Re: DIS: All hail Rule 104

2014-02-08 Thread Fool
On 2014-02-08 4:31 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: On Sat, 8 Feb 2014, Alex Smith wrote: On Sat, 2014-02-08 at 10:58 -0800, Kerim Aydin wrote: On Sat, 8 Feb 2014, omd wrote: The same sentence that grants wins proceeds to state that a particular aspect of the gamestate (scores) is reset. I'd say that

Re: DIS: All hail Rule 104

2014-02-08 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Sat, 8 Feb 2014, Alex Smith wrote: > On Sat, 2014-02-08 at 10:58 -0800, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > On Sat, 8 Feb 2014, omd wrote: > > > The same sentence that grants wins proceeds to state that a particular > > > aspect of the gamestate (scores) is reset. I'd say that that strongly > > > implies

Re: DIS: All hail Rule 104

2014-02-08 Thread Sean Hunt
On Feb 8, 2014 1:43 PM, "omd" wrote: > > On Sat, Feb 8, 2014 at 11:33 AM, Alex Smith wrote: > > I think the remaining question is, does the entire gamestate reset when > > a game ends? I can see a plausible explanation for that happening even > > if Agora, as an entity, continues. (The argument i

Re: DIS: All hail Rule 104

2014-02-08 Thread Alex Smith
On Sat, 2014-02-08 at 10:58 -0800, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > On Sat, 8 Feb 2014, omd wrote: > > The same sentence that grants wins proceeds to state that a particular > > aspect of the gamestate (scores) is reset. I'd say that that strongly > > implies that the rest of the gamestate is not. > > Can

Re: DIS: All hail Rule 104

2014-02-08 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Sat, 8 Feb 2014, omd wrote: > The same sentence that grants wins proceeds to state that a particular > aspect of the gamestate (scores) is reset. I'd say that that strongly > implies that the rest of the gamestate is not. Can't get a more canonical version of "the exception proves the rule"

Re: DIS: All hail Rule 104

2014-02-08 Thread omd
On Sat, Feb 8, 2014 at 11:33 AM, Alex Smith wrote: > I think the remaining question is, does the entire gamestate reset when > a game ends? I can see a plausible explanation for that happening even > if Agora, as an entity, continues. (The argument in favour is that > usually happens between indiv

Re: DIS: All hail Rule 104

2014-02-08 Thread Alex Smith
On Sat, 2014-02-08 at 07:42 -0800, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > On Sat, 8 Feb 2014, Fool wrote: > > On 2014-02-07 7:13 AM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > It's actually settled law (supported by factual evidence) that the > > > First Game ended, a new Speaker took the position, and Agora continued. > > > (it's

Re: DIS: All hail Rule 104

2014-02-08 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Sat, 8 Feb 2014, Fool wrote: > On 2014-02-07 7:13 AM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > It's actually settled law (supported by factual evidence) that the > > First Game ended, a new Speaker took the position, and Agora continued. > > (it's documented in at least one CFJ; no database up right now so > >

Re: DIS: All hail Rule 104

2014-02-07 Thread Fool
On 2014-02-07 7:13 AM, Kerim Aydin wrote: It's actually settled law (supported by factual evidence) that the First Game ended, a new Speaker took the position, and Agora continued. (it's documented in at least one CFJ; no database up right now so don't remember which one). -G. Yes, previous tr

Re: DIS: All hail Rule 104

2014-02-07 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Fri, 7 Feb 2014, Jonatan Kilhamn wrote: > On 7 February 2014 05:43, Aaron Goldfein wrote: > > On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 10:58 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > >> > >> The existence and current interpretation of R104 directly > >> demonstrates, via a current Rule, that a "game" ended in the > >> past wh

Re: DIS: All hail Rule 104

2014-02-07 Thread Jonatan Kilhamn
On 7 February 2014 05:43, Aaron Goldfein wrote: > > > On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 10:58 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: >> >> >> >> The existence and current interpretation of R104 directly >> demonstrates, via a current Rule, that a "game" ended in the >> past while Agora continued. >> >> (And you thought we

Re: DIS: All hail Rule 104

2014-02-06 Thread Aaron Goldfein
On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 10:58 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > The existence and current interpretation of R104 directly > demonstrates, via a current Rule, that a "game" ended in the > past while Agora continued. > > (And you thought we just kept that around for fun). > Either that or Michael Norris

DIS: All hail Rule 104

2014-02-06 Thread Kerim Aydin
The existence and current interpretation of R104 directly demonstrates, via a current Rule, that a "game" ended in the past while Agora continued. (And you thought we just kept that around for fun).