Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Round Robin CFJs

2018-10-16 Thread D. Margaux
Oh I see. If anything it’s the opposite—there’s a theory under which you three might win, and not me and G. On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 3:36 AM Timon Walshe-Grey wrote: > I meant the way there are separate CFJs ruling on "Trigon, twg, D. > Margaux, G., and L" and "Trigon, twg, and L". It feels like y

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Round Robin CFJs

2018-10-16 Thread Timon Walshe-Grey
I meant the way there are separate CFJs ruling on "Trigon, twg, D. Margaux, G., and L" and "Trigon, twg, and L". It feels like you're going to pull out some sort of technicality that means only you and G. won. :P (I do realise they are semantically different too, I just found it amusing) -twg

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Round Robin CFJs

2018-10-15 Thread D. Margaux
No scam in this one. This was the culmination of the discussion thread about what CFJs were needed after the Round Robin confusion. I suggested one judge because the issues are very intermingled. (Can’t be me because I called the CFJs.) On Mon, Oct 15, 2018 at 5:10 PM Timon Walshe-Grey wrote: >

DIS: Re: BUS: Round Robin CFJs

2018-10-15 Thread Timon Walshe-Grey
Hmm. For some reason this feels like a build-up to a scam. Oh well, let's see what happens. -twg ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Monday, October 15, 2018 7:24 PM, D Margaux wrote: > I CFJ the following three statements, and suggest to the Arbitor that they > should probably be assigned t

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Round robin finishing up

2018-10-09 Thread ATMunn
Certainly an interesting idea. Unfortunately, I joined too late to participate in the voting. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ On 10/9/2018 6:18 PM, D. Margaux wrote: The proposals were constructed such that each player was on exactly two slates. So, ATM would have won if only A or C won; if both A and C won; or if C

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Round robin finishing up

2018-10-09 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Tue, 9 Oct 2018, Reuben Staley wrote: > On 10/9/2018 4:20 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > On Tue, 9 Oct 2018, ais...@alumni.bham.ac.uk wrote: > > > On Tue, 2018-10-09 at 16:08 -0600, Reuben Staley wrote: > > > > Since you are Slate A and Slate C, you either can't win the game by > > > > announceme

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Round robin finishing up

2018-10-09 Thread Reuben Staley
On 10/9/2018 4:20 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: On Tue, 9 Oct 2018, ais...@alumni.bham.ac.uk wrote: On Tue, 2018-10-09 at 16:08 -0600, Reuben Staley wrote: Since you are Slate A and Slate C, you either can't win the game by announcement because Slate B players can as the former, or you can't win the

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Round robin finishing up

2018-10-09 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Tue, 9 Oct 2018, ais...@alumni.bham.ac.uk wrote: > On Tue, 2018-10-09 at 16:08 -0600, Reuben Staley wrote: > > Since you are Slate A and Slate C, you either can't win the game by > > announcement because Slate B players can as the former, or you can't win > > the game by announcement becaus

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Round robin finishing up

2018-10-09 Thread D. Margaux
The proposals were constructed such that each player was on exactly two slates. So, ATM would have won if only A or C won; if both A and C won; or if C and B won, but not A. Other permutations would obtain for other players. The hope was that it would lead to some fun strategic voting behavior. At

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Round robin finishing up

2018-10-09 Thread ais...@alumni.bham.ac.uk
On Tue, 2018-10-09 at 16:08 -0600, Reuben Staley wrote: > Since you are Slate A and Slate C, you either can't win the game by > announcement because Slate B players can as the former, or you can't win > the game by announcement because there is no mechanism for the latter to > do so. Doesn't th

DIS: Re: BUS: Round robin finishing up

2018-10-09 Thread Reuben Staley
Relevant ruletext: Rule 2580/2 (Power=1) Round Robin The "Effective Date" is the Agoran day that is 8 days after the Agoran day on which this Rule was enacted. This Rule is automatically repealed at 00:01 UTC on the Agoran day after the Effective Date. The Slate A

DIS: Re: BUS: Round robin finishing up

2018-10-09 Thread Reuben Staley
If this is how we're going to do it... I win the game. I also object to Cuddle's intent to declare apathy. On Tue, Oct 9, 2018, 04:48 Cuddle Beam wrote: > I win the game too. > I intend to declare victory by apathy, with its set of players being just > > myself > > > On Tue, Oct 9, 2018 at 8:0

DIS: Re: BUS: Round robin finishing up

2018-10-09 Thread D Margaux
CB: if you want to win by apathy, then you’d better decide CFJ 3652 before I get around to blotting you for the late decision. :-P > On Oct 9, 2018, at 6:47 AM, Cuddle Beam wrote: > > I win the game too. > I intend to declare victory by apathy, with its set of players being just > > myself >

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Round Robin

2018-09-20 Thread D Margaux
Good point. Thank you for catching that. I'll modify the proposal so that the "Effective Date" is defined as "the Agoran day that is 8 days after the day on which this Rule is enacted." On Thu, Sep 20, 2018 at 10:42 AM Alex Smith wrote: > On Thu, 2018-09-20 at 10:40 -0400, D Margaux wrote: >

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Round Robin

2018-09-20 Thread Alex Smith
On Thu, 2018-09-20 at 10:40 -0400, D Margaux wrote: > Great idea. How about these protoproposals? You need a week delay to prevent Assessor scams. (Nothing forces the Assessor to resolve proposals all at once, or in order.) -- ais523

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Round Robin

2018-09-20 Thread D Margaux
Great idea. How about these protoproposals? I think the idea works better if players are each assigned to two slates. It increases the odds that a proposal passes, and creates some interesting dynamics for people to think through. I assigned players randomly to the slates below. // Title: Slate

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Round Robin

2018-09-19 Thread Aris Merchant
Try creating actual rules. They’re the standard mechanism for delayed effect, and can repeal themselves under whatever circumstances you’d like. -Aris On Wed, Sep 19, 2018 at 3:41 PM D Margaux wrote: > Hmm. I’ll think about how to re-word the proposals. In the meantime, I > withdraw them so tha

DIS: Re: BUS: Round Robin

2018-09-19 Thread Kerim Aydin
Cool. I highly support a 3-way proposal composition in this form if the wording can be figured out. But I don't think this version works, because the proposals have to be resolved (by the Assessor) sequentially not simultaneously, and conditionals can't be resolved based on future conditions (