Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Registration and Apology

2017-10-20 Thread Madeline
Another option could be to go all the way with this and remove the supply limit altogether, making shinies destructible and having costs based on how many are possessed by players, then rewards either fully constant or based on some kind of logarithmic function? (Having them tied linearly to ho

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Registration and Apology

2017-10-20 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Sat, 21 Oct 2017, Madeline wrote: > I intend to win the game with two days' notice, in accordance with Rule 7923. > (Does this really work before it's even a rule?) Yes, but it's not Rule 7923 (that's the proposal), saying it was "Rule 7923" instead of "as described in Proposal 7923" might m

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Registration and Apology

2017-10-20 Thread VJ Rada
I already have a proposal which ties the Supply Value to the number of players every month. Called (if I recall) "slightly more responsible Zimbabwean-style economics". On Sat, Oct 21, 2017 at 9:37 AM, ATMunn . wrote: > That's an interesting idea. I feel like this could be scammable though. The

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Registration and Apology

2017-10-20 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
If supporting this message is allowable, I do so. On 10/20/2017 08:24 PM, Aris Merchant wrote: > I intend to destroy the universe with notice. > > -Aris > > On Fri, Oct 20, 2017 at 5:22 PM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus > wrote: >> I intend t win the game with two days' notice, as described in

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Registration and Apology

2017-10-20 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Fri, 20 Oct 2017, Aris Merchant wrote: > I intend to destroy the universe with notice. https://faculty.washington.edu/kerim/nomic/cases/?2150

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Registration and Apology

2017-10-20 Thread ATMunn .
Okay, how did this go from "The shiny balance can not be negative because it is an asset, not a switch." to "Any Player CAN destroy the universe With Notice." On Fri, Oct 20, 2017 at 9:28 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > I submit the following Proposal, "Don't vote for this", AI-3, and > AP-pend it:

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Registration and Apology

2017-10-20 Thread Alexis Hunt
On Fri, 20 Oct 2017 at 21:53 Aris Merchant < thoughtsoflifeandligh...@gmail.com> wrote: > Actually, given that this makes things more interesting... I SH-CFJ (or > AP-CFJ if the action would otherwise fail due to lack of shinies) "If there > were currently a power 3.9 rule purpoting to allow any p

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Registration and Apology

2017-10-20 Thread VJ Rada
I would judge IRRELEVANT: situation appears to be too hypothetical and attenuated to be a useful clarification of the game state. On Sat, Oct 21, 2017 at 12:59 PM, Alexis Hunt wrote: > > > On Fri, 20 Oct 2017 at 21:53 Aris Merchant > wrote: >> >> Actually, given that this makes things more inte

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Registration and Apology

2017-10-20 Thread Alex Smith
On Sat, 2017-10-21 at 09:32 +1100, Madeline wrote: > I intend to win the game with two days' notice, in accordance with > Rule 7923. (Does this really work before it's even a rule?) Dependent action intents work "backwards". The intent itself doesn't do anything, but the resolution of the dependen

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Registration and Apology

2017-10-20 Thread Alex Smith
On Fri, 2017-10-20 at 18:28 -0700, Kerim Aydin wrote: > I submit the following Proposal, "Don't vote for this", AI-3, and  > AP-pend it: The created rule wouldn't actually work (for interesting reasons which are almost along the line of a scam). That said, that's not something I'd like to rely on.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Registration and Apology

2017-10-20 Thread Aris Merchant
I've requested that the judge consider what would happen in that rule's absence. -Aris On Oct 20, 2017 6:59 PM, "Alexis Hunt" wrote: > > > On Fri, 20 Oct 2017 at 21:53 Aris Merchant gmail.com> wrote: > >> Actually, given that this makes things more interesting... I SH-CFJ (or >> AP-CFJ if the a

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Registration and Apology

2017-10-20 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Sat, 21 Oct 2017, Alex Smith wrote: > On Fri, 2017-10-20 at 18:28 -0700, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > I submit the following Proposal, "Don't vote for this", AI-3, and  > > AP-pend it: > > The created rule wouldn't actually work (for interesting reasons which > are almost along the line of a scam).

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Registration and Apology

2017-10-20 Thread Alex Smith
On Fri, 2017-10-20 at 19:24 -0700, Kerim Aydin wrote: > On Sat, 21 Oct 2017, Alex Smith wrote: > > On Fri, 2017-10-20 at 18:28 -0700, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > I submit the following Proposal, "Don't vote for this", AI-3, and  > > > AP-pend it: > >  > > The created rule wouldn't actually work (for i

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Registration and Apology

2017-10-20 Thread VJ Rada
Is the safety-valve super-secret propitietery technology? On Sat, Oct 21, 2017 at 1:32 PM, Alex Smith wrote: > On Fri, 2017-10-20 at 19:24 -0700, Kerim Aydin wrote: >> On Sat, 21 Oct 2017, Alex Smith wrote: >> > On Fri, 2017-10-20 at 18:28 -0700, Kerim Aydin wrote: >> > > I submit the following P

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Registration and Apology

2017-10-20 Thread Aris Merchant
Three reasons that would be a bad judgment, which I would likely moot: 1. I'm paying for the CFJ, which means the judge will get paid for it. It wouldn't be very nice to take money and then assign an effectively null judgment. 2. The CFJ concerns a subject of deep game signifcance. If the rules d

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Registration and Apology

2017-10-20 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Fri, 20 Oct 2017, Aris Merchant wrote: > Three reasons that would be a bad judgment, which I would likely moot: > > 1. I'm paying for the CFJ, which means the judge will get paid for it. > It wouldn't be very nice to take money and then assign an effectively > null judgment. This is an inap

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Registration and Apology

2017-10-20 Thread Aris Merchant
On Fri, Oct 20, 2017 at 8:14 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > > On Fri, 20 Oct 2017, Aris Merchant wrote: >> Three reasons that would be a bad judgment, which I would likely moot: >> >> 1. I'm paying for the CFJ, which means the judge will get paid for it. >> It wouldn't be very nice to take money and

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Registration and Birthday

2019-02-13 Thread Kerim Aydin
Welcome, Falsifian! Good test of new rule - nice beginning! In general, when a rule says "a Player CAN [verb] with Agoran Consent", it means that e does whatever [verb] is using the Agoran Consent method; that is, the "actual" actions the player takes are following the R1728 procedure. Similar

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Registration and Birthday

2019-02-13 Thread James Cook
Thanks, G. When I was initially planning this, I thought I remembered Rule 478 being power=4 and having some strong wording to the effect that players can participate in the fora, and thought I could make a case that a lower-powered rule like 2125 can't limit a player's ability to do anything syno

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Registration and Birthday

2019-02-13 Thread Kerim Aydin
In terms of the common definition for "declare", it makes perfect sense. In fact I called a CFJ on a similar issue (substituting "state" for "declare") a couple weeks back, but I'm realizing it's not in the Gazette. D. Margaux, did the following CFJ get missed or am I just not finding the assi

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Registration and Birthday

2020-02-13 Thread sukil via agora-discussion
El 13/02/2020 a las 17:56, Timon Walshe-Grey via agora-discussion escribió: sukil wrote: Me too! Hi sukil, welcome to Agora! You sent this to the main Discussion Forum (agora-discussion@agoranomic.org), whereas you probably meant to send it to the main Public Forum (agora-busin...@agoranomic.

DIS: Re: BUS: Registration as a player

2017-07-29 Thread Alex Smith
On Sat, 2017-07-29 at 10:12 -0700, Ajay Kumar Raja wrote: > I would like to register as a player. Welcome! Just as a note, you normally have to be quite precise with your language when taking actions in Agora (registration is an exception, which is why this (probably) works). Saying that you'd li

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Registration, and soliloquy

2023-08-21 Thread Katherina Walshe-Grey via agora-discussion
On 21/08/2023 17:47, 4st nomic via agora-discussion wrote: > On Mon, Aug 21, 2023 at 7:31 AM Katherina Walshe-Grey via agora-business < > agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote: > >> (Also: Is the convention here not still to use Spivak e/em/eir pronouns >> for everyone? If not, mine are she/her. Th

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Registration, and soliloquy

2023-08-21 Thread 4st nomic via agora-discussion
On Mon, Aug 21, 2023 at 10:05 AM Katherina Walshe-Grey via agora-discussion wrote: > On 21/08/2023 17:47, 4st nomic via agora-discussion wrote: > > On Mon, Aug 21, 2023 at 7:31 AM Katherina Walshe-Grey via agora-business > < > > agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote: > > > >> (Also: Is the convent

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Registration, and soliloquy

2023-08-22 Thread Gaelan Steele via agora-discussion
> No bother :) Even if this isn't one of them, I'm sure culture has > changed in some ways since I was last here - I fully expect there to be > a bit of adjustment needed from me. Spivak is still very much the default. I (speaking for myself) am happy to use other pronouns if you (or anyone) wo

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Registration, and soliloquy

2023-08-23 Thread Katherina Walshe-Grey via agora-discussion
On 23/08/2023 03:22, Gaelan Steele via agora-discussion wrote: > >> No bother :) Even if this isn't one of them, I'm sure culture has >> changed in some ways since I was last here - I fully expect there to be >> a bit of adjustment needed from me. > > Spivak is still very much the default. I (spe

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: registration and CFJs

2007-01-10 Thread Taral
AWW! On 1/10/07, Michael Slone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 1/10/07, Taral <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I register again. :D You deregistered on 13 December, so rule 869 prohibits you from registering today. -- Michael Slone -- Taral <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "You can't prove anything." -- G

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: registration and CFJs

2007-01-10 Thread Zefram
Ian Kelly wrote: >other than to annoy the CotC. If e got annoyed by this, wouldn't e be violating 698/15(b)(3) "don't panic"? >By the way, no need to bar me: I deregistered in December. Oops, missed that. It's been a rapid catch-up for me. Now to find out why no one's sure whether Goethe is a

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: registration and CFJs

2007-01-10 Thread Zefram
I wrote: >why no one's sure whether Goethe is a Player... Ah, found it. It's trivial: game custom is that where part of a Rule makes no sense then the remainder of it is applied as far as possible. The CotC's posting of the Writ deregisters the Player, and the "instructing the Registrar" bit is n

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: registration and CFJs

2007-01-10 Thread Zefram
Kerim Aydin wrote: >But what about the utility of calling a CFJ with only one eligible >judge (of the caller's choosing)? I agree, nice one, Zefram! Heh. What I like is that there's a procedure to unlink the CFJs, which would resolve the problem, but you can't do it until a Judge has been assign

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: registration and CFJs

2007-01-10 Thread Zefram
Kerim Aydin wrote: > The paradox arose because ... >our judgments so they deferred to each other, thereby invalidating >themselves as judgments (circularly). That works regardless of the >validity of the original argument In a Platonist system this wouldn't be a problem. In the Plat

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: registration and CFJs

2007-01-10 Thread Taral
On 1/10/07, Zefram <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: What started the Great Repeals anyway? They've been monstrously more successful than any of the Chromatic Repeals ever were. We got bored. -- Taral <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "You can't prove anything." -- Gödel's Incompetence Theorem

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: registration and CFJs

2007-01-10 Thread Ed Murphy
Zefram wrote: What I like is that there's a procedure to unlink the CFJs, which would resolve the problem, but you can't do it until a Judge has been assigned. YAFI, YGI. Proto-Proposal: Pre-emptive Unlinking Amend Rule 2024 (Linked Statements) by appending, after this text: Linked C

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: registration and CFJs

2007-01-10 Thread Ed Murphy
Goethe wrote: ps. if you like the new rule 101, want to try to gut the judicial system... I ran out of steam on that one and we still need judicial reform (reform the mechanics to match R101 and the rest). Something along the lines of this outline? i. Every person has the right to CFJ

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: registration and CFJs

2007-01-10 Thread Manuel Lanctot
On 1/11/07, Zefram wrote: Ooh, yes please. Looks like the judicial system makes up a good half or so of the current ruleset. I came to the tentative conclusion that you'd decided to centre the whole game on legal process for the time being. Let's repeal the whole legal system and replace it

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: registration and CFJs

2007-01-11 Thread Zefram
Ed Murphy wrote: >YAFI, YGI. What does that expand to? > The Clerk of the Courts may, without objection, unlink one or > more of the linked CFJs from the others by announcement. If e > unlinks more than one as a set, then those CFJs remain linked > to each other. There are i

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: registration and CFJs

2007-01-11 Thread Ed Murphy
Zefram wrote: Ed Murphy wrote: YAFI, YGI. What does that expand to? "You asked for it, you got it". The Clerk of the Courts may, without objection, unlink one or more of the linked CFJs from the others by announcement. If e unlinks more than one as a set, then those CFJs

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: registration and CFJs

2007-01-11 Thread Michael Slone
On 1/11/07, Benjamin Schultz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Welcome to the game, Zefram! Heck of a way to jump right in. Make yourself at home. Technically, this ought to be s#Welcome#Welcome back# ... After all, Zefram was a Fugitive from Justice for over nine years. -- Michael Slone

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: registration and CFJs

2007-01-11 Thread Benjamin Schultz
On Jan 11, 2007, at 9:01 PM, Michael Slone wrote: On 1/11/07, Benjamin Schultz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Welcome to the game, Zefram! Heck of a way to jump right in. Make yourself at home. Technically, this ought to be s#Welcome#Welcome back# ... After all, Zefram was a Fugitive from J

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: registration and CFJs

2007-01-12 Thread Zefram
Michael Slone wrote: >Zefram was a Fugitive from Justice for over nine years. That's funny, I don't recall having any Blots when I deregistered. Now that Blots and Stain are no longer defined by the Rules, do the references to them in Rule 1437 mean that they still exist with their previous seman

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: registration and CFJs

2007-01-29 Thread Benjamin Schultz
On Jan 10, 2007, at 2:10 PM, Michael Slone wrote: On 1/10/07, Taral <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I register again. :D You deregistered on 13 December, so rule 869 prohibits you from registering today. -- Michael Slone But you can try again now. - Benjamin Schultz KE3OM

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Registration as a player

2017-07-29 Thread Owen Jacobson
On Sat, 2017-07-29 at 10:12 -0700, Ajay Kumar Raja wrote: > I would like to register as a player. Welcome to Agora! On Jul 29, 2017, at 1:17 PM, Alex Smith wrote: > Welcome! > > Just as a note, you normally have to be quite precise with your > language when taking actions in Agora (registrati

DIS: Re: BUS: registration, Timing Order directed at Rulekeepor

2007-03-11 Thread Benjamin Schultz
On Mar 7, 2007, at 1:33 PM, Michael Slone wrote: I register. I issue a Timing Order to H. Rulekeepor Michael to publish the Short Logical Ruleset within a fortnight. Unfortunately, I haven't been keeping up with proposals too well, so I don't know if this mechanism is still in the rules. --

DIS: Re: BUS: Registration CFJs were never my favourite tradition

2015-10-09 Thread Benjamin Schultz
On Thu, Oct 8, 2015 at 8:52 AM, Charles Walker wrote: > I register, with nickname 'Bede'. > > I award myself a White Ribbon. > > - Bede > Welcome, Bede! I dance the dance of welcome. OscarMeyr

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