Re: DIS: Draft: Spending Fix

2017-10-14 Thread Ørjan Johansen
On Sat, 14 Oct 2017, Kerim Aydin wrote: So overall, I'm a bit concerned with the separate uses of "pay" and "spend" given that they now function differently and spend includes destruction. For example, if someone says "I pay 1 AP to " then it would technically fail, because "pay" is defined

Re: DIS: Draft: Spending Fix

2017-10-14 Thread Kerim Aydin
So overall, I'm a bit concerned with the separate uses of "pay" and "spend" given that they now function differently and spend includes destruction. For example, if someone says "I pay 1 AP to " then it would technically fail, because "pay" is defined as a transfer and AP can't be transferr

Re: DIS: Draft: Spending Fix

2017-10-14 Thread Aris Merchant
On Fri, Oct 13, 2017 at 7:07 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > On Fri, 13 Oct 2017, Aris Merchant wrote: >> I considered that. There is a significant advantage to this though, in >> that 1. people are likely to try to spend things that have to be >> destroyed and 2. this means that rules will almost ha

Re: DIS: Draft: Spending Fix

2017-10-13 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Fri, 13 Oct 2017, Aris Merchant wrote: > I considered that. There is a significant advantage to this though, in > that 1. people are likely to try to spend things that have to be > destroyed and 2. this means that rules will almost have the intended > effect. However, I agree that my current i

Re: DIS: Draft: Spending Fix

2017-10-13 Thread Aris Merchant
On Fri, Oct 13, 2017 at 6:08 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > Two points: > > - Make it a full mechanism, e.g. "to spend something, you announce what you're > trying to purchase and indicate that it has a cost [option, do you have to > specify > the exact cost or not]." Then we can get rid a lot of th

Re: DIS: Draft: Spending Fix

2017-10-13 Thread Kerim Aydin
> Amend Rule 2166, "Assets", by inserting the paragraph > > "To spend an asset is to pay or destroy it for the purpose of doing some > other > action or fulfilling an obligation; if the action would not be completed, > the > obligation would not be at least partially fulfilled, or more

Re: DIS: Draft: Spending Fix

2017-10-13 Thread Aris Merchant
On Fri, Oct 13, 2017 at 5:22 PM, Aris Merchant wrote: > Here's my draft of a fix to the spending definition. It defines > spending as being whichever of transferring or destroying is needed to > do an action, with a somewhat convoluted fallback (designed to attempt > to capture intent) if the enab

DIS: Draft: Spending Fix

2017-10-13 Thread Aris Merchant
Here's my draft of a fix to the spending definition. It defines spending as being whichever of transferring or destroying is needed to do an action, with a somewhat convoluted fallback (designed to attempt to capture intent) if the enabling entity just said spending. Since there's no point having t