Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 1892 assigned to Goethe

2008-02-03 Thread Ian Kelly
On Feb 2, 2008 10:46 PM, Kerim Aydin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If none of the clauses have precedence, the status of X may be > UNDETERMINED (a self-contradictory loop). This outcome would more properly be UNDECIDABLE. I think that you also should address comex's claim, i.e. that R1742 defines

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 1892 assigned to Goethe

2008-02-03 Thread Zefram
Kerim Aydin wrote: >In the absence of any explicit guidance in the contract, I rely on >the game custom (and method for Rules) of using numerical precedence >within the body of the contract, and find that Clause 1 has precedence >over Clauses 2-3. I'm dubious about this. No doubt it would be p

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 1892 assigned to Goethe

2008-02-02 Thread Ben Caplan
On Saturday 02 February 2008 10:33 Josiah Worcester wrote: > I dunno; maybe in this case, the ordinary-language definition > supplements the rule's definition, since the rule's definition *does* > seem to be merely attempting to formalise the ordinary-language > definition. . . No. R754(3)-(4) cle

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 1892 assigned to Goethe

2008-02-02 Thread Kerim Aydin
Proto 2, substantially longer, addressing woggle's (and others') comments. Thoughts? Arguments: This "contract" contains TWO blatant self-contradictions. The FIRST CONTRADICTION is in the first four words: "1. This contract is non-binding..." A "non-binding contract" is a contradiction in l

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 1892 assigned to Goethe

2008-02-02 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Sat, 2 Feb 2008, Charles Reiss wrote: > I don't think relying on an ordinary-language definition of contract is > warranted because R1742 seems to define it. I think you should also examine > the possiblity that the X agreement is a contract but is binding (in spite of > its text). The rules

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 1892 assigned to Goethe

2008-02-02 Thread Josiah Worcester
On 23:10 Sat 02 Feb , Charles Reiss wrote: > On Saturday 02 February 2008 22:27:05 Kerim Aydin wrote: > > >comex's non-binding agreement 'X' is a contract. > > > > Proto-judgement: FALSE. a "non-binding contract" is a contradiction > > in legal terms, and a meaningless semantic construct.

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 1892 assigned to Goethe

2008-02-02 Thread Charles Reiss
On Saturday 02 February 2008 22:27:05 Kerim Aydin wrote: > >comex's non-binding agreement 'X' is a contract. > > Proto-judgement: FALSE. a "non-binding contract" is a contradiction > in legal terms, and a meaningless semantic construct. R1742, and R2169, > both explicitly and explicitly link

DIS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 1892 assigned to Goethe

2008-02-02 Thread Kerim Aydin
>comex's non-binding agreement 'X' is a contract. Proto-judgement: FALSE. a "non-binding contract" is a contradiction in legal terms, and a meaningless semantic construct. R1742, and R2169, both explicitly and explicitly link the concept of "contract" with the concept of it being bindin