Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Spell check (@Rulekeepor)

2024-11-03 Thread Janet Cobb via agora-discussion
On 11/3/24 17:10, Mischief via agora-discussion wrote: > On 11/3/24 4:50 PM, Edward Murphy via agora-business wrote: > >> I intend, without objection, to clean Rule 2695 (The Veblen) by >> replacing "Abusrdor," with "Absurdor,". > P9172 should have already fixed this > > https://www.mail-archive.co

DIS: Re: OFF: [Assessor] Special Resolution of Proposal 9184

2024-10-13 Thread Janet Cobb via agora-discussion
On 10/13/24 17:15, Janet Cobb via agora-official wrote: > RESOLUTION OF PROPOSALS 9184 > > > IDTitle Result > --- > 9184 Ratification fix ADOPTED The replied-to resolution purports to resolve the referendum on P9184 and e

Re: DIS: Two protos

2024-09-22 Thread Janet Cobb via agora-discussion
On 9/22/24 21:16, Janet Cobb via agora-discussion wrote: > To what end? Is it really that much more burdensome to look up the last > resolution and calculate 2/3 of the voters than to look at a weekly report? Oops, rereading this, it came off much more aggressively than I meant it to. I

Re: DIS: Two protos

2024-09-22 Thread Janet Cobb via agora-discussion
On 9/22/24 16:15, Edward Murphy via agora-discussion wrote: > [I had these sitting around from an old RtRW but never got around to > fleshing them out.] > > Proto-Proposal: Track quorum > (AI = 3) > > Amend Rule 879 (Quorum) to read: > >Each Agoran decision has a quorum, a number set when

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: (@ADoP) Speaking of the Prime Minister...

2024-09-22 Thread Janet Cobb via agora-discussion
On 9/22/24 19:05, Mischief via agora-discussion wrote: > On 9/22/24 6:50 PM, Janet Cobb via agora-business wrote: >> On 9/22/24 17:27, secretsnail9 via agora-business wrote: >>> I deputize as prime minister to appoint myself as speaker. >> >> I temporarily deputize as Prime Minister to appoint snai

Re: DIS: Proto: Crystal Improvements

2024-09-17 Thread Janet Cobb via agora-discussion
On 9/17/24 20:46, 4st nomic via agora-discussion wrote: > { > Title: Crystal Improvements? > Adoption Index: 1.0 > Author: 4st > Co-authors: Mischief, Janet > > [This is intended to simplify crystals for me, reduce the disincentives, > and increase the speed of crystallization, whilst still encoura

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Propositions 9182-9183

2024-09-17 Thread Janet Cobb via agora-discussion
On 9/17/24 16:48, secretsnail9 via agora-discussion wrote: > On Tue, Sep 17, 2024 at 3:23 PM Janet Cobb via agora-business < > agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote: > >>> 9183~ snail 1.0 Creation Crystals >> AGAINST. I continue to not like crystals. >> >> > Do you have any sug

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Assessor] Resolution of Proposals 9168-9178 (@Spendor)

2024-09-15 Thread Janet Cobb via agora-discussion
On 9/15/24 16:38, Mischief via agora-discussion wrote: > Agora had the other 7 stones. Agora can't own spendies, though, so the > Lost and Found Department ends up with those. It only grants Spendies to *players* who own stones, so neither Agora nor L&FD get anything. -- Janet Cobb Assessor,

DIS: Re: OFF: [Herald] The Scroll of Agora (corrected)

2024-09-09 Thread Janet Cobb via agora-discussion
On 9/9/24 15:07, 4st nomic via agora-official wrote: > Masonry: Falsifian, Murphy, R. Lee, ais523 (x2), Murphy, Janet > Musicianship: ais523, omd, Tiger, Wooble, Zefram, snail CoE: snail's win should be listed under Masonry. -- Janet Cobb Assessor, Rulekeepor

Re: DIS: Re: (Proposal, @Promotor) BUS: A New Economy

2024-09-07 Thread Janet Cobb via agora-discussion
On 9/8/24 00:38, ais523 via agora-discussion wrote: > On Sun, 2024-09-08 at 00:32 -0400, Janet Cobb via agora-discussion wrote: >> On 9/7/24 21:47, ais523 via agora-business wrote: >>> Create a new power 2 rule, "Megaphones": >>> {{{ >>>   Megap

DIS: Re: (Proposal, @Promotor) BUS: A New Economy

2024-09-07 Thread Janet Cobb via agora-discussion
On 9/7/24 21:47, ais523 via agora-business wrote: > Create a new power 2 rule, "Megaphones": > {{{ > Megaphones are fungible assets. The Assessor is the recordkeepor > of Megaphones. The creation, destruction and transfer of > Megaphones is secured. > > Each player's voting

DIS: Re: (@Assessor) BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Propositions 9168-9178

2024-09-07 Thread Janet Cobb via agora-discussion
On 9/7/24 20:18, ais523 via agora-business wrote: >> 9171*   Kate, Murphy, Janet,4st 3.0   Rationalizing Recordkeepors >> v1.2 > AGAINST, broken – this requires all players to produce a weekly report > about their own hats (because the rule saying that they need not do so > is insufficiently powerf

Re: DIS: Re: Proto: Frank Voting

2024-09-07 Thread Janet Cobb via agora-discussion
On 9/7/24 13:15, Mischief via agora-discussion wrote: > Create a rule titled "Jockeying for Status" with power 2 reading: > >At all times a Power Grab is in exactly one of the following >categories: pending, fulfilled, terminated. This should be a secured untracked switch. >

Re: DIS: Proto: Chits

2024-09-03 Thread Janet Cobb via agora-discussion
On 9/2/24 18:19, Kiako via agora-discussion wrote: > With the end of stones nigh, I was doing some brainstorming for a > possible new system to introduce (though I know there's value in > allowing no systems to be present for a bit.) > > The following system is similar to stones, but simplified,

Re: DIS: Proto: Frank Voting

2024-09-03 Thread Janet Cobb via agora-discussion
On 9/3/24 17:40, Mischief via agora-discussion wrote: > On 9/3/24 3:03 PM, Kiako via agora-discussion wrote: >> On 9/3/24 7:28 AM, Mischief via agora-discussion wrote: >>> however, if a Power Grab specifies zero Stamps this fee is >>> automatically considered paid. >> Do fee-based actions not alre

DIS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Propositions 9168-9178

2024-09-02 Thread Janet Cobb via agora-discussion
On 9/1/24 19:00, secretsnail9 via agora-official wrote: > Amend rule 2528 (Voting Methods) by replacing "thereof." with > "thereof)." and inserting a paragraph break immediately after the > replaced string. The replaced string is no longer in the rule, so what does it mean to insert a paragraph b

DIS: Re: OFF: [Rulekeepor] Short Logical Ruleset - 1 Sep 2024

2024-09-01 Thread Janet Cobb via agora-discussion
On 9/1/24 02:58, Janet Cobb via agora-official wrote: > THE SHORT LOGICAL RULESET So... is this sufficient under the new reporting standard? This isn't labeling the report as the "Rulekeepor's weekly report". Same question goes for the FLR/ACORN. -- Janet Cobb Assessor, Rulekeepor

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] Crystal liquidation

2024-08-29 Thread Janet Cobb via agora-discussion
On 8/29/24 03:49, Oliver Nguyen via agora-business wrote: > I submit the following proposal: > > {{{ > > Title: Crystal liquidation > Adoption index: 1.0 > Author: oliver.n > Co-author(s): 4st > > Amend Rule 2685 "Crystals" by inserting the following text after the end of > the rule: > > { > Once

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Sure, fine, whatever [ATTN: Herald]

2024-08-28 Thread Janet Cobb via agora-discussion
On 8/28/24 12:27, Lily Long via agora-discussion wrote: > I object to this, and all future motions to declare Apathy in which I am > not specified. So, unfortunately this was sent to agora-discussion, so it doesn't do anything. Additionally, even if it was sent to agora-business, you can't object

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Sure, fine, whatever [ATTN: Herald]

2024-08-27 Thread Janet Cobb via agora-discussion
On Tue, Aug 27, 2024 at 11:22 AM Oliver Nguyen via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > I think e intended to create a new intent to declare Apathy, not resolve > the previous one, which you objected to. E likely did, but e didn't write it as an intent. On 8/27/24 11:23,

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Propositions 9159-9167

2024-08-24 Thread Janet Cobb via agora-discussion
On 8/23/24 23:32, Aris via agora-business wrote: > I am genuinely sorry I'm changing my votes so much. I voted before I had > solid opinions on everything and have been updating them as I develop my > own thoughts. I usually try to wait a bit, but then I end up not voting at > all. You don't need

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Propositions 9159-9167

2024-08-20 Thread Janet Cobb via agora-discussion
On 8/20/24 13:40, juan via agora-business wrote: > 9162: At the flip of a coin, FOR if heads, AGAINST if tails. > 9163: At the flip of a coin, FOR if heads, AGAINST if tails. > 9164: At the flip of a coin, FOR if heads, AGAINST if tails. These are indeterminate and will resolve to PRESENT. -- J

DIS: [proto] "CAN publish"

2024-08-17 Thread Janet Cobb via agora-discussion
Proposal 9154 has just re-introduced one of my pet peeves into the ruleset: the phrase "CAN publish". It is unclear what this actually means, and it appears to be attempting to redefine "publish", which is already defined in Rule 478. This potentially even presents R2125 concerns, though I doubt a

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Propositions 9148-9152

2024-07-29 Thread Janet Cobb via agora-discussion
On 7/29/24 16:55, Mischief via agora-business wrote: >> 9150~ Janet 1.0 *sigh* > AGAINST due to... > >> The Veblen is a unique indestructible fixed asset tracked by the >> Abusrdor > > > I suspect that's too much to clean via R2221 so we'd need another > proposal

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [MOTION OF NO CONFIDENCE] also maybe an election?

2024-07-28 Thread Janet Cobb via agora-discussion
On 7/28/24 20:04, Edward Murphy via agora-discussion wrote: > Janet wrote: > >> On 7/24/24 19:14, secretsnail9 via agora-business wrote: >>> I intend, with Agoran Consent, to cause the office of Prime Minister to >>> become vacant. >> I support and do so. > Ineffective, snail already did. > That i

Re: [CFJ] Re: DIS: Re: BUS: (@ADoP, @Tailor) Bad Prime Minister! BAD!

2024-07-28 Thread Janet Cobb via agora-discussion
On 7/28/24 19:53, Edward Murphy via agora-discussion wrote: > ais523 wrote: > >> On Sun, 2024-07-28 at 16:25 -0700, Edward Murphy via agora-discussion wrote: >>> Gratuitous: >>> >>>    * Jaff has been Speaker since April. >>> >>>    * On or about June 4, ais523 won (Paradox, Zen, High Score). >>>

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: (@ADoP, @Tailor) Bad Prime Minister! BAD!

2024-07-24 Thread Janet Cobb via agora-discussion
On 7/24/24 00:36, 4st nomic via agora-discussion wrote: > So, "an action ordinarily reserved for an office-holder as if e held the > office" > is duty. Ah, sorry, I meant *list item* 1. -- Janet Cobb Assessor, Rulekeepor, S​tonemason

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: (@ADoP, @Tailor) Bad Prime Minister! BAD!

2024-07-23 Thread Janet Cobb via agora-discussion
On 7/24/24 00:13, 4st nomic wrote: > Sure, but duty is not the term used in the deputisation rule. What I'm calling the "duty" is the requirement to perform the action referred to by paragraph 1 of R2160. -- Janet Cobb Assessor, Rulekeepor, S​tonemason

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: (@ADoP, @Tailor) Bad Prime Minister! BAD!

2024-07-23 Thread Janet Cobb via agora-discussion
On 7/24/24 00:08, 4st nomic via agora-discussion wrote: > I'm confused. What do you mean? > > 2) It would be POSSIBLE for the deputy to perform the action, > other than by deputisation, if e held the office. > You said it was not possible to appoint snail to Speaker. > >5) A time

DIS: Re: BUS: (@ADoP, @Tailor) Bad Prime Minister! BAD!

2024-07-23 Thread Janet Cobb via agora-discussion
On 7/23/24 23:17, 4st nomic via agora-business wrote: > On Tue, Jul 23, 2024 at 8:09 PM Janet Cobb via agora-business < > agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote: > >> On Jul 23, 2024 10:46 PM, 4st nomic via agora-business >> wrote: >> >> The rules require the Prime Minister to appoint a speaker

DIS: Test two (from Thunderbird)

2024-07-23 Thread Janet Cobb via agora-discussion
Sorry, testing email setup. -- Janet Cobb Assessor, Rulekeepor, S​tonemason

DIS: Test

2024-07-23 Thread Janet Cobb via agora-discussion

DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: Pragmatic quarters

2024-07-14 Thread Janet Cobb via agora-discussion
On 7/14/24 16:24, Edward Murphy via agora-business wrote: > Proposal: Pragmatic quarters > (AI = 2, co-author = Mischief) > > Amend Rule 2555 (Blots) by replacing this text: > >At the beginning of each quarter, half (rounded down) of each >fugitive's blots are destroyed. > > with th

DIS: Re: OFF: [Rulekeepor] Notes on Application of Proposals 9134-9141

2024-07-13 Thread Janet Cobb via agora-discussion
On 7/13/24 17:28, Janet Cobb via agora-official wrote: > Proposal 9136 reads, in part: > >> Amend Rule 2691 ("Sortition Procedure") by, as a single amendment, >> replacing the pargraph >> { >> At the beginning of each quarter, the ADoP CAN by announcement, and >> SHALL in a timely manner, initiate

DIS: Re: BUS: Oops

2024-07-13 Thread Janet Cobb via agora-discussion
On 7/13/24 22:09, Matt Smyth via agora-business wrote: > I object. I think this fails, as it isn't clear which intent (or both) is being objected to. Also, can I ask why? -- Janet Cobb Assessor, Rulekeepor, S​tonemason

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Rulekeepor] Notes on Application of Proposals 9134-9141

2024-07-13 Thread Janet Cobb via agora-discussion
On 7/13/24 20:57, 4st nomic via agora-discussion wrote: > For the purposes of the geologist, has the rule been amended with no > changes, or no amendment made at all? I read this as the whole thing failing (so no amendment was performed). However, neither has to be recorded in the history under C

DIS: Re: BUS: (@Notary, @Spendor, @Collector) Stamp trade

2024-07-12 Thread Janet Cobb via agora-discussion
On 7/12/24 17:09, Mischief via agora-business wrote: > Proto: ("No Indestructible Promises" AI=2.2) > > [This allows the owner of a promise to destroy it and explicitly defines > "revoke" as a synonym for destroy > > Also, is there any reason for a creator to take eir own promise but not > destro

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: Potential Further Absurdity (@Notary)

2024-07-08 Thread Janet Cobb via agora-discussion
On 7/8/24 16:46, Mischief via agora-business wrote,: > On 7/8/24 9:01 AM, juan via agora-discussion wrote: > >> Please increase the complexity of the office to 1, if there is ever a >> redraft. Otherwise, I'll petition the ADoP later, so its ok. > I didn't include it in the proposal because complex

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Collector] Philately Lately - 2024-07-01

2024-07-06 Thread Janet Cobb via agora-discussion
On 7/6/24 06:55, Mischief via agora-discussion wrote: > On 7/6/24 12:28 AM, Janet Cobb via agora-discussion wrote: >> On 7/1/24 18:48, Mischief via agora-official wrote: >>> I deputise as Collector to publish the following report. >> >> I don't think you need t

DIS: Re: BUS: (@stonemason) Rock Grabby attempt 2

2024-07-06 Thread Janet Cobb via agora-discussion
On 7/6/24 12:02, Agora amdw42 via agora-business wrote: > I reach for the minty stone > > Should the above stone be not reachable I reach for the radiance stone > > Should the above stone be not reachable I reach for the hot potato stone > > This is intended to reach for the stones in the order of

DIS: Re: OFF: [Collector] Philately Lately - 2024-07-01

2024-07-05 Thread Janet Cobb via agora-discussion
On 7/1/24 18:48, Mischief via agora-official wrote: > I deputise as Collector to publish the following report. I don't think you need this bit anymore. -- Janet Cobb Assessor, Rulekeepor, S​tonemason

DIS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Propositions 9134-9141

2024-07-05 Thread Janet Cobb via agora-discussion
On 6/30/24 19:51, secretsnail9 via agora-official wrote: > Amend Rule 2691 ("Sortition Procedure") by, as a single amendment, > replacing the pargraph > { > At the beginning of each quarter, the ADoP CAN by announcement, and > SHALL in a timely manner, initiate a sorition for each sortitioned > off

DIS: Re: OFF: [Herald] Birthday Tournament: Highest Number Game

2024-07-05 Thread Janet Cobb via agora-discussion
On 7/5/24 22:50, Janet Cobb via agora-official wrote: > As issues were identified with this draft, I object. > *sigh* I sincerely apologize for continuing to OFF-post. I would think I would know how to Agora by now, but apparently I don't :P. -- Janet Cobb Assessor, Rulekeepor, S​tonemason

Re: DIS: Proto: Potential Further Absurdity

2024-07-05 Thread Janet Cobb via agora-discussion
On 7/3/24 16:29, Mischief via agora-discussion wrote: >The Veblen Cost is a secured switch with values of positive >integers and a default of 1. "singleton switch". -- Janet Cobb Assessor, Rulekeepor, S​tonemason

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Propositions 9134-9141

2024-07-01 Thread Janet Cobb via agora-discussion
On 7/1/24 11:25, Agora amdw42 via agora-discussion wrote: > I vote as follows: >> 9134~ snail, ais523 1.0 It takes two > FOR >> 9135~ snail 1.0 Ammo Store > AGAINST >> 9136~ Janet, Kate, Mischief 3.0 Sorting out sortition > FOR >> 9137~ Quadrantal, Aris

DIS: Re: OFF: [Herald] Birthday Tournament: Highest Number Game

2024-06-30 Thread Janet Cobb via agora-discussion
On 6/30/24 21:00, secretsnail9 via agora-official wrote: > I made some adjustments to the highest number game, focusing more on > strategy than trying to come up with enormous numbers. Please let me know > what you think! I'll hold off on initiating if anyone tells me to. > > I intend, without 3 ob

DIS: [Stonemason] Sortition notice

2024-06-30 Thread Janet Cobb via agora-discussion
I will not be becoming an option in the ongoing Stonemason sortition. Anybody who wants to be Stonemason should feel free to do so. If the sortition does not select a new Stonemason, I will resign after P9136 (presumably) passes. -- Janet Cobb Assessor, Rulekeepor, S​tonemason

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [proposal] It's about time

2024-06-30 Thread Janet Cobb via agora-discussion
On 6/30/24 17:59, ais523 via agora-discussion wrote: > On Sun, 2024-06-30 at 11:34 -0400, Janet Cobb via agora-official wrote: >>  5. Any anniversary, monthly anniversary, or quarterly anniversary that >>     would otherwise occur on a day of the month that does not exist >>     (after considering

DIS: Re: OFF: [proposal] It's about time

2024-06-30 Thread Janet Cobb via agora-discussion
On 6/30/24 11:35, Janet Cobb via agora-official wrote: > On 6/30/24 11:34, Janet Cobb via agora-official wrote: >> I submit the following proposal: >> >> Title: Time for some clarifications >> >> Author: Janet >> >> Coauthors: >> >> Adoption index: 2.0 >> >> { >> >> Amend Rule 1023 ("Agoran Time") 

DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] It takes two, and Ammo Store

2024-06-28 Thread Janet Cobb via agora-discussion
On 6/28/24 03:10, secretsnail9 via agora-business wrote: > I submit the following proposal: > {{{ > Title: Ammo Store > Adoption Index: 1.0 > Author: snail > Co-authors: > > > Enact a new Rule with title "Ammo Store" and the following text: > > { > Each player CAN grant emself 1 bang by paying a fe

DIS: Re: OFF: [Assessor] Resolution of Proposals 9122-9124

2024-06-22 Thread Janet Cobb via agora-discussion
On 6/22/24 22:45, Janet Cobb via agora-official wrote: > // > ID: 9123 > Title: Anniversaries > Adoption index: 2.0 > Author: Mischief > Co-authors: > > > Amend rule 1023 (Agoran Time) by appending: > >5. Any anniversary,

DIS: Re: OFF: [Assessor] Resolution of Proposals 9114-9119

2024-06-22 Thread Janet Cobb via agora-discussion
On 6/20/24 22:19, Janet Cobb via agora-official wrote: > RESOLUTION OF PROPOSALS 9114-9119 > = > > IDTitle Result > -- > 9114 Grind Stone ADOPTED > 9115 Lode Stone REJECTED > 9116 A friendly gam

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Stonemason] Billboard Rock Chart - 3 June 2024

2024-06-14 Thread Janet Cobb via agora-discussion
On 6/3/24 19:05, Matt Smyth via agora-discussion wrote: > My wielding of the minty stone failed, right? Because snail had wielded it > three days prior? It would have failed if you had owned the stone, yes. -- Janet Cobb Assessor, Rulekeepor, S​tonemason

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Propositions 9114-9119

2024-06-01 Thread Janet Cobb via agora-discussion
On 6/1/24 17:25, Mischief via agora-discussion wrote: > On 6/1/24 3:57 PM, Janet Cobb via agora-business wrote: > >> Actually, the fee-based actions rules don't have any special cases for >> negative values, and you can't destroy a negative number of assets. So I >> think if the required fee is neg

DIS: Re: BUS: (@Promotor) Experimenting with Regulations

2024-05-26 Thread Janet Cobb via agora-discussion
On 5/25/24 22:11, 4st nomic via agora-business wrote: > In an effort to reduce the ruleset, what if we offload things that only > affect the officer of a report, or rather, leave the specifics of mechanics > to the officer that tracks it? > > I submit the following proposal: > { > Title: Geologist

DIS: Re: OFF: [Registrar] Birthday Announcement

2024-05-25 Thread Janet Cobb via agora-discussion
On 5/24/24 02:44, juan via agora-official wrote: > === > Registrar: juan Birthday Announcement > 2024-05-24 > === >

DIS: Re: BUS: Vacation intents

2024-05-10 Thread Janet Cobb via agora-discussion

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Petitions [further attn. Promotor, Arbitor, Tailor, ADoP]

2024-05-02 Thread Janet Cobb via agora-discussion
On 5/2/24 10:15, nix via agora-discussion wrote: > Joint awards are a normal thing in real life, and the announcement would > be pretty much identical to that intent. I really don't see any > specificity issue. I originally read, and still read, the intent as intending to award a separate title t

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Petitions [further attn. Promotor, Arbitor, Tailor, ADoP]

2024-05-01 Thread Janet Cobb via agora-discussion
On 5/1/24 13:19, nix via agora-discussion wrote: >>> I intend to award Employee of the Year to snail and Janet. >> I object, sorry. I think these need to be phrased as separate intents. >> > I don't think that's true. The rule text says awardable to "the > persons", plural. Nothing indicates it can

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Propositions 9102-9110

2024-04-30 Thread Janet Cobb via agora-discussion
On 4/29/24 22:30, Janet Cobb via agora-business wrote: > I vote as follows: >> 9102~ juniper 1.0 An Overpowering Proposal > AGAINST > > >> 9103~ juniper 1.0 Dictator Takes the Quorum > AGAINST As requested: I have voted against these because I don't want t

Re: DIS: [proto] Another ratification rewrite

2024-04-27 Thread Janet Cobb via agora-discussion
On 4/20/24 23:59, Janet Cobb via agora-discussion wrote: > Here's a draft to cleanly separate the ratification of documents and > statements, with an eye towards fixing the proposal ratification bug > that ais523 pointed out. (I don't think this itself would fix it, since >

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: (no subject)

2024-04-22 Thread Janet Cobb via agora-discussion
On 4/23/24 00:55, mqyhlkahu via agora-discussion wrote: > Hello, > > Janet (randomnetcat) responded to our Declaration of Intent to Push the > Boulder[1] with the following[2]: > >> this is *very* close to accidentally being a tabled intent under R1728 rather >> than actually pushing the bolder. >

DIS: Re: BUS: (no subject)

2024-04-22 Thread Janet Cobb via agora-discussion
On 4/23/24 00:21, mqyhlkahu via agora-business wrote: > Hello, > > We formally declare our intent to perform the following action(s): > {{{ > In accordance with [1], we announce that we Push the Boulder, thereby > increasing its Height by 1. > >[1] Rule 2683/1 (Power=0.5) > }}} > >

Re: DIS: Question regarding 'a welcome package'

2024-04-21 Thread Janet Cobb via agora-discussion
On 4/22/24 01:56, Katherina Walshe-Grey via agora-discussion wrote: > On 22/04/2024 06:41, mqyhlkahu via agora-discussion wrote: >> Hello, >> >> We received the following response to Our Registration[1]: >>> Hello! I cause the above-registering person to receive a welcome package. >> We would like

Re: DIS: Question regarding 'a welcome package'

2024-04-21 Thread Janet Cobb via agora-discussion
On 4/22/24 01:41, mqyhlkahu via agora-discussion wrote: > Hello, > > We received the following response to Our Registration[1]: >> Hello! I cause the above-registering person to receive a welcome package. > We would like to ask what a 'welcome package' is. > > Thank you. > > >[1] > https://ma

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Propositions 9096-9101

2024-04-21 Thread Janet Cobb via agora-discussion
On 4/21/24 22:43, secretsnail9 via agora-discussion wrote: >> Spending Stone: As the Stonemason, I don't want to incentivize massive >> numbers of wieldings in the same message because that increases my >> workload. >> > This one doesn't make sense, the stones would probably be wielded anyways, > a

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: An Overpowering Proposal

2024-04-21 Thread Janet Cobb via agora-discussion
On 4/21/24 20:11, Matt Smyth via agora-discussion wrote: > I edit the proposal as such: > > On Mon, 22 Apr 2024, 9:41 am Matt Smyth via agora-business, < > agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote: > >> I submit the following proposal: >> >> {{{ >> Title: An Overpowering Proposal >> Adoption Index: 1.0

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Propositions 9096-9101

2024-04-21 Thread Janet Cobb via agora-discussion
On 4/21/24 18:04, secretsnail9 via agora-discussion wrote: > On Sun, Apr 21, 2024 at 3:12 PM Janet Cobb via agora-business < > agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote: > >>> 9099~ snail 2.0 Quantum Superstone >> AGAINST >> >> >>> 9100~ snail 2.0 Spending Sto

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Propositions 9087-9095

2024-04-20 Thread Janet Cobb via agora-discussion
On 4/18/24 08:26, 4st nomic via agora-discussion wrote: > I think crystal poaching is fine: it's competitive teamwork! I've poached > Janet for example. Perhaps coauthors need to be rewarded also? I mean, I wasn't thrilled by that. I think it's reasonable to want to reap the rewards from your own

DIS: [proto] Another ratification rewrite

2024-04-20 Thread Janet Cobb via agora-discussion
Here's a draft to cleanly separate the ratification of documents and statements, with an eye towards fixing the proposal ratification bug that ais523 pointed out. (I don't think this itself would fix it, since the R2034 would still need to be updated to include explicit statements about the attribu

Re: DIS: [Proto] Sortition

2024-04-16 Thread Janet Cobb via agora-discussion
On 4/14/24 12:41, nix via agora-discussion wrote: > Enact a new Power = 2 rule titled "Sortition Procedure" with the > following text: > >     At the beginning of each quarter, the ADoP CAN by announcement, and >     SHALL in a timely manner, initiate a sorition for each sortitioned >     office if

DIS: Re: OFF: [Assessor] Resolution of Proposals 9073-9086

2024-04-14 Thread Janet Cobb via agora-discussion
On 4/7/24 03:25, Janet Cobb via agora-official wrote: > RESOLUTION OF PROPOSALS 9073-9086 > = > > IDTitle Result > - > 9073 In case of unexpected nonplayerhood

DIS: A call for delegates

2024-04-10 Thread Janet Cobb via agora-discussion
I am planning to use the new Vacations rule to take a Vacation from my three offices (Assessor, Rulekeepor, Stonemason) over the month of May. If anybody would like to be a Delegate for any of those offices, please let me know! I would be happy to provide instruction on how my automation (for Asse

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Cleaning R2578

2024-04-08 Thread Janet Cobb via agora-discussion
On 4/8/24 18:42, 4st nomic via agora-discussion wrote: > I object > The possessive and the plural are not typos The full context: > Amend R2578 to read in full: > > A fungible asset is one where two instances of it are considered > equivalent if they have the same owner, for the purposes

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Cleaning R2578

2024-04-08 Thread Janet Cobb via agora-discussion
On 4/8/24 18:45, 4st nomic via agora-discussion wrote: > I object on secondary grounds that rule 2578 "currencies" does not contain > "entities" It does as a result of a resolved proposal, I just noticed it while working on the (unpublished) updated ruleset. -- Janet Cobb Assessor, Rulekeepor,

DIS: Re: (@Assessor) BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Propositions 9073-9086

2024-03-30 Thread Janet Cobb via agora-discussion
On 3/30/24 06:38, ais523 via agora-business wrote: >> 9074*   Janet   3.0   Close enough > AGAINST: the "must include" here seems wrong, what happens if it > doesn't? Some nomics would read this as creating a legal fiction that > the ruleset contains revision numbers, even if it doe

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: CFJ 4072 Judged TRUE

2024-03-29 Thread Janet Cobb via agora-discussion
On 3/25/24 18:10, nix via agora-discussion wrote: > On 3/16/24 22:08, Janet Cobb via agora-business wrote: >> So, a potential point of disagreement here is what *exactly* this >> standard is requiring. Importantly, I think it's unclear whether the >> requirement for the "specification of the method

DIS: Re: OFF: [Rulekeepor] Short Logical Ruleset - 22 Mar 2024

2024-03-25 Thread Janet Cobb via agora-discussion
On 3/22/24 14:35, Janet Cobb via agora-official wrote: > > Rule 2689/0 (Power=3.0) > Offices > > Delegate is an Office switch with possible values of "None" and > any active player, and default value of "None". Del

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Assessor] Revised Resolution of Proposals 9068-9069

2024-03-24 Thread Janet Cobb via agora-discussion
On 3/24/24 17:56, Edward Murphy via agora-discussion wrote: > Well, I for one am confused. What was this even /intended/ to do? It > appears to fail to resolve anything, due to ambiguity. Or was it > intended as "I already published a corrected resolution, now I'm > just quoting said correction in

Re: DIS: Re: [Arbitor] CFJ 4056 assigned to @Gaelan [Re: BUS: (@Arbitor) Recusal - CFJ 4056]

2024-03-19 Thread Janet Cobb via agora-discussion
On 3/17/24 20:19, Gaelan Steele via agora-discussion wrote: > >> On Mar 16, 2024, at 5:38 PM, nix via agora-business >> wrote: >> >> I assign CFJ 4056 to Gaelan. > Some preliminary thoughts; arguments on any of these points (or any points I > missed) are welcome. > > The argument for TRUE is, bro

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Reconsidering 4069

2024-03-17 Thread Janet Cobb via agora-discussion
On 3/18/24 01:14, Janet Cobb via agora-discussion wrote: > On 3/17/24 22:14, 4st nomic via agora-discussion wrote: >> What evidence do you have that rule numbers and Id numbers are the same? >> Because arguing that this case is false has definitive disastrous effects, >> so is

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Reconsidering 4069

2024-03-17 Thread Janet Cobb via agora-discussion
On 3/17/24 22:14, 4st nomic via agora-discussion wrote: > What evidence do you have that rule numbers and Id numbers are the same? > Because arguing that this case is false has definitive disastrous effects, > so is there another way to judge this case outside of those two options? The earliest F

Re: DIS: Re: [Arbitor] CFJ 4056 assigned to @Gaelan [Re: BUS: (@Arbitor) Recusal - CFJ 4056]

2024-03-17 Thread Janet Cobb via agora-discussion
On 3/17/24 20:19, Gaelan Steele via agora-discussion wrote: > - Snail’s dictatorship rule “Public Speaking” had at least power 3. > - Proposal 23n’t was adopted. (messages 324) > - The proposal was correctly distributed, despite “23n’t” allegedly not > being > a valid ID number

Re: DIS: [Proto] Spendies

2024-03-16 Thread Janet Cobb via agora-discussion
On 3/16/24 22:37, nix via agora-discussion wrote: >> Also, per precedent, this has to say "with ownership wholly restricted >> to players and contracts" (or similar), otherwise it doesn't override >> the default of being ownable by Agora. > What precedent? That's an unusual way to use defaults. W

Re: DIS: [Proto] Spendies

2024-03-16 Thread Janet Cobb via agora-discussion
On 3/16/24 22:17, nix via agora-discussion wrote: > Here's a proto, let me know what you think: > > { > Title: Spendies > Author: nix > Co-Authors: > AI: 2 Idea seems fine? I'm pretty bad at judging economies though. The obligatory copy-editing follows: > [Spendies are simple. We all start wit

Re: DIS: [draft] CFJ 4069 Judgement

2024-03-16 Thread Janet Cobb via agora-discussion
On 3/14/24 17:46, 4st nomic via agora-discussion wrote: > PLEASE NOTE, unfortunately, no mechanism is actually provided for the > Rulekeepor to officially assign numbers to rules, and as the Rulekeepor > must track rule/ID numbers, this means it is a game action and is REGULATED > under the 2020 ru

Re: DIS: Request for Feedback: What's the Method Anyway?

2024-03-13 Thread Janet Cobb via agora-discussion
On 3/13/24 16:16, Janet Cobb wrote: > On 3/12/24 18:48, nix via agora-discussion wrote: >> This is related to CFJ 4072, but you don't need to be familiar with all >> of the arguments there. >> >> I just want everyone's reading on one (crucial) element. R105 requires >> an "unambiguous and clear spe

Re: DIS: Request for Feedback: What's the Method Anyway?

2024-03-13 Thread Janet Cobb via agora-discussion
On 3/12/24 18:48, nix via agora-discussion wrote: > This is related to CFJ 4072, but you don't need to be familiar with all > of the arguments there. > > I just want everyone's reading on one (crucial) element. R105 requires > an "unambiguous and clear specification of the method to be used for > c

Re: DIS: Re: (@arbitor, @referee) Re: BUS: A lie

2024-03-12 Thread Janet Cobb via agora-discussion
On 3/12/24 14:39, ais523 via agora-discussion wrote: > On Tue, 2024-03-12 at 14:29 -0400, Janet Cobb via agora-business wrote: >> Or, in the alternative, based on the authority Rule 2125, Rule 2471 >> prohibits sending a message with certain attributes, and that is what >> the infraction is. So, th

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Arbitor] New Arbitor in Town @kiako @Kate @Yachay @ais523 @Janet @Murphy

2024-03-10 Thread Janet Cobb via agora-discussion
On 3/10/24 19:01, secretsnail9 via agora-discussion wrote: > On Sun, Mar 10, 2024 at 5:45 PM ais523 via agora-discussion < > agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > >> On Sun, 2024-03-10 at 15:38 -0700, Edward Murphy via agora-discussion >> wrote: >>> If so, and if Kate indeed gained five Ribbons

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Propositions 9068-9069

2024-03-04 Thread Janet Cobb via agora-discussion
On 3/3/24 17:22, Yachay Wayllukuq via agora-discussion wrote: > Would this perhaps allow it to merit a non-AGAINST vote? My fingers are > crossed. I'll think about it, but I'm still concerned about the CFJ load. -- Janet Cobb Assessor, Rulekeepor, S​tonemason

Re: DIS: Re: (@Stonemason, Illuminator) BUS: Re: OFF: [Stonemason] Billboard Rock Chart - 4 Mar 2024

2024-03-03 Thread Janet Cobb via agora-discussion
On 3/4/24 01:01, ais523 via agora-discussion wrote: > On Mon, 2024-03-04 at 00:57 -0500, Janet Cobb via agora-discussion wrote: >> On 3/4/24 00:48, ais523 via agora-business wrote: >>> I wield the Anti-Equatorial Stone, specifying the Recursion Stone (the >>> Power Stone

DIS: Re: (@Stonemason, Illuminator) BUS: Re: OFF: [Stonemason] Billboard Rock Chart - 4 Mar 2024

2024-03-03 Thread Janet Cobb via agora-discussion
On 3/4/24 00:48, ais523 via agora-business wrote: > On Mon, 2024-03-04 at 00:40 -0500, Janet Cobb via agora-official wrote: >> THE BILLBOARD ROCK CHART (STONEMASON'S WEEKLY REPORT) >> >> Stone    Mossiness  Owner    Last Wielded  Immune? >> ---  -  --

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Propositions 9068-9069

2024-03-03 Thread Janet Cobb via agora-discussion
On 3/3/24 16:30, Edward Murphy via agora-discussion wrote: > Janet wrote: > >> On 3/3/24 16:24, Edward Murphy via agora-business wrote: 9068~ Yachay 1.0 Agora of Empires >>> FOR (without 2 objections is a reasonable guard against trivial >>> wins, other issues can be ironed out

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [@Herald] Re: ALT: (@Herald) Thesis still needs review/feedback/corrections/additions

2024-02-27 Thread Janet Cobb via agora-discussion
On 2/27/24 11:30, nix via agora-discussion wrote: > On 2/27/24 09:49, 4st nomic via agora-business wrote: >> I petition the Herald to deny reviewing my thesis nor accept it as a thesis. >> Ample time was given for players to review it, and no reviews were provided. >> If players don't care about th

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Potential ruleset issue

2024-02-18 Thread Janet Cobb via agora-discussion
On 2/18/24 17:39, Edward Murphy via agora-discussion wrote: > nix wrote: > >> On 2/15/24 19:07, Janet Cobb via agora-business wrote: >>> So, we've discovered on Discord a potential issue that could have >>> wide-ranging effects. Consider the four-day rule as stated in the >>> (purported) Rule 105/2

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: (@Promotor) No Taxation Without Representation

2024-02-17 Thread Janet Cobb via agora-discussion
On 2/15/24 12:54, 4st nomic via agora-discussion wrote: > On Thu, Feb 15, 2024 at 9:44 AM Janet Cobb via agora-discussion < > agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > >> On 2/15/24 12:41, 4st nomic via agora-business wrote: >>> I submit the following proposal: >&g

DIS: Re: BUS: (@Promotor) No Taxation Without Representation

2024-02-15 Thread Janet Cobb via agora-discussion
On 2/15/24 12:41, 4st nomic via agora-business wrote: > I submit the following proposal: > { > Title: No Taxation Without Representation > Adoption Index: 2.0 > Author: 4st > Co-author(s): > > [Currently, democratic proposals can pass even if the quorum is much lower > than the number of active pla

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Assessor] Resolution of Proposals 9053-9057 [attn. Arbitor]

2024-02-15 Thread Janet Cobb via agora-discussion
On 2/14/24 20:16, 4st nomic via agora-discussion wrote: > Counterarguments/Gratuitous arguments TRUE: >> 1. Does text specify a rule change? >> 2. If so, is it unambiguous what the text of the rule to be enacted is? >> As to 1, the text makes no mention of a "rule", only "enact[ing]" >> something.

DIS: Re: OFF: [Herald] Scroll of Agora

2024-01-27 Thread Janet Cobb via agora-discussion
On 1/27/24 10:44, 4st nomic via agora-official wrote: > HERETOFORE, let it be known, I am become Herald! > WHENCE I thusly deputize as Herald > TO publish the following December (and January) report. > WHEREBY snail hath lacked in eir duties > WHICH expired nearly two fortnites ago. > > > SINCE the

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