DIS: Re: BUS: ...

2009-02-11 Thread comex
On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 7:07 PM, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote: I apologize if this is so. When you denied and posted the 'did not', 'did too', I assumed you were acknowledging that the statement Rule 2238 is a Power=3 rule to BUS was meant to be a self-ratifying statement from the

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: ...

2009-02-11 Thread comex
On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 7:20 PM, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote: Oh, it was a scam and you broke it, just for the wrong reason: I was going to declare it self-ratifying a few minutes before seven days after it was published. :) Ah well, we'll see how the other CFJ goes. I'm blind

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: ...

2009-02-11 Thread comex
On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 7:44 PM, Charles Reiss woggl...@gmail.com wrote: Amend Rule 2138 (The International Associate Director of Personnel) by removing: The portion of a public message purporting to be an IADoP's report that lists the holder of each office is self-ratifying.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: ...

2009-02-11 Thread comex
On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 8:09 PM, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote: On Wed, 11 Feb 2009, comex wrote: However, if everyone was deregistered, even though the same rule would be defining Citizenship, the Power 2-defined 'player' would no longer match the ordinary-language meaning

Re: DIS: Adoption Index

2009-02-10 Thread comex
On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 5:29 PM, Aaron Goldfein aarongoldf...@gmail.com wrote: I have been browsing the FLR and do not seems to fully understand the adoption indexes of proposals. Aside from maintenance proposals (which have an AI of 1), are adoption indexes arbitrary? Power=N rules can only

DIS: Re: BUS: Test test test

2009-02-10 Thread comex
On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 7:05 PM, Warrigal ihope12...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 6:48 PM, comex com...@gmail.com wrote: Test, test, test, test, test, test. I support. Sorry, that's the last test. Cron's been acting up.

Re: DIS: Still learning this...

2009-02-09 Thread comex
messages: one was sent from comex com...@gmail.com and shows up as comex while the one from just com...@gmail.com shows up as agora-discussion. (http://www.agoranomic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/agora-business/2009-February/date.html) Umm... that's odd. I sent that message with gmail, albeit

DIS: Re: OFF: [Insulator] Fnord!

2009-02-09 Thread comex
On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 7:03 PM, Ed Murphy emurph...@socal.rr.com wrote: Fri 13 Feb 18:15:40 comex +2 02/09:001 (if uncontested) 02/09:001 18:15:40 comex Murphy 18682CFJ 2339 Hmm?

Re: DIS: Re: agora-discussion digest registration

2009-02-08 Thread comex
On Sun, Feb 8, 2009 at 10:59 AM, Aaron Goldfein aarongoldf...@gmail.com wrote: Message: 1 Date: Sat, 7 Feb 2009 08:38:44 -0500 From: Geoffrey Spear geoffsp...@gmail.com To: agora-discussion@agoranomic.org Subject: DIS: Re: BUS: Registration Reply-To: agora-discussion@agoranomic.org Welcome.

Re: DIS: Notifications (attn: test)

2009-02-06 Thread comex
On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 2:27 PM, com...@gmail.com wrote: This is a test notification This is a test notification This is a test notification This is a test notification This is a test notification This is a test notification This is a test notification So, anyone want an automated

Re: DIS: Notifications (attn: test)

2009-02-06 Thread comex
On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 3:01 PM, Benjamin Caplan celestialcognit...@gmail.com wrote: I'd suggest trying to delay the notifications to send them in batch, combining several in a single message. This would require the timeout to be defined as a range, a wider range causing fewer automatic messages

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Scorekeepor] Scoreboard

2009-02-05 Thread comex
On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 4:56 AM, Alex Smith ais...@bham.ac.uk wrote: I don't think it is possible to implicitly be a Win Announcement, they have to be 'clearly labeled'. (I generally use the phrasing The following sentence is a Win Announcement, and this sentence serves to clearly label it as

DIS: Re: BUS: Prempting that Rule 104 question

2009-02-05 Thread comex
On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 10:07 AM, Alex Smith ais...@bham.ac.uk wrote: I submit the following proposal (AI=2, II=1, Title=FAQ): Insert the following paragraph after the third paragraph of rule 2186: {{{ When used as a period of time, a game is the period of time between one instant at

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: Voting results for Proposal 6069, and scam

2009-02-03 Thread comex
On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 10:24 AM, Geoffrey Spear geoffsp...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 10:11 AM, Alex Smith ais...@bham.ac.uk wrote: (h) Eagle-eyed, to be awarded to any player who noticed a scam, thought up a way to stop it, warned everyone clearly, and yet

DIS: Re: BUS: Cassandra

2009-02-03 Thread comex
On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 11:12 AM, Alex Smith ais...@bham.ac.uk wrote: (h) Cassandra, to be awarded to any player who noticed a scam, thought up a way to stop it, warned everyone clearly, and yet You need another 'and' in there.

DIS: Re: BUS: Judgement, CFJ 2358

2009-02-02 Thread comex
On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 7:11 AM, Alex Smith ais...@bham.ac.uk wrote: First, I must point out that the caller's argument that the same precedent would apply to Canti Cygnei (sorry about the dubious plural, but the grammar of the original phrase is dubious in the first place) What's wrong with

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Judgement, CFJ 2358

2009-02-02 Thread comex
On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 11:06 AM, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote: What's wrong with it? Although the standard Latin term for swan song is, according to words, 'vox cycneus', there's no grammatical reason why 'cantus' couldn't substitute. However, the plural would be 'cantus cygnei'.

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: Voting results for Proposal 6069, and scam

2009-02-02 Thread comex
On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 5:35 PM, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote: otw, pretty apathetic on everyone else's part eh what, not like there was no warning, even a specific warning... Yeah, seriously. You'd think that after the last scam people would be more willing to democratize.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Judgement, CFJ 2358

2009-02-02 Thread comex
On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 2:06 PM, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote: Ah, fourth declension nominative is same in single and plural (cantus) and cygneus is an adjective. My cantus cygneus + your cantus cygneus = our cantus cygneus. Cycneus is second declension however, so Cantus Cygnei.

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Herald] The Scrolls of Agora

2009-01-31 Thread comex
On Sat, Jan 31, 2009 at 3:15 PM, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote: The whole reason we made Rests transfer to first-class members of partnerships was so that we could make first-class members take responsibility for their partnerships' actions. This was a deliberate repair to a broken

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Herald] The Scrolls of Agora

2009-01-30 Thread comex
On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 7:35 PM, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote: When one became a zombie, an auction was held. The winning bidder would gain complete power of attorney over the zombie, and would traditionally Loot the Body of currency, then keep possession of the zombie; zombies

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2346 assigned to Wooble

2009-01-27 Thread comex
On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 7:17 AM, Geoffrey Spear geoffsp...@gmail.com wrote: It seems incredibly unlikely that when entering into a contract with someone who's breached as many contracts as ehird has ais523 reasonably expected em to abide by the terms of the contract. Affairs proceded exactly

DIS: Re: BUS: weekly reports and duties NoVs

2009-01-26 Thread comex
On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 6:34 AM, Elliott Hird penguinoftheg...@googlemail.com wrote: I did it, as getting my server running again is one of my least priorities out-of-game ATM. I would implore an Agoran court not to obligate me to take out of game actions such as putting up a server. I would

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: weekly reports and duties NoVs

2009-01-26 Thread comex
On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 6:50 AM, Elliott Hird penguinoftheg...@googlemail.com wrote: I would stop comex doing such things, but I'd have to have his consent to act on behalf of Bayes. You consented to cause Bayes to accept the nomination. I don't believe you have any outstanding intents to act

DIS: Re: BUS: revenge of the NoVs

2009-01-26 Thread comex
On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 11:35 PM, Geoffrey Spear geoffsp...@gmail.com wrote: I published NoVs accusing players of violating rules in the past week, none of which were made for personal reasons. comex responded by digging up violations that occurred months ago, including violations by panels

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: committee cleanup?

2009-01-26 Thread comex
On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 2:56 PM, Ed Murphy emurph...@socal.rr.com wrote: comex wrote: On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 10:53 AM, Geoffrey Spear geoffsp...@gmail.com wrote: I intend, without objection, to make The Normish Partnership 2 inactive. I object. (This doesn't have any practical impact

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: Notary wiki

2009-01-26 Thread comex
On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 3:05 PM, Ed Murphy emurph...@socal.rr.com wrote: 1) Spambots Well, accounts given to any requesting player would suffice, I suppose. 2) Players making incorrect edits, whether through malice or accident I think we can avoid malice on the honor system. As for accident,

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: committee cleanup?

2009-01-26 Thread comex
On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 4:45 PM, Ed Murphy emurph...@socal.rr.com wrote: So you just mean it doesn't matter because TNP2 never votes on anything in practice, even though it could in theory? I just meant that it's not doing any harm by failing to vote and thus diluting the power of the

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: Distribution of proposals 6063-6069

2009-01-26 Thread comex
On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 7:26 PM, Charles Reiss woggl...@gmail.com wrote: Anyone CAN cause this rule to amend itself by announcement. NoV: The PNP violated Rule 1607 by distributing this proposal (a mangled copy of P6069). I contest this. It's not clear to me that actually violates R1607

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Judicial NoVs

2009-01-25 Thread comex
On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 10:10 PM, Geoffrey Spear geoffsp...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 10:01 PM, comex com...@gmail.com wrote: I contest these and initiate criminal cases regarding the above-contested NoVs. You could have easily reminded either me or the CotC to achieve

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: bank merger

2009-01-24 Thread comex
On Sat, Jan 24, 2009 at 9:41 AM, Elliott Hird penguinoftheg...@googlemail.com wrote: CoE: Not all of these are Comrades, so some of this distribution failed. So did it all fail or just those...? Those coins are still held by the RBoA.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: Distribution of proposals 6060-6062

2009-01-23 Thread comex
On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 12:54 PM, Geoffrey Spear geoffsp...@gmail.com wrote: So it is. I spend A C# E to increase my caste to Beta. Fails. To increase your own caste, you must spend five notes.

DIS: Re: BUS: bank merger

2009-01-22 Thread comex
On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 11:40 AM, Geoffrey Spear geoffsp...@gmail.com wrote: I become a party to the RBoA. (I may have already been a party. The Notary website says I am but it also says BobTHJ is.) Hmm... since when has Bankership not been restricted to aristocrats?

DIS: Re: BUS: bank merger

2009-01-22 Thread comex
On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 8:22 PM, Benjamin Schultz ke...@verizon.net wrote: I publish the following conditional action: If Wooble's motion of 22 Jan 2009 is approved, then immediately after the change in exchange rates but before any other actions involving the RBoA happen, I withdraw as much

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: Distribution of proposal 6059

2009-01-21 Thread comex
On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 12:40 PM, Alex Smith ais...@bham.ac.uk wrote: Ah, clever. Most partnerships aren't sufficiently unilateral to be able to manage that, and arguably the ones that do are sufficient to land people in enough trouble as it is. (For instance, you could get the partnership to

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2321 assigned to woggle

2009-01-19 Thread comex
On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 7:15 AM, Alex Smith ais...@bham.ac.uk wrote: (One argument was that their version of R101 was sufficiently garbled that it was not only possible to bind other people to contracts against their will, but that being bound to a contract against your will was illegal!)

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Report NoVs

2009-01-18 Thread comex
On Sat, Jan 17, 2009 at 2:54 PM, Geoffrey Spear geoffsp...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Jan 17, 2009 at 11:52 AM, comex com...@gmail.com wrote: That's not very nice-- e clearly was unaware of the situation. I don't think it's unreasonable to expect officers to read the rules. Officers can

DIS: Re: BUS: Watcher registration

2009-01-18 Thread comex
On Sun, Jan 18, 2009 at 10:41 PM, bd_ b...@fushizen.net wrote: I request listing as a Watcher. ehird: no.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Watcher registration

2009-01-18 Thread comex
On Sun, Jan 18, 2009 at 11:31 PM, Ed Murphy emurph...@socal.rr.com wrote: http://zenith.homelinux.net/cotc/viewcase.php?cfj=1882 http://zenith.homelinux.net/cotc/viewcase.php?cfj=2343 The first of these was legitimately ambiguous on multiple points, the second wasn't. Not to mention,

DIS: Re: BUS: Report NoVs

2009-01-17 Thread comex
On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 10:59 PM, Geoffrey Spear geoffsp...@gmail.com wrote: I contest this. The Notary wiki page contains the text and parties of all current contracts, as required of my monthly report. I don't believe it is necessary for me to send it to the mailing list. Agora is not B.

DIS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2328 assigned to OscarMeyr

2009-01-15 Thread comex
On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 3:32 AM, Ed Murphy emurph...@socal.rr.com wrote: Judge: OscarMeyr ehird SHALL deregister.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: A trivial paradox?

2009-01-12 Thread comex
On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 4:07 AM, Alex Smith ais...@bham.ac.uk wrote: It's pretty rare for them to actually work; even the Gnarly Contract (the only recent one I can remember working) needed two tries. Also, can we please fix that loophole, now? (I submitted a proposal to fix it, but IIRC it

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2326 judged GUILTY / SILENCE (3.4 or 1.7) by OscarMeyr

2009-01-12 Thread comex
On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 4:10 AM, Alex Smith ais...@bham.ac.uk wrote: Might be good to get the Rulekeepor to clean the rule, though. I'm not sure that counts as a spelling and/or grammar correction.

Re: DIS: Proto: A radical inquiry CFJ change

2009-01-12 Thread comex
On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 3:57 AM, Alex Smith ais...@bham.ac.uk wrote: (Otherwise it could be interpreted as giving the judge the choice of true or false in the case of negative judgements. And we wouldn't want that, now would we?) We may as well do, although a judge submitting a proposal that

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Activity check

2009-01-09 Thread comex
On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 10:58 PM, Siege thesi...@gmail.com wrote: I object to my own deactivation (Siege). I'm here, just biding my time. NttPF

DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: Easier hermitage

2009-01-09 Thread comex
On Fri, Jan 9, 2009 at 11:24 AM, Ed Murphy emurph...@socal.rr.com wrote: Repeal Rule 2218 (Win by Not Losing). [Redundant and underpowered.] It was already repealed by Proposal 6031; I just haven't updated the ruleset yet.

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: Full Logical Ruleset

2009-01-09 Thread comex
On Fri, Jan 9, 2009 at 4:06 PM, Ed Murphy emurph...@socal.rr.com wrote: A copy is located at http://www.agoranomic.org/coat_of_arms.png and a backup copy is located at http://zenith.homelinux.net/awj/image/coat_of_arms.png Updated to use this link.

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Registrar] Census

2009-01-08 Thread comex
On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 3:03 PM, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote: IANAJ, but I do have an opinion on this too actually. There was sufficient (intentionally-created) unclarity in an action attempt that could be mapped onto either deregistration (R754i) or UNDAD (per contract you had

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2331 assigned to comex

2009-01-08 Thread comex
On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 3:36 PM, Charles Schaefer chuckles11...@gmail.com wrote: Sorry for clogging the Judicial system. I wasn't aware that this had already been addressed. TWICE. Three times now, and if I am ever elected CotC, I will make certain to assign Michael Norrish CFJs as soon as

DIS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2312 judged GUILTY / SILENCE (3) by OscarMeyr

2009-01-08 Thread comex
On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 8:45 PM, Ed Murphy emurph...@socal.rr.com wrote: Judge OscarMeyr's Arguments: I do not see any Conductor's reports in my archives for the month between 17 November and 14 December. I uphold the first three NoVs; I reject the fourth one, as it applies to the week

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2326 judged GUILTY / SILENCE (3.4 or 1.7) by OscarMeyr

2009-01-08 Thread comex
On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 10:02 PM, Taral tar...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 6:29 PM, Ed Murphy emurph...@socal.rr.com wrote: As the act in question is noncompliance with a CFJ ruling, I intend with 2 support to fine the ninny 3.4 Rests. If this support is not met, I will fine the

DIS: Re: BUS: bah

2009-01-07 Thread comex
On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 1:07 PM, Geoffrey Spear geoffsp...@gmail.com wrote: I transfer a prop from comex to Goethe for using the joust test server to reverse engineer scripts by flooding the server with test programs. I love side-channel attacks. wooble_231208_2: Minimum runtime before win: 429

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2321 assigned to Wooble

2009-01-07 Thread comex
On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 12:08 PM, Elliott Hird penguinoftheg...@googlemail.com wrote: On 7 Jan 2009, at 17:00, Geoffrey Spear wrote: I formally request that the Servant write a judgment for this CFJ. My judgment: I accept the caller's arguments. TRUE. This is an awful judgement. Then again, I

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2321 assigned to Wooble

2009-01-07 Thread comex
On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 3:16 PM, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote: This is an awful judgement. Then again, I don't think your Servant Coin was ever removed, so... Why? I'm biased, and one can always go into excessive detail in a judgement, but the caller's arguments were generally

DIS: Re: BUS: Informs

2009-01-06 Thread comex
On Tue, Jan 6, 2009 at 12:44 AM, Ed Murphy emurph...@socal.rr.com wrote: As CotC, I inform the following players of the following criminal cases naming them as the defendant, and invite them to rebut the argument for their guilt. j

DIS: Re: BUS: Speaker

2009-01-06 Thread comex
On Tue, Jan 6, 2009 at 1:22 PM, Elliott Hird penguinoftheg...@googlemail.com wrote: and SHOULD be used when a rule includes a term otherwise. -- MMI Has this specific aspect of the First Speaker rule been thought about before? CFJ: { Michael Norrish is obligated to be Michael Norrish } This

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Speaker

2009-01-06 Thread comex
On Tue, Jan 6, 2009 at 9:05 PM, Charles Schaefer chuckles11...@gmail.com wrote: Inquiry CFJ: {The current Speaker is Michael Norrish.} See CFJs 2155 and 1534.

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: Distribution of proposals 6036-6049

2009-01-05 Thread comex
On Sun, Jan 4, 2009 at 8:07 PM, Pavitra celestialcognit...@gmail.com wrote: 6046 D 1 2.0 comex Cruft AGAINST. remove ... all text under it arguably does not stop at the beginning of (c), and might even delete all sufficiently low-powered rules listed after 1023 in the Logical

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: New Years Resolution

2009-01-05 Thread comex
On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 4:15 PM, Elliott Hird penguinoftheg...@googlemail.com wrote: [Don't worry, I should have something more reliable to things like this soon. Be patient...] git please

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2311 assigned to Goethe

2009-01-05 Thread comex
On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 1:46 PM, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote: This is in keeping with the generally permissive Agoran attitude of what constitutes an entity. Such as offices?

Re: DIS: R.I.P. B Nomic

2009-01-05 Thread comex
On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 9:56 PM, Sgeo sgeos...@gmail.com wrote: On January 6th, 2009, 2:52:53 AM, B Nomic has died. May it rest in peace. Actually, it did not die because Tweaks can't be submitted. A few minutes ago I attempted to ratify into existence a rule that forbids the game from ending;

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Between 4 and 14 days earlier

2008-12-29 Thread comex
On Sun, Dec 28, 2008 at 10:28 PM, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote: It's because the Intent is, in fact, in the words of R1769, simply required before the dependent action attempt. The fact that it is required 4 days before means that it's also required 3 days before, 2 days before,

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Between 4 and 14 days earlier

2008-12-29 Thread comex
On Mon, Dec 29, 2008 at 10:44 AM, comex com...@gmail.com wrote: I disagree... if you require that an action be done four days earlier than X, you are not requiring that it be done prior to X, but prior to (four days before X). If I advise you, new to the Agoran ruleset, that you have

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Between 4 and 14 days earlier

2008-12-29 Thread comex
On Mon, Dec 29, 2008 at 11:15 AM, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote: Mine is semantically and logically 100% accurate, in that the CFJ statement a Notice of Intent is required to be posted before the time a matching w/o Objection action is performed would be judged TRUE based on R1728.

DIS: Re: BUS: I Intend Happy Holidays for All!

2008-12-24 Thread comex
On Wed, Dec 24, 2008 at 10:52 AM, Elliott Hird penguinoftheg...@googlemail.com wrote: CoE: I have an outstanding objection to everything, maybe You retracted it.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: I Intend Happy Holidays for All!

2008-12-23 Thread comex
On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 7:54 PM, Ed Murphy emurph...@socal.rr.com wrote: If some Rule requires that an action be done prior to a given time, and that given time falls during a Holiday, or within the 72-hour period immediately following that Holiday, then that action need

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Assessor] Voting results for Proposals 6014 - 6016

2008-12-22 Thread comex
On Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 6:13 PM, Ed Murphy emurph...@socal.rr.com wrote: H. Rulekeepor, can you please advise how OscarMeyr's vote was in fact resolved, so that I can update the Assessor DB accordingly? CFJ 2277 determined that Proposal 5961 (which would have repealed Rule 2140) was not

DIS: Re: OFF: [Assessor] Voting results for Proposals 6018 - 6026

2008-12-22 Thread comex
On Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 6:46 PM, Ed Murphy emurph...@socal.rr.com wrote: *6022 D1 3.0 Murphy Cleanup of Power=3 definitions *6023 D1 2.0 Murphy Cleanup of Power=2 definitions *6024 D1 2.0 Murphy Cleanup of judicial definitions *6025 D1 2.0 Murphy Cleanup of

DIS: Fwd: The Oracle replies!

2008-12-20 Thread comex
Y'know, that wasn't actually an answer. -- Forwarded message -- From: The Internet Oracle ora...@cs.indiana.edu Date: Sat, Dec 20, 2008 at 5:52 PM Subject: The Oracle replies! To: comexk+o...@gmail.com The Internet Oracle has pondered your question deeply. Your question was:

Re: DIS: Proto-contest for BF

2008-12-20 Thread comex
On Sat, Dec 20, 2008 at 5:51 PM, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote: This is a [PROTO-] public contract and (if permitted by the Rules) a Contest. Goethe is the contestmaster; members and Agoran courts SHOULD generally defer to eir adjudication of disputes if the need arises. Goethe CAN

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: bf joust programs wanted

2008-12-19 Thread comex
On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 10:10 AM, Elliott Hird penguinoftheg...@googlemail.com wrote: seems very easy [129 +s, then a large, large amount of s] That's an easy way to lose, yes, since you'd be zeroing your own flag.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: bf joust programs wanted

2008-12-19 Thread comex
On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 10:45 AM, Elliott Hird penguinoftheg...@googlemail.com wrote: On 19 Dec 2008, at 15:33, comex wrote: That's an easy way to lose, yes, since you'd be zeroing your own flag. put the first Then you run off the edge of the array, since you don't know what size it is. I

DIS: Re: BUS: [Anarchist] Proposals

2008-12-18 Thread comex
On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 7:34 AM, Bayes ba...@eso-std.org wrote: Bayes submits the following proposal, titled Repeal 'Foreign communications' (AI=1, II=0): { Repeal Rule 2184 (Foreign communications). } I'll vote for this one. After all, what if a foreign nomic says that an appropriate

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2274 assigned to Elysion

2008-12-18 Thread comex
On Sat, Dec 13, 2008 at 6:05 PM, Joshua Boehme boehm...@msu.edu wrote: are of similar plausability to make the I make Proposal X democratic ambiguous? (Note that I completely disagree with that, but I am trying to make sense of where you're coming from.) I use a mechanism that no longer

Re: DIS: braincorefckwars

2008-12-18 Thread comex
On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 12:54 PM, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote: I've been toying with an idea for a combined brainfuck (er sorry BobTHJ)/ corewars match... by which I mean BF language and array but two programs fighting for the array space. I think if done right it would be a bit

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [IADoP] uncontested elections

2008-12-18 Thread comex
On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 5:18 PM, Charles Schaefer chuckles11...@gmail.com wrote: Unsuccessful, source not specified. I transfer one prop FROM MYSELF to Murphy. Fails, reason not specified. :D

Re: DIS: braincorefckwars

2008-12-18 Thread comex
On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 6:37 PM, Benjamin Schultz ke...@verizon.net wrote: Does there exist a decent Perl to Brainfuck parser / compiler? (There probably does, as nobody in their right mind writes their code directly in Brainfuck.) Doesn't compiling into Brainfuck sort of defeat the purpose?

Re: DIS: braincorefckwars

2008-12-18 Thread comex
On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 8:18 PM, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote: On Thu, 18 Dec 2008, comex wrote: On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 6:37 PM, Benjamin Schultz ke...@verizon.net wrote: Does there exist a decent Perl to Brainfuck parser / compiler? (There probably does, as nobody

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: Distribution of proposals 6027-6032

2008-12-17 Thread comex
On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 3:15 PM, Bayes ba...@eso-std.org wrote: Bayes votes as follows: 6030 O 0 1.0 Murphy Undo the rest of 5956 SELL(10 coins - FOR*8) (93% sure) 6031 O 0 1.0 Murphy Undo the aftermath of 5956 SELL(10 coins - FOR*8) (93% sure) Here's the first

DIS: Re: BUS: PBA, milling

2008-12-17 Thread comex
On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 6:59 PM, The PerlNomic Partnership perlno...@nomictools.com wrote:

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: PBA, milling

2008-12-17 Thread comex
On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 7:16 PM, Elliott Hird penguinoftheg...@googlemail.com wrote: On 17 Dec 2008, at 23:59, The PerlNomic Partnership wrote:

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: nomination

2008-12-16 Thread comex
On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 10:49 AM, Elliott Hird penguinoftheg...@googlemail.com wrote: I never said permanent; I was under the assumption that the appeals processes were still going and it could summarily be finished off with a win and then repealed after them. What ehird said. We've just been

DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: Allow conversion of sentences

2008-12-15 Thread comex
On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 10:36 AM, Ed Murphy emurph...@socal.rr.com wrote: Proposal: Allow conversion of sentences (AI = 3, please) To be fair, CHOKEY for an Epsilon is sort of a slap on the wrist-- the only effect is that the ninny's caste can't usefully be increased. For me, the new

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: Distribution of proposals 6018-6026

2008-12-15 Thread comex
On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 1:25 PM, Elliott Hird penguinoftheg...@googlemail.com wrote: On 15 Dec 2008, at 18:00, Alex Smith wrote: (Assuming you can't somehow leverage your dictatorship to stop it passing in the first place...) of course we can. How do you suppose? It's been judged that

DIS: Re: BUS: nomination

2008-12-15 Thread comex
On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 1:36 PM, Geoffrey Spear geoffsp...@gmail.com wrote: I nominate myself as Rulekeepor. Sorry I'm behind; I'm very busy IRL.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: Allow conversion of sentences

2008-12-15 Thread comex
On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 12:28 PM, Elliott Hird penguinoftheg...@googlemail.com wrote: Well, I've been thrown to the wolves. Who wants to do the honor? You know you can avoid this by spending some coins.

DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: Undo the rest of 5956

2008-12-15 Thread comex
On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 6:11 PM, Ed Murphy emurph...@socal.rr.com wrote: Proposal: Undo the rest of 5956 Amend Rule 2143 (Official Reports and Duties) by replacing each instance of role with office. This omits Rule 2218.

DIS: Re: OFF: Distribution of proposals 6018-6026

2008-12-15 Thread comex
RFC: If Murphy submitted a long proposal titled Cleanup of Power=1.5 definitions that would cause a rule to contain the text {Murphy CAN cause this rule to amend itself by announcement}, that proposal would pass.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: Undo the rest of 5956

2008-12-15 Thread comex
On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 7:23 PM, Ed Murphy emurph...@socal.rr.com wrote: 2282 may still be affirmed on appeal. But yes, for completeness: What does CFJ 2282 have to do with Rule 2218?

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Deputy Conductor] Lead Sheet

2008-12-15 Thread comex
On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 9:00 PM, Ian Kelly ian.g.ke...@gmail.com wrote: With criminal charges on top of it, I'll probably just drop the whole thing and deregister. Just testing the new system :p

DIS: Re: BUS: Undo the aftermath, take three

2008-12-15 Thread comex
On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 9:48 PM, Ed Murphy emurph...@socal.rr.com wrote: If a rule other than 2218 defines the Winning Condition of Solitude, then repeal Rule 2218. Otherwise, amend it to read: Note that Rule 2218 cannot define Winning Conditions anyway, since its Power is only 1. (The

Re: DIS: Unbought votes are boring

2008-12-14 Thread comex
On Sun, Dec 14, 2008 at 10:34 AM, Ed Murphy emurph...@socal.rr.com wrote: Here's an idea to encourage more votes to be bought, will turn it over to the economic automation mavens for possible implementation: Create a Bayes-type partnership that, if a vote is put on sale within the first three

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2274 assigned to Elysion

2008-12-13 Thread comex
On Sat, Dec 13, 2008 at 5:15 PM, Joshua Boehme boehm...@msu.edu wrote: This judge sees no reason why the statement in question (I make Proposal X democratic) should be considered ambiguous when similar statements about other aspects of proposals and their decisions have not been considered

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: Distribution of proposals 6018-6026

2008-12-13 Thread comex
On Sun, Dec 14, 2008 at 12:41 AM, Bayes ba...@eso-std.org wrote: 6026 O 1 1.0 Murphy Cleanup of Power=1 definitions FOR*8 (98% sure) S'pose I should have left Bayes broken. :/

DIS: Re: BUS: Judgement in 2302

2008-12-12 Thread comex
On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 1:56 AM, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote: So, if the phrase is part of a contract, is it more like a Rule or a player's statement? It is in fact somewhere in between. In particular, while the text of a contract is judicable as a logical and legal construct,

DIS: Re: BUS: Six proposals

2008-12-12 Thread comex
On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 2:55 AM, Ed Murphy emurph...@socal.rr.com wrote: a) X is/are Y b) Y is/are known as X Any biological organism that is generally capable ... is a person might fall under this. Probably doesn't, but there are other situations where phrasing clearly

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: PBA, milling

2008-12-12 Thread comex
On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 4:46 AM, Alex Smith ais...@bham.ac.uk wrote: The script assumes that ehird's PBA report is up to date. That has proven an incorrect assumption recently, such that we'll have to do some actions by hand to get its random-crops-obtained-by-mistake count down and its coin

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Judgement in 2302

2008-12-12 Thread comex
On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 2:01 PM, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote: Basically, it's because I agree with your premise that I disagree with your conclusions. If contracts are primordial entities, then their interaction with agora is not as an intrinsic extension of Agoran Rules, but in

DIS: Re: BUS: Grr!

2008-12-12 Thread comex
On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 5:35 AM, Alex Smith ais...@bham.ac.uk wrote: With support from Elysion and Murphy, I send the following message on behalf of the judicial panel in CFJ 2276a: {{{ There is only one interpretation of rule 2126, 2156, 683 and 754 that does not lead to a contradiction,

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Six proposals

2008-12-12 Thread comex
On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 4:42 PM, Warrigal ihope12...@gmail.com wrote: Active would be X wins the game; passive would be the game is won [by X]. To win the game is an infinitive which has no subject and is therefore neither active nor passive. To win the game is an active infinitive. A passive

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