DIS: Bounty

2007-05-17 Thread Michael Slone
I hereby place a bounty of one magic cookie and a (virtual) pat on the back to the first person to write a good proto or proposal which would repeal rules 1688, 1482, and 1030. Goodness of protos and proposals will be evaluated relative to my biases, of course. -- C. Maud Image (Michael Slone)

Re: DIS: Bounty

2007-05-17 Thread Zefram
Michael Slone wrote: repeal rules 1688, 1482, and 1030. Do you intend there to be no precedence mechanism at all? And what about supermajority voting? -zefram

Re: DIS: Bounty

2007-05-17 Thread Michael Slone
On 5/17/07, Zefram [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do you intend there to be no precedence mechanism at all? And what about supermajority voting? I don't intend that supermajority voting vanish. As for precedence, there is almost certainly a nice system out there that we haven't tried, since we've

Re: DIS: Bounty

2007-05-17 Thread Roger Hicks
You could always re-institute the Virus... BobTHJ On 5/17/07, Ed Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maud wrote: I hereby place a bounty of one magic cookie and a (virtual) pat on the back to the first person to write a good proto or proposal which would repeal rules 1688, 1482, and 1030.

Re: DIS: Bounty

2007-05-17 Thread Zefram
Ed Murphy wrote: e) A player may, with Agoran consent with a consent index of H/L, perform an action and cause a rule with Power L to take precedence over a rule with Power H with regard to that action. E must be otherwise permitted to perform that action,

DIS: Bounty

2007-05-17 Thread Kerim Aydin
Curse you, Maud. Now I am thinking of it. I shouldn't be. I've got two proto-proto entirely new systems lined up. HOWEVER: Is it possible to repeal R1482 with its silly protective clause: No change to the Ruleset can occur that would cause a Rule to stipulate any other means of

Re: DIS: Bounty

2007-05-17 Thread Zefram
Kerim Aydin wrote: The answer is, only if we create a rule with higher precedence. Not true. That paragraph doesn't prevent repeal of the rule at all. Also, if you want to change the precedence mechanism without repealing R1482, all you have to do is amend R1482 to delete that paragraph. that

Re: DIS: Bounty

2007-05-17 Thread Kerim Aydin
here's the first one, the more political one. The second one (later sometime) is more mathematical. Proto: On all our houses Repeal 1688, 1482, and 1030. [Note: order of things must be considered for this bootstrapping] Enact the following Rule, entitled All our houses House is a stuck

Re: DIS: Bounty

2007-05-17 Thread Ed Murphy
Zefram wrote: Ed Murphy wrote: e) A player may, with Agoran consent with a consent index of H/L, perform an action and cause a rule with Power L to take precedence over a rule with Power H with regard to that action. E must be otherwise permitted to perform that

Re: DIS: Bounty

2007-05-17 Thread Zefram
Ed Murphy wrote: Which is why allowing e.g. a Power=1 rule to temporarily trump a Power=3 rule would require = 3/4 support on a case-by-case basis. You'd also allow a Power=2 rule to trump a Power=3 rule with a 60% supermajority, where currently a 75% supermajority would be required. Pretty big