-11 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 2:21 PM, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote: On Thu, 11 Nov 2010, Aaron Goldfein wrote: Because I'm the Crown Prince... I pay a fee to move the player immediately above me on the list of succession down one place on the list of succession. This fee should be 0.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Ienpew III

2010-11-10 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 8:01 PM, omd c.ome...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 7:38 PM, Aaron Goldfein aarongoldf...@gmail.com wrote: I intend, without objection, to make Ienpew III inactive. I object. nttpf.

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Herald] Rebellion resolution

2010-11-08 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 7:47 PM, Elliott Hird penguinoftheg...@googlemail.com wrote: er, what about me? You acknowledged yourself that you didn't quote the message, and message headers are generally ineffective, so I assumed it was uncontroversial that you weren't a rebel. But at least the dice

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Fearmongor] changes of the week

2010-10-25 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 5:28 PM, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote: On Mon, 25 Oct 2010, Kerim Aydin wrote: I submit the following proposals, Auctions, AI-1, II-0: H. Promotor, do you consider the stray typo s after proposal to make this fail?  -G. I think it was reasonably

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: (no subject)

2010-10-21 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 11:52 PM, omd c.ome...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 10:52 PM, Zac Sipes zac0...@gmail.com wrote: zac0...@gmail.com Do you want to register as a player?  If so, you should say so-- sorry, I think this is a bit too unclear. What, no CFJ? :)

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2882 assigned to Tanner L. Swett

2010-10-20 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 12:18 AM, Warrigal ihope12...@gmail.com wrote: Thus, ais523 didn't successfully deputize. FWIW, e couldn't deputize anyway because the office wasn't vacant when the obligation went into effect.

Re: BUS: Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2890 assigned to coppro

2010-10-18 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 12:42 PM, omd c.ome...@gmail.com wrote: I intend to appeal this with two support.  Making a proposal undistributable modifies information for which some player is required to be a recordkeepor, so R2125 forbids me from doing it except as allowed by the rules.

DIS: Re: BUS: Still, nobody cares

2010-10-10 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Sun, Oct 10, 2010 at 7:30 AM, ais523 callforjudgem...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: I resign Referee. I will bring the Referee reports up to date (unless the Teams rule is repealed first, and it probably should be), but only once someone brings the PSM reports up to date so I have something to work

DIS: Re: BUS: CfJ regarding my ability to register

2010-10-08 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Fri, Oct 8, 2010 at 2:20 AM, John Smith spamba...@yahoo.com wrote: With the desire to get this out of the way ahead of time, I initiate an inquiry CfJ on the following statement: Bucky CAN register by announcement Arguments:The rule regarding registration does not explicitly state that it

DIS: Re: BUS: Snorkelling only possible on Fridays, but a languishing endeavour mocks; news at 13.

2010-10-07 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 9:43 AM, Elliott Hird penguinoftheg...@googlemail.com wrote: On 7 October 2010 14:35, Geoffrey Spear geoffsp...@gmail.com wrote: I publish an NoV alleging that ehird violated the Power-1 Rule 2215 by making a statement e couldn't have reasonably believed to be true

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: fugitives

2010-10-07 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 10:23 AM, ais523 callforjudgem...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: Hmm, how did Quazie end up on the list? E was on coppro's most recent Herald report, but not any of the few before. (Did e end up with a Rest from a relatively recent NoV? I can't find any criminal cases against em in

DIS: Re: BUS: Hmm...

2010-10-07 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 3:15 PM, Sean Hunt scsh...@csclub.uwaterloo.ca wrote: For each elected office not held by Murphy, I resign that office. Fails; you didn't give Notice.

DIS: Re: BUS: I'm totally sorry

2010-10-04 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 9:33 AM, Keba ag...@kebay.org wrote: I resign all my offices and go on hold. (What happens with the speaker office now?) Nothing; Tiger became Speaker last week.

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2876 assigned to Wooble

2010-10-04 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 2:36 PM, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote: Addendum:  what Wooble does in eir argument is replace substantially in the actual text of R101 with any.  This is a large difference.  -G. I'd say Infinity - 2 weeks is substantial.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Oops?

2010-09-30 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 9:14 PM, Ed Murphy emurph...@socal.rr.com wrote: Herald's, but yeah, if the list self-ratified (per Rule 2314) at any point then the first paragraph of Rule 2315 is no longer relevant. The IADoP's list of officers is self-ratifying, regardless of whether the List itself

DIS: Re: BUS: Caring about it [attn Sgeo, Yally, Tiger, Murphy]

2010-09-28 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 5:22 PM, Sgeo sgeos...@gmail.com wrote: I object, although I feel somewhat uncomfortable taking it on faith like this. I haven't been paying much attention It doesn't matter anyway; there were already 2 objections from the team to which I was trying to move a player.

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Pool Report, 24 September 2010

2010-09-27 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Sun, Sep 26, 2010 at 10:55 PM, Warrigal ihope12...@gmail.com wrote: malice. Besides, the proposal is undistributable (to my knowledge) and stupid, and thus my failure to mention it is essentially inconsequential. I initiate an election for Promotor. I note that I've had a particularly

DIS: Re: BUS: Hey, I can do /this/ with ergs

2010-09-22 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 10:13 AM, Warrigal ihope12...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 7:50 PM, Alex Smith ais...@bham.ac.uk wrote: I pay a fee to initiate an election for Pariah. If possible, I nominate myself. Fails; you were already an accepted nominee by default.

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2867 assigned to Wooble

2010-09-22 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 5:19 PM, ais523 callforjudgem...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: Further gratuitous arguments: This is a case of if X, then ... where X is impossible being trivially true. It's different from if the rules were somehow modified such that X could come about, then most likely ...,

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: No Voting Limit Timing Scams

2010-09-22 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 7:04 PM, omd c.ome...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 5:52 PM, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote: Locking it at the end of the voting period as now is similar to locking it at the beginning of the week, except that if someone pulls a last-minute spend,

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: silence!

2010-09-21 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 9:27 AM, Ed Murphy emurph...@socal.rr.com wrote: According to the Assessor DB, I gained a Rest on September 1 at 12:41:16 UTC.  Did that one get destroyed?  Otherwise, the DB matches the above. I don't think you actually gained a Rest at that time. That's when you were

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposals 6834-41 are probably failing quorum due to succession weirdness

2010-09-17 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 9:53 AM, Keba ag...@kebay.org wrote: An invasion consisting of one player? (Or miss I someone?) Did I do anything wrong to deal me out? One player? Blognomic's Riddler took direct action to make you the Speaker; this conspiracy touches the highest levels of both BN and

Re: DIS: Response

2010-09-17 Thread Geoffrey Spear
2010/9/17 Sean Hunt scsh...@csclub.uwaterloo.ca: Proto: invade BN. This would involve remembering to visit their website.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Herald NoV

2010-09-17 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 4:09 PM, omd c.ome...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 3:16 PM, Sean Hunt scsh...@csclub.uwaterloo.ca wrote: On 09/17/2010 01:05 PM, com...@gmail.com wrote: Gratuitous: The interpretation suggested by the caller is absurd. Would you prefer the interpretation

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Do we need monkeys?

2010-09-16 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 10:46 AM, Ed Murphy emurph...@socal.rr.com wrote: Wooble wrote: I submit the following Fragment: {{ οἵ πίθηκοι ἀλλο-πρόσαλλοι ἔστοι }} For the curious, Google Translate interprets this as Greek for Monkeys are another; prosalloi estoi. I get other apes-prosalloi

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Judgements

2010-09-10 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 12:28 PM, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote: On Fri, 10 Sep 2010, Ed Murphy wrote: 2855:  TRUE 2856:  TRUE A substantive aspect of a rule pertains to /how/ a rule governs, not /what/ a rule governs.  With that argument eliminated, a low-powered proposal is

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Herald] Ribbon Report

2010-09-10 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 1:35 PM, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote: I announce my intent to ratify the current ownership of Ribbons as follows, Without Objection: Unnecessary; by R2166, reports on asset holdings are self-ratifying.

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: Rebellion Die roll

2010-09-09 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 11:41 PM, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote: Keba (becomes/remains Speaker; not on list) Worst. Rebellion. Ever.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: CFJ: popes

2010-09-09 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 9:59 AM, Jonatan Kilhamn jonatan.kilh...@gmail.com wrote: Gratuitous arguments (even though I would very much like to be a pope): The fact that the 5th position in our major arcana is called the Crown Prince goes against the idea that it should represent the pope. In no

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: CFJ: popes

2010-09-09 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 11:34 AM, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote: I hereby certify that I bear a physical copy of this card, and did so at the time and prior to the time of the proposal being adopted: http://www.principiadiscordia.com/downloads/pope_card.pdf part of whose text, placed

DIS: Re: BUS: Darn.

2010-09-07 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 7:18 AM, Keba ag...@kebay.org wrote: Thu 02 Sep 19:56 G.       DU  In case of emergency Sun 05 Sep 14:07 G.       D   Coup Bug Fix Sun 05 Sep 14:11 G.       D   Reward Urgency where DU means distributing an Urgent Proposal. At the time this purportedly-urgent proposal

DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: Perpetuum mobile

2010-09-07 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Mon, Sep 6, 2010 at 2:57 PM, Keba ag...@kebay.org wrote: Keba wrote: I intend without two objections, to flip the Distributability of my proposal entitled Perpetuum mobile to distributable. Received no objections, I do so. [Damn it, I should have done so yesterday...] Fails; there is no

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: Perpetuum mobile

2010-09-07 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 9:17 AM, Keba ag...@kebay.org wrote: Am Dienstag, den 07.09.2010, 09:00 -0400 schrieb Geoffrey Spear: On Mon, Sep 6, 2010 at 2:57 PM, Keba ag...@kebay.org wrote: Keba wrote: I intend without two objections, to flip the Distributability of my proposal entitled

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 6834-6841

2010-09-07 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 10:40 AM, Keba ag...@kebay.org wrote: Geoffrey Spear wrote: I resign as Promotor. I transfer a prop from Wooble (because problems are not solved by resigning) to Andon (because e will not be listed in the ATC's report separately anymore then). Fails; Andon

DIS: Re: BUS: Capa

2010-09-07 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 2:49 PM, com...@gmail.com wrote: Proposal: Capa (AI=2, Distributable via fee) In the first sentence of Rule 2289 (Capacitors), remove the word fixed. Get rid of yellow ribbons in the same proposal?

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: White Renaissance

2010-09-07 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 6:23 PM, Warrigal ihope12...@gmail.com wrote: While this does result in White Ribbons not being needed for a Renaissance win (as White is no longer mentioned in the rule), it does not result in White Ribbons ceasing to exist, as they are never destroyed and are still

DIS: Re: BUS: Judgements

2010-09-03 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 6:35 AM, ais523 callforjudgem...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: First, we have to deal with a potential bug in the proposal itself; it attempts to create a rule, but does not specify its power. However, it seems reasonable to assume that the rule is created at power 1; although

DIS: Re: BUS: ARGH

2010-09-03 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 11:18 AM, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote: It strikes me that when an officer ends up unresigned and inactive, the office gets stuck.  Is this right currently?  Should we amend deputisation to allow for inactive offices, not just vacant?  (and are there other

Re: DIS: The FSCN

2010-09-03 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 12:52 PM, Warrigal ihope12...@gmail.com wrote: Well, one of our stated purposes is to allow players to accumulate power. How do you propose that this be accomplished? You're probably going to need to propose watts as a currency. Or perhaps microwatts, considering the

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Sysadmin] Website Voting

2010-09-03 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 12:25 PM, ais523 callforjudgem...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: On Fri, 2010-09-03 at 12:21 -0400, Warrigal wrote: On Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 11:22 AM, Keba ag...@kebay.org wrote: I endorse Wooble (just for the endorse-chain, I don't care about the website very much) Sure. I

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: ARGH

2010-09-03 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 2:36 PM, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote: Ah yes.  I don't promise to get caught up for a few days, but I assume the office of Herald (and will try).  I think Herald work is a little behind, if there are any pressing tasks someone wants to bring to my attention,

Re: DIS: The FSCN

2010-09-02 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 10:05 PM, Warrigal ihope12...@gmail.com wrote: Well, then, you're in. I hereby inceive the FSCN, composed of me, Sgeo, Tiger, and Keba. We should probably draft a charter at some point, but that's not necessary just yet. On behalf of the Agoran Illuminati, I transfer 5

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: No messages all day creeps me out

2010-09-01 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 11:35 PM, omd c.ome...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 11:10 PM, Geoffrey Spear geoffsp...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 10:05 PM,  com...@gmail.com wrote: For each active player, I intend, with support and with notice, to make em inactive. CoE

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Fearmongor] Change is Nigh!

2010-08-27 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 4:00 PM, Jonatan Kilhamn jonatan.kilh...@gmail.com wrote: And, from the rulest of 5 years ago today: Proposal: Church and State (AI=1, II=0) {{{ Enact a new rule entitled Church and State reading      A cardinal is an active, ready player who is neither the current  

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Doing a Warrigal

2010-08-27 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 7:26 PM, ais523 callforjudgem...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: On Fri, 2010-08-27 at 16:22 -0700, Ed Murphy wrote: ais523 wrote: On Wed, 2010-08-25 at 22:22 -0700, Ed Murphy emurph...@social.rr.com wrote: (snip) CoE: Murphy's email address is not emurph...@social.rr.com,

Re: DIS: PM protosal

2010-08-25 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 7:55 PM, Keba ag...@kebay.org wrote: I am going to propose something like this (but this is only a Protosal!) If anyone intents to vote against such a Proposal because e does not like a certain part of it, please let me know. This proposal could be split, if needed. I

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: Distribution of Proposal 6796

2010-08-24 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 12:37 AM, Sean Hunt scsh...@csclub.uwaterloo.ca wrote: CoE: the submitter was The Robot. Nicknames are informal, and we can refer to you in any way that unambiguously identifies you. (Which The Robot probably doesn't do.)

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Not a cronjob

2010-08-24 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 5:44 PM, Sean Hunt scsh...@csclub.uwaterloo.ca wrote: When Distributed Proposal 6808 is resolved and ADOPTED, s/When/If/

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 6790-6810

2010-08-17 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 9:46 AM, Keba ag...@kebay.org wrote: Sean Hunt wrote: 6805 G 1 1.0 Keba                Props should be important! This decision doesn't exist, but ENDORSE the Captain just in case Why does this decision not exist? ais523 had payed a fee to make it distributable?

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 6790-6810

2010-08-17 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 7:25 AM, ais523 callforjudgem...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: Didn't coppro make my Pariah proposal Distributable (thus requiring it to be in a distribution this week)? Unless I'm missing a message, it was only made distributable at the start of this week, along with everything

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 6790-6810

2010-08-17 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 11:58 AM, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote: I change my chamber to Purple. I assume this is close enough to changing eir Title that it's effective?

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 6790-6810

2010-08-17 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 1:10 PM, Geoffrey Spear geoffsp...@gmail.com wrote: I assume this is close enough to changing eir Title that it's effective? Err, nevermind.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Distribution

2010-08-17 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 3:39 PM, Aaron Goldfein aarongoldf...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 19:25, Sean Hunt ride...@gmail.com wrote: I pay fees to make every Undistributable proposal in the Proposal Pool distributable, then I withdraw The Robot and submit and identical proposal and

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 6790-6810

2010-08-16 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 9:31 PM, Keba ag...@kebay.org wrote: Proposal 6796 should not be in this batch, as coppro has withdrawn it. This proposal was re-submitted in the exact form in which it was distributed; the distribution was successful but ILLEGAL.

Re: DIS: 2830

2010-08-16 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 4:40 PM, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote: Followup: One important thing to consider is the difference between: I do X.  It may not work. which disclaims the ability to X but not the attempt, versus: I may nor may not do X which disclaims the

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: That guy was fun

2010-08-13 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 2:51 AM, Sean Hunt ride...@gmail.com wrote: Because they are supposed to be an automatic part of the game. In particular, the only reason someone would make an II=0 proposal undistributable is to delay it a week, which violates the idea of a once-a-week offering of

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Victory conditions should sound similary

2010-08-13 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 1:07 PM, Keba ag...@kebay.org wrote: First, I don‘t assume there are players who think an erg income is more important than winning. It could be, if a Teams win was getting close and the player with 30 Props could win both ways.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: *Wakes up after a multi-month nap*

2010-08-13 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 2:34 PM, Warrigal ihope12...@gmail.com wrote: This. I'm treating this as effective if no one CFJs it.

DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: Why is there a full stop?

2010-08-12 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 7:52 AM, Keba ag...@kebay.org wrote: Proposal: Why is there a full stop? (AI = 2, II = 0, distributable) Amend Rule 2124 (Agoran Satisfaction) by replacing this text:        A person CANNOT support or object to an announcement of intent        before the intent is

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: Why is there a full stop?

2010-08-12 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 9:23 AM, ais523 callforjudgem...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: I'm also not convinced that just putting distributable in as a switch value counts as flipping the switch to distributable by announcement (possible for an II-0 proposal), especially when a similar format has been used

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Assessor] Voting results for Proposals 6763 - 6765

2010-08-09 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 12:05 PM, Taral tar...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 7:55 AM, Geoffrey Spear geoffsp...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 10:38 PM, Sean Hunt ride...@gmail.com wrote: H. Distributor Taral, would you care to open the Submission Period? According

Re: DIS: Trying to put together a SC report

2010-08-04 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 4:55 AM, Jonatan Kilhamn jonatan.kilh...@gmail.com wrote: Second: the Threat Points are based on the number of active players at the start of the journey. ehird has been made inactive since that start, so we now have one less player. When e comes back, I take it eir new

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Assessor] Voting results for Proposals 6763 - 6765

2010-08-04 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 10:38 PM, Sean Hunt ride...@gmail.com wrote: H. Distributor Taral, would you care to open the Submission Period? According to the subscriber list, e has message delivery disabled. E also hasn't been an active player for 51 weeks, which is why I voted against this

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Assessor] Voting results for Proposals 6751 - 6762

2010-08-03 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 9:04 PM, comex com...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 8:46 PM, Ed Murphy emurph...@socal.rr.com wrote: Proposal 6761 (Purple, AI=2.0, Interest=None) by coppro Admitted.  It's listed correctly at the top, this part was just copy+pasted from the Promotor's

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Herald] Asset reports

2010-08-03 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 5:11 PM, Sean Hunt ride...@gmail.com wrote: CoE: On or around 23 February, I awarded myself a Violet ribbon. Admitted Surely the non-existence of that ribbon has self-ratified by now.

DIS: Re: OFF: [Assessor] Voting results for Proposals 6751 - 6762

2010-08-02 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Sun, Aug 1, 2010 at 11:54 PM, Ed Murphy emurph...@socal.rr.com wrote: *6759  OP1  1.0  coppro      Ill-conceived Rule 1698 may make this change not occur; we now have all decisions Ordinary by default, with no defined voting limits on ordinary decisions and no way to make decisions

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Assessor] Voting results for Proposals 6751 - 6762

2010-08-02 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 12:13 PM, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote: Actually, I take this back.  What I told everyone was that the proposal in question is AI-1 and every rule in question was power-2.  So the proposal causes no changes whatsoever to occur, but not for the reason that

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Inactivity

2010-08-02 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 2:52 PM, Aaron Goldfein aarongoldf...@gmail.com wrote: Or, since everyone was under the impression (including Sgeo) that Sgeo was inactive, you could just leave him off the list of players and let it self-ratify. Considering it was pointed out to me that he was not, in

DIS: Re: BUS: PSM CFJ

2010-08-02 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 3:17 PM, Aaron Goldfein aarongoldf...@gmail.com wrote: I CFJ on the following sentence, II = 1. A player awarding emself a capacitor as defined by Rule 2289, counts as an erg transaction as defined by Rule 2282. It's kind of irrelevant, since you need to report on

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 6763-6765

2010-07-26 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 6:07 PM, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote: I don't think it's common enough to make a significant difference, and it's rather unusual IMO that proposals in the Proposal Pool have to be referred to by title when just about every other tracked body of text has an

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 6763-6765

2010-07-26 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 7:00 PM, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote: On Mon, 26 Jul 2010, Geoffrey Spear wrote: In creating my proposal archive, I did notice that Zefram used a pool number, distinct from the distributed proposal ID.  I don't know if this was just for eir own

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [IADoP] Organization Chart

2010-07-25 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 4:42 PM, ais523 callforjudgem...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: On Sun, 2010-07-25 at 16:39 -0400, Wooble wrote: From: System Administrator geoffsp...@gmail.com Subject: OFF: [IADoP] Organization Chart Err, what? That's what happens when you leave a shell logged in as root for

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